# Jesse the Governor Ventura ,911 and conspiracies \[Conspiracy Theory show\] **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 14, 2009, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249 "2009-12-14T18:59:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Raygun99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Raygun99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Raygun99)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/21 "2009-12-14T23:28:54Z")
> [@Merijeek](#): > > Hell yes! The man knows every trick on the planet when it comes to saving money. We’d definitely get a nice stew on. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/22 "2009-12-14T23:32:19Z")
It’s the chemtrails. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/23 "2009-12-14T23:37:33Z")
> [@Lute Skywatcher](#): > > Maybe he doesn’t agree with the crap spewing from his mouth. He does. He’s a first-class nutcake. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/24 "2009-12-14T23:45:49Z")
Merged **gonzomax** ’s Great Debates thread with **Earl Snake-Hips Tucker** ’s thread in Cafe Society. ---
**Author:** ![handsomeharry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9c0ed/32.png) [@handsomeharry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/handsomeharry)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/25 "2009-12-15T01:05:05Z")
I like Jesse, and I like conspiracy theories, but I don’t think he’s doing too great a job. Isn’t the HAARP thing something like 15 year old news? Also, he didn’t really even prove anything, or even anything more than we heard 15 years ago. Not terrible, tho. I’ll keep watching it. hh ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/26 "2009-12-15T01:12:37Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > He does. He’s a first-class nutcake. Not all (or many) theorists are nutcakes. I’ve read a good book which spoke of the killing of Malcolm X and James Earl Ray, and sometimes there really is a conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/27 "2009-12-15T01:20:34Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Should Carl Weathers, the black guy from _Predator_, seek political office? He doesn’t need to. President Obama has spoken repeatedly about Weatherizing millions of American homes. I for one welcome our new Predator Overlord. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/28 "2009-12-15T01:33:24Z")
> [@BigBertha](#): > > Not all (or many) theorists are nutcakes. I’ve read a good book which spoke of the killing of Malcolm X and James Earl Ray, and sometimes there really is a conspiracy. And very nearly always the conspiracy is exposed. What there almost never is, is a top-secret government/corporate conspiracy for which no one ever finds solid evidence. And yes, many, almost certainly most conspiracy theorists are nutcakes. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/29 "2009-12-15T03:39:44Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Should Carl Weathers, the black guy from _Predator_, seek political office? He was also in Rocky, if you remember. He also knows how to get a stew going from leftovers and that refills at Burger King are totally free. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/30 "2009-12-15T04:52:06Z")
I suppose we all know that the Tuskeegee Experiment went on for over 40 years without coming out. That involved a lot of people and yet nobody blabbed. The Gulf of Tonken lies lasted for decades. The fact that we were involved in assassinating leaders of foreign lands is not acknowledged by many. There is plenty of precedent that our country lies and covers up. So to say that it is impossible to pull one off is wrong. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/31 "2009-12-15T11:27:34Z")
Actually, as far as I can tell, the Tuskeegee Experiment had publications in '29, '34, and '36, to _start_ with. It’s just that nobody cared. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/32 "2009-12-15T13:41:47Z")
No doubt Jesse will get around to exposing the H1N1 conspiracy soon. Could it be part of a genetically-engineered CIA-sponsored mind control agenda? No one has yet proved that it isn’t so. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/33 "2009-12-15T15:25:02Z")
I thought it was funny as hell him saying that if they’re not allowing a former Navy Seal on the base, it’s because they have something to hide, insinuating that he has life-long open access to any US Military base on the planet any time he wants it. Like Gorilla Monsoon used to say about him, Jesse would break his own arm to pat himself on the back. ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/34 "2009-12-15T16:10:22Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > I thought it was funny as hell him saying that if they’re not allowing a former Navy Seal on the base, it’s because they have something to hide Actually, from what I have read, he was never actually on a SEAL team. He went through BUD/S but was assigned to a UDT rather than a SEAL team. Not that I don’t respect the hell out of someone who can complete BUD/S—I’d rather be in combat than go through that shit—but he’s kind of milking that to another level by making it sound as if he were on the SEAL teams. ---
**Author:** ![shiftless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9c0ed/32.png) [@shiftless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shiftless)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/35 "2009-12-15T16:31:09Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > Should Carl Weathers, the black guy from _Predator_, seek political office? There are a number of cast members from _Predator_ who have never gone on to govern a state … conspiracy, or not? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/36 "2009-12-15T16:36:20Z")
> [@RikWriter](#): > > Actually, from what I have read, he was never actually on a SEAL team. He went through BUD/S but was assigned to a UDT rather than a SEAL team. Not that I don’t respect the hell out of someone who can complete BUD/S—I’d rather be in combat than go through that shit—but he’s kind of milking that to another level by making it sound as if he were on the SEAL teams. Truth. He was a Frogman, NOT a Seal. But Jesse was never one for truth when stretching it would make himself sound more badass. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/37 "2009-12-15T23:05:37Z")
I love conspiracies. I am neutral about whether they are true or not. But I enjoy the speculation. Official explanations are always too quick and leave too many probabilities not dealt with. That is enough room for someone to crank out a theory or 4. But the program is not about whether Jesse was a seal or a boyscout. Jesse was plenty badass enough. A huge steroid eating weight lifting pro wrestler ,he was bad. ---
**Author:** ![Algorithm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/algorithm/32/12204_2.png) [@Algorithm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Algorithm)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/38 "2009-12-15T23:45:25Z")
> [@gonzomax](#): > > Yes there does seem to be. There are points made about the flight recorders, which can be recovered from the bottom of the ocean but did not show up in the Trade Centers. Crash experts say that was impossible. They would find them. Then witnesses say they saw them be recovered. He does a pretty good job. To sum up, then: [ol] [li]“Crash experts” say it is impossible to _not_ find flight recorders[/li][li]“The Government” says they were not recovered[/li][li]“Witnesses” say they saw the flight recorders recovered[/li][/ol] The truth value of statements 1, 2, and 3 really have no bearing the facts of the matter regarding the planes, buildings, manner of collapse, or parties responsible. So, nothing new or particularly interesting other than a new nutjob promoting the same garbage we’ve seen 80 billion times before. When come back, bring substance. ---
**Author:** ![BigBertha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/d78d45/32.png) [@BigBertha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigBertha)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/39 "2009-12-15T23:48:42Z")
I’m hoping for the Princess Diana one. Why were all the cameras in or near the tunnel not working at that time? and so on. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [December 15, 2009, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249/40 "2009-12-15T23:49:42Z")
Of course they do matter. They will tell when they cockpits were taken over . They will hear the orders they were giving. They could be relevant. They might not. The reason it helps the conspiracy is that it is very convenient for the government .it helps the conspiracy because they can not kill the speculation. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesse-the-governor-ventura-911-and-conspiracies-conspiracy-theory-show/521249.md?page=3)