# Jesus clothes after the Resurrection **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 31, 2010, 11:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446 "2010-03-31T11:48:47Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/21 "2010-03-31T17:01:14Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > The strips \*were the shrouds, and there were no robes. Not neccessarily. They had cloths and sheets and so forth, and there’s a difference between what a rural Jew would have vs. a Greek vs. an urbanized Jew. All of those factors were present in and around Jesus’s death. Tachrichim > **[tachrichim - Google Search](http://images.google.com/images?um=1&hl=en&tbs=isch%3A1&sa=1&q=tachrichim&btnG=Search&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&start=0)** Basic description - not changed a lot in the last coupla eons [http://www.uscj.org/guide\_to\_jewish\_fune6211.html](http://www.uscj.org/guide_to_jewish_fune6211.html) The Tachrichim > **[Tachrichim](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tachrichim)** > > A tachrich (Hebrew: תַכְרִ֥יךְ, romanized: tak̲rik̲), plural tachrichim, is a traditional simple white shroud in Judaism usually made from 100% pure linen. > A chevra kadisha or similar burial society ritually washes (ṭahārā) and dresses (halbāshā) the body, wrapping it in the tachrich. It may be a white tallit with the tzitziyot removed. > > In Biblical Hebrew, tachrich appears to mean a wrapped garment. In Esther 8:15, Mordecai left the king's presence in royal apparel with a golden crown "and a w... Thus, we see a long tradition of wraps, which are not the same as strips. > [@](#): > > They don’t just have discrepencies, at the points where they no longer share a common source (Mark), they diverge into compeletely different stories. Partly they do. But they were written down by seperate people long after the events happened, and held together remarkably well despite human error. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/22 "2010-03-31T17:17:08Z")
Matt 28:3 seems to indicate that the Father clothed Him. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/23 "2010-03-31T17:27:41Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > Matt 28:3 seems to indicate that the Father clothed Him. That’s talking about an angel, **not** Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![kanicbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@kanicbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kanicbird)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/24 "2010-03-31T17:34:23Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > That’s talking about an angel, **not** Jesus. ty ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/25 "2010-03-31T17:38:55Z")
> [@kanicbird](#): > > ty yw ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/26 "2010-03-31T17:54:13Z")
> [@bibliophage](#): > > That Mary saw Jesus and mistook him for the gardener: John 20:15. Hey, my gardener’s name is Jesus too! ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/27 "2010-03-31T18:07:11Z")
To take issue with a miracle that was not witnessed, yet leave aside the miracles which were witnessed, and testified to by the apostles, seems unlikely to be productive as a test of faith, or as an examination of the theological importance of the event of the resurrection naked, or robed. But, if a fish would eat a shekel, and come to Peter’s net, to assure Peter of God’s love for him, and provide his small needs upon the earth, it seems to me unsurprising that circumstances provided the modest clothing of a gardener for the Lord in his last need upon the earth as a man, no longer mortal. No doubt the matter of His attire passed without notice among those who had grieved his passing from their lives, and now were in the midst of wonder, and joy for the Resurrection. In your uninvolved, and emotionless view of the event, no doubt the sudden appearance of a suit of clothes demands some explanation. Perhaps it was a miracle. Tris ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/28 "2010-03-31T18:09:12Z")
> [@Triskadecamus](#): > > To take issue with a miracle that was not witnessed, yet leave aside the miracles which were witnessed, and testified to by the apostles, seems unlikely to be productive as a test of faith, or as an examination of the theological importance of the event of the resurrection naked, or robed. > > But, if a fish would eat a shekel, and come to Peter’s net, to assure Peter of God’s love for him, and provide his small needs upon the earth, it seems to me unsurprising that circumstances provided the modest clothing of a gardener for the Lord in his last need upon the earth as a man, no longer mortal. No doubt the matter of His attire passed without notice among those who had grieved his passing from their lives, and now were in the midst of wonder, and joy for the Resurrection. > > In your uninvolved, and emotionless view of the event, no doubt the sudden appearance of a suit of clothes demands some explanation. Perhaps it was a miracle. > > Tris My theory is he mugged and stripped a gardener. Why else would Mary mistake him for the gardener, if he wasn’t wearing the gardener’s clothes? ---
**Author:** ![Triskadecamus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b19c9b/32.png) [@Triskadecamus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Triskadecamus)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/29 "2010-03-31T18:19:16Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > My theory is he mugged and stripped a gardener. Why else would Mary mistake him for the gardener, if he wasn’t wearing the gardener’s clothes? And mine is that a gardener happened upon the Lord, walking naked, and gave to him the very clothing from his own body. The gardener did not recognize Jesus, nor ever speak of his own act of charity. He achieved no notoriety, nor any earthly reward. I shall speak no more of him, lest my worldly acclaim diminish the reward he now enjoys in heaven. Tris ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/30 "2010-03-31T18:36:20Z")
> [@Triskadecamus](#): > > And mine is that a gardener happened upon the Lord, walking naked, and gave to him the very clothing from his own body. The gardener did not recognize Jesus, nor ever speak of his own act of charity. He achieved no notoriety, nor any earthly reward. I shall speak no more of him, lest my worldly acclaim diminish the reward he now enjoys in heaven. > > Tris Meh, the gardener was a closet nudist, and was just looking for an excuse. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/31 "2010-03-31T19:09:45Z")
