# Jessica Jones - Season Two (open spoilers) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 8, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260 "2018-03-08T20:51:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/1 "2018-03-08T20:51:39Z")
It’s online today. My wife and I re-watched the first season the last couple weeks and it is easily the best Marvel show on Netflix. Great, great show. However, it relied on having an amazing villain…who she killed at the end of the first season. Can they live up to Season 1 without David Tenant as the main villain? Spoilers as you watch; I’ll start tonight. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2018, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/2 "2018-03-08T20:56:39Z")
Thanks for the reminder. Luke Cage S2 comes out rather soon as well (3 months). Reviews are decent, and the main criticism seems to be the loss of a good villain. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/3 "2018-03-09T02:08:14Z")
I binged it today - I don’t think it was a strong as the first season as they divided the focus between Jessica, Patty, and Jeri (and Jeri’s story was basically a rehash of what she did in Season 1). Still pretty good as an entry into the Netflix MCU. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/4 "2018-03-09T14:01:58Z")
Watched two of them last night. So I guess they decided to end that police officer’s story. Huh. Bye!!! :waves bye: ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/5 "2018-03-09T15:13:45Z")
Just watched the first two episodes. I’m even more in love with Krysten Ritter than I was after season one, which I didn’t think was possible. Rachael Taylor continues to impress as Tricia (the “Patsy” scene in particular. You could see the desperation and loathing in the character’s eyes). I’ve read reviews where they said the lack of a major villain was a negative. I’m not so sure. I like the direction this season is heading, dealing with the fallout of season one. I think it’s an important breather. ---
**Author:** ![DCnDC](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dcndc/32/2842_2.png) [@DCnDC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DCnDC)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/6 "2018-03-09T15:15:15Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > However, it relied on having an amazing villain…who she killed at the end of the first season. Funny I liked everything about the first season _except_ the villain. While I enjoy David Tennant as an actor, I just hate mind control villains in general. It inevitably leads to a lot of lazy writing. Rescued that victim and about to send her along safely? Wait-- mind control! About to get the answers you need? Nope, mind control! Gang up with another hero to fight together? Sorry, mind control! Finally got the villain cornered? On no, mind control! ---
**Author:** ![RikWriter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/49beb7/32.png) [@RikWriter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RikWriter)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2018, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/7 "2018-03-09T23:10:31Z")
I finished it today. Uggh. What a train wreck. I totally lost interest after her mom went to jail…it dragged on and on and got stupider and stupider with every episode after that. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/8 "2018-03-10T00:29:40Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > Luke Cage S2 comes out rather soon as well (3 months). It’s going to have to have incredible reviews for me to watch. I _hated_ Luke Cage season 1. The worst Marvel show by a mile. I thought Iron Fist, which was only OK, was a lot better. Yep, even Iron Fist. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/9 "2018-03-10T13:02:20Z")
We just finished Ep 6 and so far I’m not thrilled with this season. It has less to do with the actors and more to do with the storyline. I get that JJ needs to find who did _this_ to her and who the murderer really is. I understand that digging deep into your own psyche can be ugly. Maybe it’s me, but I’m so tired of the trope it isn’t funny, and that’s across all entertainment genres. I’m not blaming JJ because she’s not a _fun_ superhero. Maybe she needs a stronger villian? I don’t know. OTOH I love the casting of this season thus far. I hate Tricia’s mother with the fire of a million suns. She goes to jail, as somebody said upthread? Good. Couldn’t happen to a nicer woman _snerk_ Making me feel that way? _That’s_ acting. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/10 "2018-03-10T13:07:07Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It’s going to have to have incredible reviews for me to watch. I _hated_ Luke Cage season 1. The worst Marvel show by a mile. > > I thought Iron Fist, which was only OK, was a lot better. Yep, even Iron Fist. Bite your tongue, sir. Luke Cage is far and away my favorite. If a show speaks deeply to my coming-of-age-in-the-70s soul, I am a fan forever. Worse than Iron Fist?!? _Really_?!? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/11 "2018-03-10T13:15:55Z")
