# Jesus Christ!  Does Mtv Ever Show Anything Besides "cribs" And "the Osbournes?"

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 16, 2002, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186 "2002-07-16T04:52:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/41 "2002-07-20T02:57:41Z")

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Downtown Julie Brown-African British woman who hosted Club MTV and partime VJ.

Miss Julie Brown-commedian Julie Brown-brassy redhead who was on “Just Say Julie” (one of my other favorites!), who went on to parts in the movie “Clueless” as the gym teacher.

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**Author:** ![Sealemon88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Sealemon88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sealemon88)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/42 "2002-07-20T03:04:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by SilkyThreat \*  
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> Yikes!  
> [sub]Then I won’t mention that I saw Madonna’s first video, new…or Cyndi Lauper’s. That would be prehistoric! ;)[/sub] \*\*

Well then I must be older than the Big Bang, because I remember MTV’s first video…I remember watching the start of this new cable channel, and thinking it seemed pretty cool…  
“Video killed the radio star…  
video killed the radio star…”  
MTV sucks so bad now it’s not even funy. The network needs an enema.

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**Author:** ![kiz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/7feea3/32.png) [@kiz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kiz)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/43 "2002-07-20T04:43:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Sealemon88 \*  
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> Well then I must be older than the Big Bang, because I remember MTV’s first video…I remember watching the start of this new cable channel, and thinking it seemed pretty cool…  
> “Video killed the radio star…  
> video killed the radio star…”  
> MTV sucks so bad now it’s not even funy. The network needs an enema. \*\*

[sub]shhh…I remember that too![/sub]

And what about:

The “astronaut” logo?  
Pauly Shore? :rolleyes:  
Gilbert Gottfried? :rolleyes:  
and…  
Randy of the Redwoods? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Last year, I think, they had some show starring Janene Garofolo and a couple of people hosting clips – not the entire videos, mind you – but clips of videos they said that MTV will never air again. True, most of them were cheesy, but geez, some of them were my favorites at the time…_sigh_

I **abhor** the way they’ve turned _The Real World_ and _Road Rules_ into media “sensations” (if that’s the right word). It’s like every season has to go way over the top of the previous one. There’s no more innocence about either show. That irks me to no end for some reason!

I do miss _Loveline_, though, even if Adam Carolla got on my nerves. Dr. Drew was the only person, IMO, who dispensed any kind of sensibility across the board.

I look at it this way, though: MTV reinvents itself for each generation. The present incarnation, though…:smack: :rolleyes: :smack:

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/44 "2002-07-20T05:18:46Z")

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Actually kiz that show was probably taken from the huge vote they did a few years ago

It was called soemthing like " videos you never want to see agaiin"

The most intersting thing on it was they had the former vanilla ice on it akd he went off and smashed the supposed master tape of the video and went on a rant about it and they had security escort him out

But it was videos they hadnt played for years by the time the show came out …

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**Author:** ![Jurhael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/cab0a1/32.png) [@Jurhael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jurhael)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/45 "2002-07-20T06:38:06Z")

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Oh! I remember the Video Jury one. I liked that show.  
"I must have been the only person who ever watched it though, no one I mentioned it to had ever heard of it, but it still aired for a good year or more before it disappeared. "

I watched AMP. I miss it too. I love electronic music!

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**Author:** ![nightshadea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7ba0ec/32.png) [@nightshadea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nightshadea)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/46 "2002-07-20T07:48:59Z")

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What ever happened to that show where they had a court type of thing over who was to blame for the break up … did that last any length of time ?

I think they called it the blame game …

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [July 20, 2002, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/47 "2002-07-20T18:44:19Z")

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MTV does still show videos, but from around 2-6am ☹

The digital cable channel Noggin started airing Daria this summer, though, so that makes me happy anyway. I’ve never seen it on Nickoloden, however. Over 100 channels and I _still_ don’t get M2, which was one of the few channels I watched in college.

