# JerseyDiamond, you feckless shrew **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 3, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197 "2003-04-03T14:33:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/161 "2003-04-04T02:09:17Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh, stop playing the martyr, you big nell! Oi! Speaking as a nelly boi, let me say I don’t appreciate this comparison. **Joe\_Cool** could _never_ make it as a femmeboi. He hasn’t the wit nor the self-respect. _tosses boa over shoulder, flounces back out again to bring more tea to **Eve** , who is more of a lady than that pseudochristian harridan **Jersey** could ever be_ ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/162 "2003-04-04T02:09:48Z")
My point to you, gobear, is that given the way you talk to people, and the way you offer half-ass insincere apologies, you have absolutely no moral force behind your demands of who is owed an apology. When you right the wrongs you have committed against Jerseydiamond, then I might care a whit about your opinions regarding who has been wronged. Until then, you’re just making yourself look stupid. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/163 "2003-04-04T02:16:11Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\*How exactly did Jerseydiamond cause trouble? She answered a simple question with the truth. How is that cruel? > > I’m terribly sorry, but Eve looks like what she is: A man trying to look like a woman. If that’s too hard to deal with, it’s not my problem or my wife’s. Anyway, she shouldn’t feel bad. Cosmetic surgery performed 24 years ago can’t possibly be held to the same standards of quality we hold today. > \*\* I…I… I’m almost at a complete loss for words on this. I sort of thought some of the posters were going over the top with their flaming characterizations of you and your wife, but my God, that you and your bride could have gotten to this point in your lives and _this_ retarded nonsense is the degree of sophistication that you have achieved as an adult about the nature of people, and relationships? It’s… just frightening. Beyond this is the odd irony that based on the dopefest party pics I saw awhile ago, you and your wife are quite good looking people, and one would think that those so blessed by nature would have some small degree of compassion for those that have to struggle all their lives to come to terms with what nature has endowed them with. Remember this biblical narrative?l > [@](#): > > David has committed adultery and murder, and the prophet Nathan comes to him and tells him the story of a rich man who had many flocks and herds and a poor man who had but one little lamb, which he cherished as a member of his family, fed from his table and laid on his breast at night. A guest came to the rich man and instead of slaughtering one of his many lambs to feed the wayfarer he took the poor man’s lamb and slaughtered it. The king’s anger flashes forth against the rich man, " As the Lord lives, the man who has done this deserves to die; and he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing and because he had no pity;" and the prophet says, “…You are the man.” You _are_ the man Joe Cool. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/164 "2003-04-04T02:16:30Z")
Fine, **Joe\_Cool** - I have never even interacted with you before this thread, and I’m saying you owe **Eve** an apology. I’m saying **Eve** has been wronged by both you and **Jersey\_Diamond**. Care to comment, or am I making myself look stupid too?? > [@](#): > > given the way you talk to people, and the way you offer half-ass insincere apologies Just when I think I can’t possibly be more stunned by the crap that you spit out. What a fucking piece of work you are. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/165 "2003-04-04T02:17:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by matt\_mcl \* > \*\*Oi! Speaking as a nelly boi, let me say I don’t appreciate this comparison. > > **Joe\_Cool** could _never_ make it as a femmeboi. He hasn’t the wit nor the self-respect. > > _tosses boa over shoulder, flounces back out again to bring more tea to **Eve** , who is more of a lady than that pseudochristian harridan **Jersey** could ever be_ \*\* Shoot, you’re right, **Matt**. I loves my femmebois and I am definitely sorry for associating the likes of **Joe** with them. Actually, a good femmeboi retort to **Joe** would be a quote from Antonio Fargas’s drag queen charcter in thr 1976 film _Car Wash_: “I am more man than you’ll ever be and more woman than you’ll ever get!” (Three big snaps and a ton of shoulder! ) > [@](#): > > My point to you, gobear, is that given the way you talk to people, and the way you offer half-ass insincere apologies, you have absolutely no moral force behind your demands of who is owed an apology. When you right the wrongs you have committed against Jerseydiamond, then I might care a whit about your opinions regarding who has been wronged A) What wrong have I done **JD**? B)What has that got to do with your treatment of **Eve**? C) It might have escaped your notice, but I’m not the only one scolding you. Still, if it makes you feel good to focus on side issues so you can avoid owning up to your comments. . . . ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/166 "2003-04-04T02:18:31Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*Even if that IS true, **Joe** , I can’t believe you don’t see how mentioning that is in EXTREMELY poor taste. > :rolleyes: \*\* Yes it is in poor taste. This entire thread is in poor taste. I’m just waiting now for you to post something to the effect of “AHA! You cursed and said mean things back to us after we called your wife a cunt! You’re no Christian! We provoked your anger and you responded with it!” Hypocrites. Hey Ace, I think they’re using your _gobear_ script again. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/167 "2003-04-04T02:19:42Z")
So, you want me to appologize for thinking Eve looks masculine? Ok, here I go. :rolleyes: I didn’t insult Eve; I was asked a question and I made an observation. I don’t give a rats ass if you, Eve, or frosty the snow man likes it. To damn bad. Insults are what you guys have been doing to me, not what my observation was about Eve. Anyhow, I think Eve will live, whatayathink? I seem to be doing ok, despite all this venom. The only difference is I don’t throw the back of my hand on my head and say poor me, feel sorry for me all who are _enlightened_. I need tea! You people are ridiculous and dumb. get over yourselves. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/168 "2003-04-04T02:21:14Z")
> [@](#): > > the way you offer half-ass insincere apologies **Gobear** has issued me a number of apologies in his time, none of which I could characterized as half-assed. Why? Because I was the wronged party. In this instance, you two are not the wronged party. You are the ones who wronged **Eve.** ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/169 "2003-04-04T02:23:15Z")
> [@](#): > > Yes it is in poor taste. This entire thread is in poor taste. I’m just waiting now for you to post something to the effect of “AHA! You cursed and said mean things back to us after we called your wife a cunt! You’re no Christian! We provoked your anger and you responded with it!” ONE person used the C word (and FTR it wasn’t me). And not, we didn;t procoke your anger, we didn’t start this. All **JD** had to do was the one thing you two can’t do–post in the GD thread an apology for being cruel. If **Jd** had done that, this thread would not exist. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/170 "2003-04-04T02:24:47Z")
For the record, the last post under my name was by Jerseydiamond. matt\_mcl, get your facts straight. If anybody has wronged Eve, it was me. Jerseydiamond did nothing but respond politely to a direct question regarding how she thought of Eve. She was asked her opinion, and she answered. And predictably, that prompted a 4 (soon to be 10, I’m sure :rolleyes: ) page hate-fest, filled with you kind, loving souls spewing the most vile shit I’ve ever read. ---
**Author:** ![Joe\_Cool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ecb155/32.png) [@Joe\_Cool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joe_Cool)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/171 "2003-04-04T02:28:33Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*ONE person used the C word (and FTR it wasn’t me). And not, we didn;t procoke your anger, we didn’t start this. All **JD** had to do was the one thing you two can’t do–post in the GD thread an apology for being cruel. If **Jd** had done that, this thread would not exist. \*\* Enough lies, gobear. You know as well as I do that this type of thread does not in any way depend upon truth. (need an example? See the “filthy hypocrites” thread, where we were insulted for ten pages for having previously been married, when nothing could possibly be further from the truth) ---
**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/172 "2003-04-04T02:28:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\*For the record, the last post under my name was by Jerseydiamond. \*\* _snort_ Good call, Jar. ---
**Author:** ![JerseyDiamond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@JerseyDiamond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerseyDiamond)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/173 "2003-04-04T02:29:52Z")
Joe, I am using your laptop. I did it by accident, but it’s all good, it gives them something to talk about. They are big on predictions, and if I didn’t, their lives would be that much more boring. ---