> [@Triskadecamus](#): > > I shall speak no more of him, lest my worldly acclaim diminish the reward he now enjoys in heaven. Probably just a matter of [Chance.](http://course1.winona.edu/pjohnson/images/being4.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/32 "2010-03-31T20:37:25Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Y’know, it’s crap like this which makes me laugh at Atheists. The blind assumption that simply because we’re not explicitly told something it didn’t happen. I don’t recall it saying that jesus took dumps, either. But wait, I says that he ate! I don’t see anyone eating without taking dumps, so it couldn’t have just passed over it! Inconsistency! I won’t believe unles you can show me Jesus shat! > > First off, IIRC, people were not usually interred naked. Simply because he died in the buff doesn’t mean they didn’t put something on before they put him in the tomb. Second, you then go on to complain that Jesus, after rising from the dead and appearing before his desciples after death, didn’t get some clothes from somewhere (hell, anywhere). > > Honestly, this doesn’t even rise to level of being “petty.” Epic fail, guys, epic fail. If Jesus was buried and just covered with a shroud as in the Shroud Of Turin story, then His image wouldn’t be on the shroud but on the clothes. ---
**Author:** ![monavis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e0b2c6/32.png) [@monavis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monavis)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/33 "2010-03-31T21:03:14Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > Cite please. I will add to Bibliophage’s quotes: John chapter 20 verse 27 asking Thomas to put his finger in the wounds to prove it was really Himself, and also-Luke @24 Verse 39 saying he was not a spirit. Luke also gives a different description of finding the clothes in the tomb.It is hard to believe writers who give different descriptions of what happened, and then think it is inspired by God. I really think God could be more clear on what the real truth is; and I also understand that humans like to make up stories. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/34 "2010-04-01T00:14:21Z")
> [@Triskadecamus](#): > > To take issue with a miracle that was not witnessed, yet leave aside the miracles which were witnessed, and testified to by the apostles, seems unlikely to be productive as a test of faith, or as an examination of the theological importance of the event of the resurrection naked, or robed. I’d be surprised if anyone observing this particular hole in the Resurrection stories gives an credence at all to the other miracle stories either. None of them were testified to by the apostles, by the way. We have no eyewitness testimony for any of the miracle stories or for anything else about Jesus. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 10:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/35 "2010-04-01T10:42:37Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’d be surprised if anyone observing this particular hole in the Resurrection stories gives an credence at all to the other miracle stories either. > > None of them were testified to by the apostles, by the way. We have no eyewitness testimony for any of the miracle stories or for anything else about Jesus. Worse still, it was known from his birth that he was “the chosen one”, but there is no chronicling of the years that shaped the man. I call “BS”.\* - I’d be more than willing to have my ignorance eradicated on this topic, so if anyone has any childhood stories of Jesus, bring them on. ---
**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/36 "2010-04-01T15:57:45Z")
Well, I’m convinced, and just in time for Easter, too. I was having no difficulty believing that someone as dead as a doornail could be up and about a day and two nights later, but the whole clothing thing is just one impossibility too many. Boy is my face red. [This](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+2:41-52&version=NIV) any use, **ivan astikov**? ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/37 "2010-04-01T17:14:33Z")
> [@Malacandra](#): > > Well, I’m convinced, and just in time for Easter, too. I was having no difficulty believing that someone as dead as a doornail could be up and about a day and two nights later, but the whole clothing thing is just one impossibility too many. Boy is my face red. > > [This](http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+2:41-52&version=NIV) any use, **ivan astikov**? To pretend for a moment that you’re serious (hey, it’s April 1, I can say any stupid thing I want), several religions train their children from birth to accept the whole ressurection thing. Spontaneous clothing generation, not so much. Plus straws and camel’s backs and all. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/38 "2010-04-01T18:55:34Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > - I’d be more than willing to have my ignorance eradicated on this topic, so if anyone has any childhood stories of Jesus, bring them on. There’s the [Infancy Gospel of Thomas](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infancy_Gospel_of_Thomas) but I won’t vouch for its authenticity. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/39 "2010-04-01T19:12:16Z")
The only reference to Jesus’ childhood in the Canonical Gospels is Luke’s story of Jesus going to the Temple when he was 12 years old. The Apocryphals include the Infancy Gospels of Thomas and the Infancy Gospel of James. ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2010, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446/40 "2010-04-01T19:18:37Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > My theory is he mugged and stripped a gardener. Why else would Mary mistake him for the gardener, if he wasn’t wearing the gardener’s clothes? This is the explanation that can be found in the apocryphal Gospel of Cameron. Book II, Chapter 1 And Jesus entered the shelter of the gardener and spake, “I need your clothes, your boots, and your motorcycle.” And the gardener replied, “You forgot to say please.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-clothes-after-the-resurrection/534446.md?page=3)