# Jesus Christ episode 2: son of God or God Almighty? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 3, 2013, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-episode-2-son-of-god-or-god-almighty/651909 "2013-03-03T12:42:21Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-episode-2-son-of-god-or-god-almighty/651909/21 "2013-03-04T00:38:30Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Ultimately, just using Bible verses will accomplish nothing. The wonderful thing about the Bible is that it will support just about any view if you pick the right verses. Classic illustration of your point: “There is no God.” – Psalm 14:1b 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-episode-2-son-of-god-or-god-almighty/651909/22 "2013-03-04T00:57:29Z")
> [@ruben4ruben](#): > > If there is somebody, anybody that wants to see my arguments(bible verses) on this question i’ll post the bible verses. Doesn’t seem there is. > [@](#): > > Otherwise i’ll take Tom’s advice and forget about it. That’s good advice. ---
**Author:** ![BlueMit11](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7feea3/32.png) [@BlueMit11](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlueMit11)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-episode-2-son-of-god-or-god-almighty/651909/23 "2013-03-04T01:03:34Z")
**Ruben** , why don’t you do things the other way around: Make a brief claim (one or two sentences, like a good thesis). If someone wants to dispute the claim, _then_ you can share your evidence as needed. If not, then you don’t really have a great debate, and therefore have no reason for continuing. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-episode-2-son-of-god-or-god-almighty/651909/24 "2013-03-04T01:19:08Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > I have to say I’m a little disappointed. Why back in the day JW’s would make a real effort to walk down your street and knock on doors and annoy you in person with their witnessing and literature. Now it’s just a hit and run / cut and paste on a message board. Where’s the quality?.. The one on one?.. The human touch of slamming the door in the face mid sentence… It’s no wonder their membership is in decline. Sad. “I was going to make espresso…” ---
**Author:** ![SirGalahad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/71c47a/32.png) [@SirGalahad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirGalahad)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-episode-2-son-of-god-or-god-almighty/651909/25 "2013-03-04T11:49:42Z")
(Mat 15:9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. “The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned.” (1 Corinthians 2:14 ) I posted these verses in your first thread. If you really want to talk Bible verses, why didn’t you respond to the post then? If you have a point to make, why not actually make it in the current thread? MY points are that I suspect much of religion is Man’s concepts attributed to God. Also, that many people are deaf to spiritual matters. Running away will not help challenge or address these ideas. Do you have a few things to share initially that don’t involve reading a set of long treatises first? ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2013, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-episode-2-son-of-god-or-god-almighty/651909/26 "2013-03-04T13:14:25Z")
> [@ruben4ruben](#): > > Our membership’s on the rise by the way. You can simply check the numbers if you really cared. It’s been a boom for the past 20 years and it doesn’t look like it’s slowing down. Ruben, you do know of course when you use the Bible you are using a book and writings the Roman and Orthodox Bishops at the request of Constantine( in the 300’s) decided what was of God ,and what was not. So you are really believing in the Men of a Religion I have heard other JW’s call bad names. even calling nuns brides of the Devil. That in it self is making judgements and Jesus is quoted as saying’Judge not, lest you too be Judged". If your membership is growing then you won’t get to heaven if you use the number of the saved according to your teachings. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-christ-episode-2-son-of-god-or-god-almighty/651909.md?page=1)