# Jesse Helms is dead! Let's dance on his grave. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 4, 2008, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299 "2008-07-04T15:31:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/101 "2008-07-05T04:45:17Z")
[QUOTE=AskNott] I can’t say enough good things about Jesse Helms. [/QUOTE] Looks to me like you just did. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Ducktail](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/43a26b/32.png) [@Ducktail](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ducktail)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/102 "2008-07-05T05:16:12Z")
Hmm…Google ads seem to be hawking Marilyn Manson merchandise. 😕 ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 5:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/103 "2008-07-05T05:28:20Z")
I see Rush Limbaugh shite being advertised. And it is classless to celebrate the death of someone like Jesse Helms, as much of a racist he may have been…he was an unchanging product of his times and era, an unflinching Southerner, a racist…but an elected official. He deserves a grudging respect for his tenure for that, if nothing else. Same goes for Ted Kennedy, whom I loathe as much as Sen Helms. I do find it interesting that this thread is so active with all the “Hell yeah” whooptidy-doos about Sen Helms death and a concurrent thread mocking this one about Ted kennedy was closed by a paranoid moderator. _Ce la vie_. ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/104 "2008-07-05T05:32:04Z")
Despite his flaws, Jesse Helms was consistent. In an era where politicians tailor their sound bites to suit the audience du jour, he was not part of that activity. I have more respect for a politician with whom I can disagree now, next week, and next year, than one who flip flops attempting to say the thing which will garner my vote. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/105 "2008-07-05T05:41:07Z")
> [@](#): > > …I do find it interesting that this thread is so active with all the “Hell yeah” whooptidy-doos about Sen Helms death and a concurrent thread mocking this one about Ted kennedy was closed by a paranoid moderator… We lefties crush all dissent beneath our jackboots. You should get some jackboots. Birkenstock has 'em. ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/106 "2008-07-05T05:47:01Z")
I especially like the ones with the leftie motto, “Do as I say, not as I do.” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 5:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/107 "2008-07-05T05:53:52Z")
[QUOTE=Starving Artist] I especially like the ones with the leftie motto, “Do as I say, not as I do.” [/QUOTE] You and Rush Limbaugh both! And Larry Craig. Daniel ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/108 "2008-07-05T06:08:31Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] You do realize that says a helluva lot more about you as a person, and nothing about the subject of your ire, right? [/QUOTE] **samclem’s** post says about him only that he hates persons he perceives as active bigoted racist assholes, which is not an indefensible attitude, nor, nowadays, a remarkable one. As for whether Helms actually **was** that – well, he didn’t hardly try to hide it, did he? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/109 "2008-07-05T06:12:03Z")
[QUOTE=Carol Stream] Mama taught me not to HATE anyone. [/QUOTE] You lie. She didn’t. She might well have **tried.** ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 6:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/110 "2008-07-05T06:13:59Z")
_Jesse Helms Better start shakin’ Today’s pig Tomorrows bacon_ - Burma Shave ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/111 "2008-07-05T08:01:01Z")
[QUOTE=FoieGrasIsEvil] And it is classless to celebrate the death of someone like Jesse Helms, as much of a racist he may have been…he was an unchanging product of his times and era, an unflinching Southerner, a racist…but an elected official. [/QUOTE] So ? Hitler was elected, and people on occasion have expressed hostile feeling towards him. An elected evil bastard is still an evil bastard. [QUOTE=danceswithcats] Despite his flaws, Jesse Helms was consistent. In an era where politicians tailor their sound bites to suit the audience du jour, he was not part of that activity. I have more respect for a politician with whom I can disagree now, next week, and next year, than one who flip flops attempting to say the thing which will garner my vote. [/QUOTE] I prefer a scummy, amoral panderer to someone who is consistently evil. Consistency isn’t a virtue; it’s just consistent. ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/112 "2008-07-05T08:17:05Z")
Just don’t close this thread, mods…I’m working on something that you’ll all like…just a little while longer, and I’ll post a link to it… ---
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/113 "2008-07-05T08:59:02Z")
OK, in the spirit of this thread, I humbly submit…[this.](https://oncourse.iu.edu/access/content/user/akentisa/Filemanager_Public_Files/dancing%20copy.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/114 "2008-07-05T12:07:33Z")
[QUOTE=danceswithcats] Despite his flaws, Jesse Helms was consistent. In an era where politicians tailor their sound bites to suit the audience du jour, he was not part of that activity. I have more respect for a politician with whom I can disagree now, next week, and next year, than one who flip flops attempting to say the thing which will garner my vote. [/QUOTE] When I lived in Charlotte, I was surprised when my landlord, who was gay, began praising Jesse Helms during a conversation that somehow drifted in that direction. I asked him how he could possibly like someone who couldn’t give less of a rat’s ass about him. “But he does care about me,” my landlord said, and proceeded to tell me about how difficult it had been for him, an anesthesiologist, to get to the scene of an accident when he was needed. It turned out that he had written a letter to Helms describing his plight, whereupon he got not only a personal response, but legislation in the state assembly a couple months later that began with a call from Helms’ office, authorizing anesthesiologists to use the same sort of light-and-siren attachments that were being used by other rescue personnel. “You know,” my landlord said, “gay is not the only thing I am.” I think it was the first time that concept really hit home with me. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/115 "2008-07-05T12:16:02Z")
[QUOTE=Argent Towers] OK, in the spirit of this thread, I humbly submit…[this.](https://oncourse.iu.edu/access/content/user/akentisa/Filemanager_Public_Files/dancing%20copy.jpg) [/QUOTE] Can you do this with one of those “[Where the Hell is Matt](http://www.wherethehellismatt.com/videos.shtml)” dance videos? All that needs doing is inserting that gavestone into the corner of a clip. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/116 "2008-07-05T13:10:39Z")
[This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=474331) gets locked after eight posts and garners the OP a warning. This goes on for three pages. How surprising. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/117 "2008-07-05T13:35:22Z")
Well, when Teddy _dies_, you bet that thread will stick around. Right now, it’s ‘parody’ by Mr. “Shut the fuck up, you fucking troll.” It’s more the latter that got it closed, than the subject. Twasn’t tasteless, just designed to rile people. You got a brain, Shodan. Use it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 1:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/118 "2008-07-05T13:35:38Z")
[QUOTE=Shodan] [This](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=474331) gets locked after eight posts and garners the OP a warning. This goes on for three pages. How surprising. [/QUOTE] Watch it, Bub. We don’t cotton to your kind 'round these parts. ---
**Author:** ![Cluricaun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/bb73d2/32.png) [@Cluricaun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cluricaun)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/119 "2008-07-05T15:02:22Z")
[QUOTE=E-Sabbath] Mr. “Shut the fuck up, you fucking troll.” [/QUOTE] Oh, that’s catching on is it? \*\*Cervaise \*\* will be pleased. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2008, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299/120 "2008-07-05T18:18:41Z")
What’s that court case where one famously “refers to the answer in the matter of” whatever, which basically tells the guy to go to hell? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-helms-is-dead-lets-dance-on-his-grave/455299.md?page=7)