> [@kiz](#): > > OTOH I love the casting of this season thus far. I hate Tricia’s mother with the fire of a million suns. She goes to jail, as somebody said upthread? Good. Couldn’t happen to a nicer woman _snerk_ Making me feel that way? _That’s_ acting. Heh. You know who that actress _is,_ right? ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/12 "2018-03-10T13:48:54Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Heh. You know who that actress _is,_ right? Should I know?!? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/13 "2018-03-10T13:49:57Z")
Rebecca De Mornay used to be a Pretty Big Deal. ---
**Author:** ![Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3da27b/32.png) [@Jake\_Bullet\_Traffic\_Control](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jake_Bullet_Traffic_Control)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/14 "2018-03-10T14:04:12Z")
I really want to like his show but some of the dialogue is _so_ cheesy! It always takes me out of the story. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/15 "2018-03-10T14:53:13Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Rebecca De Mornay used to be a Pretty Big Deal. OHHHHHHHHH! I thought she looked vaguely familiar! :makes note to really notice: ---
**Author:** ![Reluctant\_A](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/839c29/32.png) [@Reluctant\_A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reluctant_A)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2018, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/16 "2018-03-10T16:45:29Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > It’s going to have to have incredible reviews for me to watch. I _hated_ Luke Cage season 1. The worst Marvel show by a mile. > > I thought Iron Fist, which was only OK, was a lot better. Yep, even Iron Fist. Strongest disagree, although I’ll stipulate that we probably don’t consume entertainment the same way. Season 1 of _Luke Cage_ is my second-favorite Marvel Netflix series, just behind Season 1 of _Jessica Jones_, and ahead of Season 2 of _Jessica Jones_. And the only reason I have it second is because it was, admittedly, dragged down by the second half of the season. The first six episodes of Season 1 of _Luke Cage_ are, IMO, the best thing that Marvel Netflix has ever done. I got through Season 2 of _Jessica Jones_ over the last two days, and I enjoyed it. I’m curious to see where they could go with Season 3, if they’re determined to keep Jessica and Luke apart, though: they may have to create an entirely original storyline for the show. YMMV, but I feel like there’s only two good Jessica Jones story arcs from the comics that can be told, that don’t involve Luke and Jessica being together, and they’ve already told both of them. ---
**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/17 "2018-03-11T12:10:49Z")
OK, we’re up to Ep 9. I finally figured out why I’m having such a visceral reaction to this season: It’s a mother-daughter story. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/18 "2018-03-11T14:39:58Z")
Finished last night. Didn’t like it as much as season 1, thought the story was stretched thin to make it last 13 episodes. So where is the Trish story headed? Next season, will her ability be World’s Greatest Hackeysack Player? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/19 "2018-03-11T15:59:43Z")
Just finished it - liked it, didn’t love it. Very good performances, production, atmosphere, and dialogue, not so great story, though I didn’t think it was terrible. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2018, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260/20 "2018-03-11T19:22:44Z")
In retrospect, Season 1 — well, consider **AKA 99 Friends** : it’s minus Kilgrave, but that’s no loss: Will and Trish are reacting to what he put ‘em through in the _last_ episode, sure as it ends with the Malcolm’s-Been-Kilgraved reveal to fuel the _next_ episode, all while Jessica spends a lot of _this_ episode doping out whether her new client was sent to her on a mission from Kilgrave… …because, hey, what got the _first_ episode going? Clients who came to her because Kilgrave told them to, so Jessica would point Hope right at homicide charges he’d arranged; Jessica then determinedly spends most of the season trying to clear Hope, until Kilgrave — eventually just shrugs and resolves that plot. Kilgrave likewise sets a suicide in Jessica’s apartment; she turns herself in for that murder, so he — simply resolves that plot away, too. Jessica has a falling-out with Luke, over what Kilgrave had her do; so we get what looks like a character-development-and-reconciliation plot, until Kilgrave explains that, _nope, just me again_… …and that’s a _story_. Each episode of that season has someone doing stuff because Kilgrave said to, and for a _reason,_ which is “his obsessive desires.” As in, Jessica is the protagonist — but you can describe her reactions in a context that basically boils down to “his psychology”: where, to the extent that any given development makes sense from his perspective, everything automatically hangs together. This season didn’t really have that. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jessica-jones-season-two-open-spoilers/810260.md?page=2)