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**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/48 "2002-07-21T02:11:59Z")

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> \*Originally posted by nightshadea \*  
> \*\*The most intersting thing on it was they had the former vanilla ice on it akd he went off and smashed the supposed master tape of the video and went on a rant about it and they had security escort him out \*\*

Holy crap. That was simultaneously one of the funniest and scariest moments of recent history. :eek:

I seem to remember that it was Janeane Garofalo, Jon Stewart and…someone else, when Mr. Rob Van Winkle showed up to toast the fact that “Ice Ice Baby” would never be shown again. Of course, Vanilla’s trying to come across as a “bad boy,” because it’s the only image makeover his already-taxed handlers could come up with to combat the patina of suckiness he’s fashioned for himself.

Vanilla proceeds to **go completely fucking apeshit,** take the supposed “master,” and stomp it into a million pieces. Then, he starts in on the set itself, throwing around some of the (admittedly) shitty-looking stuff they’ve got lying around the room.

For as long as I live, I will NEVER ever forget the looks on Janeane and Jon’s faces. They were of both abject horror and loathing, mixed in with some pity, and more horror. I think Janeane thought she was going to be next.

Forget Visa. THAT was fucking PRICELESS. 😛

:wally

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 2:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/49 "2002-07-21T02:28:46Z")

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Denis Leary and Chris Kattan were also there.

I liked when Leary made a “Don Johnson” cocktail-he made a drink and put the tape stuff in the blender with it. From Don Johnson’s video. Priceless.

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**Author:** ![Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeezix)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/50 "2002-07-21T03:14:12Z")

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> _Originally posted by **Chastain86** _  
> **I seem to remember that it was Janeane Garofalo, Jon Stewart and…someone else…**

Mike Meyers, if memory serves. And IIRC, he looked like he was close to shitting himself when Robbie takes a baseball bat to the tape, which has fallen on the floor right next to Mike.

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**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/51 "2002-07-21T04:56:18Z")

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Awwwwwwwwwww, it’s a bunch of people who are afraid to admit to themselves that they **aren’t** hip and with it and cool anymore, and have to try and rip something that they think **used** to be cool, but now sucks.

Here’s a clue folks: If you are over 19, you are out of MTV’s target demographic, so you can go fuck yourselves for all MTV cares about you anymore.

And why do I think that back in the days when you guys did watch MTV on a regular basis, you sat there and screeched and bleated that all of the videos they played “sucked?”

Safe bet on that one.

You can always change the fucking channel but that seems to be a bit too challenging for some of you.

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**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/52 "2002-07-21T06:23:16Z")

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Just a heads up, Comedy Central does standup shows I think Friday and Saturday nights? They get some good acts. It ends I’m pretty sure at 11 on the West Coast. Also Insomniac with Dave Atell (Attel?) is pretty funny. That’s on relatively late.

Tenebras

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**Author:** ![Sealemon88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c68b51/32.png) [@Sealemon88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sealemon88)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/53 "2002-07-21T20:42:56Z")

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> Awwwwwwwwwww, it’s a bunch of people who are afraid to admit to themselves that they aren’t hip and with it and cool anymore, and have to try and rip something that they think used to be cool, but now sucks.

Awwwwwwwwwww, it’s a condescending little twit who’se going to generalize about a bunch of criticism about a channel that used to show MUSIC VIDEOS. Yes, there’s been some criticism about the shows as well, but for the most part, the biggest complaint from us seems to be that a channel that calls itself Music Television is only half right.

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> And why do I think that back in the days when you guys did watch MTV on a regular basis, you sat there and screeched and bleated that all of the videos they played “sucked?”
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> Safe bet on that one.

Ummmm, I think you’d lose that bet. It certaintly wasn’t true for me, since MTV at one time actually set aside blocks of airtime for alternitive music, hip hop, and metal, as well as Top Fourty videos… And by “alternitive music, hip hop and metal, as well as Top Fourty videos”, I mean MUSIC VIDEOS, uncut or interuupted by someone yelling about how much they like the performer, and how they want to give a shout out to their friends Buttlicker, Assclown and Turkey Snargler.

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> You can always change the fucking channel but that seems to be a bit too challenging for some of you.

Well, yeah, I guess I _could_ change the channel, except that the only other channel that I have that shows music videos is VH1, and that channel seems to be edging out music videos too.

So, with that said, I guess it IS too fucking hard to change the channel, huh?

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**Author:** ![blur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dbc845/32.png) [@blur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blur)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/54 "2002-07-21T21:43:00Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \*  
> \*\*Oooh, I remember when I was in high school, they had this completely kickass sketch comedy show called “The State”. Anyone remember that one?
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> “I’m Doug. I’m OOUUUTAAA here…” \*\*

I loved that show. My friends and I still say that once in a while.