**Author:** ![JerseyDiamond](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/8491ac/32.png) [@JerseyDiamond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JerseyDiamond)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/174 "2003-04-04T02:31:01Z")
see! they get excited easily 😃 like puppies ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/175 "2003-04-04T02:32:23Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > \*\*Pssst… gobear? She had that part removed. \*\* You’re despicable. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/176 "2003-04-04T02:33:23Z")
> [@](#): > > And predictably, that prompted a 4 (soon to be 10, I’m sure ) page hate-fest, filled with you kind, loving souls spewing the most vile shit I’ve ever read. Didn’t know it was possible to be on one’s ignore list… ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/177 "2003-04-04T02:35:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Insults are what you guys have been doing to me, not what my observation was about Eve. I’m going to have to disagree with you. This thread has been filled with _observations_ about you two. An insult is what you said about Eve. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Diane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2acd7d/32.png) [@Diane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diane)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/178 "2003-04-04T02:35:17Z")
J\_C, I could give a shit that the two of you whispered your opinion of Eve to each other at a Dopefest (that still floors me you have the balls to attend one after your actions on the SDMB). Everyone once in a while I too will point someone out and whisper an opinion that might not be kind. HOWEVER, it takes a specially brand of tackiness to come right out and say to someone “We were talking cruely behind your back and this is what we said.” To everyone else - If you have to convince someone to make an apology it obviously won’t be sincere. J\_C and JD have already shown themselves to be hateful scum and we would be fooling ourselves to think that they are capable of showing some sense of human decency. They have no sympathy or compassion for someone they have hurt. The pigs should just be left to wallow in their own shit. They REALLY showed their ugly faces at a Dopefest? Nervy. ---
**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/179 "2003-04-04T02:35:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > I didn’t insult Eve I see: > [@](#): > > Pssst… gobear? She had \. Next: > [@](#): > > I was asked a question and I made an observation. I don’t give a rats ass if you, Eve, or frosty the snow man likes it. To damn bad. I see: > [@](#): > > Ok, this was totally uncalled for, cruel, and inappropriate, and I apologize. I don’t suppose a moderator would be willing to delete the post or edit out the offensive portion? > > Please? It’s like “find the mistakes” from Highlights magazine. You remember that one, right? You’ll find one on your coffee table, with all the “Galant” panels scratched out. > [@](#): > > The only difference is I don’t throw the back of my hand on my head and say poor me, feel sorry for me all who are enlightened. I need tea! Oh, there’s a few more differences than that. Some that come to mind are class, grace, tact, etc. Nice bonus insult there, BTW. > [@](#): > > You people are ridiculous and dumb. get over yourselves. ::stunned silence:: ---
**Author:** ![Garfield226](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Garfield226](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Garfield226)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2003, 2:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197/180 "2003-04-04T02:44:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Joe\_Cool \* > **I didn’t insult Eve; I was asked a question and I made an observation. I don’t give a rats ass if you, Eve, or frosty the snow man likes it. To damn bad.** The word you’re thinking of is “too.” Now, I’ve never, to my knowledge, interacted with you or your wife before. Therefore, if I am to offend or spew hateful things to you, I’ll either do it in this post or I won’t have done it. I think you hurt a person who I consider to be intelligent and talented. It actually doesn’t matter what I think of her, you HURT a person. While it may be true, and I certainly think it is, that you have been attacked by other posters in here, it still stands that you HURT A PERSON. Love and compassion are two very important things in the Christian religion. I know, I am one. Because you don’t agree with someone’s lifestyle or the way they look is no reason nor does it justify hurting them. I know that **Eve** isn’t perfect. Neither am I. Neither are you. I refuse to spew hatred towards you, because that’s not how my religion, how _your_ professed religion taught me to act. Instead, I ask you to consider that you HURT a person, someone who had done you no wrong. Please do the right thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jerseydiamond-you-feckless-shrew/166197.md?page=10)