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**Author:** ![xyzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e36b37/32.png) [@xyzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xyzzy)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/55 "2002-07-21T23:24:08Z")

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:claps hands together:

Okay, kiddies…what does MTV stand for?

That’s right…MUSIC TELEVISION.

No plastic crap. No fake tits. No corporate giants enslaving us.

Just kickass videos, one right after the other.

So where is the MUSIC?

:another pissed off Eighties Child fades back into the woodwork:

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**Author:** ![pesch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pesch/32/4925_2.png) [@pesch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pesch)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/56 "2002-07-21T23:28:23Z")

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> _Originally posted by WSLer \*  
> \*\* And why do I think that back in the days when you guys did watch MTV on a regular basis, you sat there and screeched and bleated that all of the videos they played “sucked?”_\*

Because you’re a moron who loves categorizing people on reflex. If we didn’t care about the music, we wouldn’t be complaining, would we?

Yes, I’m an old fart of 42. Yes, I remember MTV’s original VeeJay lineup. Yes, I liked some of the videos, hated others. But there were a lot of videos and an opportunity to be exposed to a lot of music.

Not anymore. MTV’s out, I can’t get MTV2 and VH1 doesn’t play new music at all. Radio’s a wasteland that sticks to the ten songs for which the most bribes were paid, and the music companies wonder why sales are finally dropping faster than Britney Spear’s jeans.

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**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\
**Post date:** [July 21, 2002, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/57 "2002-07-21T23:36:29Z")

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Wait a second, Britney’s dropping her jeans? Pictures will be available online, I assume…

Tenebras

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**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2002, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/58 "2002-07-22T21:05:20Z")

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> \*Originally posted by WSLer \*  
> \*\*Awwwwwwwwwww, it’s a bunch of people who are afraid to admit to themselves that they **aren’t** hip and with it and cool anymore, and have to try and rip something that they think **used** to be cool, but now sucks.

Says you, limp dick! Oh, wait, i am now uncool, because i make fun of mtv? Did not get that memo, my bad! No one died and made you\* Arbiter Elegantiarum\* kiddo.

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> Here’s a clue folks: If you are over 19, you are out of MTV’s target demographic, so you can go fuck yourselves for all MTV cares about you anymore.

It is not like any one over 19 watches telly anyway, And it is also very sad that you only know one swear word. And it is even MORE sad that you cannot debate us, and instead must be a condescending little prick.

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> And why do I think that back in the days when you guys did watch MTV on a regular basis, you sat there and screeched and bleated that all of the videos they played “sucked?”

No, I have only had to do that recently, I would happily sit and watch videos while folding clothes. Every channel has shows that suck, for whatever reason, and i can think of quite a few of them, before senility sets in. Sometimes us residents just wanna have fun, and we want our MTV, we want to watch the video, the whole video, and nothing but the video!! Fire up thet pimple you call a brain and tell us that you like Carson Daly, and whatever blonde chick VJ they are shilling now! Prove to us you like TRL and wee snips of whatever video they deign to show us.

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> Safe bet on that one. You can always change the fucking channel but that seems to be a bit too challenging for some of you.

Oh , there are remotes where i am as well as electric lights and internet access, kid, BUT, what the fuck is your point? You drooling sack of snake shit! I have heard more clever insults from third graders,

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**Author:** ![Chastain86](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Chastain86](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chastain86)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2002, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-does-mtv-ever-show-anything-besides-cribs-and-the-osbournes/119186/59 "2002-07-23T01:16:37Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Sealemon88 \*  
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> I mean MUSIC VIDEOS, uncut or interuupted by someone yelling about how much they like the performer, and how they want to give a shout out to their friends _Buttlicker, Assclown and Turkey Snargler._  
> \*\*

😃 Allow me to revise–THOSE were fucking PRICELESS.  
I will not stoop to reply to any of the comments the Pathetic Asswrangler Who Originally Thought to Flame Us ™ came up with. I think most of you did a damn good job without me flipping the switch on the flamethrower.

Go back to Ain’t-It-Cool-News, you pathetic turd burglar. I understand flaming for no apparent reason is popular there.

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