# Jesus H. Christ on a pogo stick I fucking hate my Android phone

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**Created:** [July 20, 2013, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-h-christ-on-a-pogo-stick-i-fucking-hate-my-android-phone/664035 "2013-07-20T14:52:49Z")\
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What do you mean by “memory issues”? I’ve never had problems with my S3 running out of memory, but Android handles memory differently from IOs, or Windows for that matter, and if it’s running properly the memory will appear full.[Here’s an article](http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/) that explains how it works.

As for things like files it won’t play, there should be apps for that. It’s a feature of Android that you’ll find apps and customise it to your liking, as opposed to Apple, where you get more features as standard, buy if you don’t like them you’re fucked. There are almost always Android apps that are free to do what you need.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-h-christ-on-a-pogo-stick-i-fucking-hate-my-android-phone/664035/22 "2013-07-21T01:37:01Z")

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> [@miss\_elizabeth](#):
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> I am truthfully baffled by this

I think this is the poster who has expressed the opinion before that multiple configuration options = the manufacturer hasn’t optimised the phone.

Apparently if manufacturers give users the freedom to customize their phone to suit themselves best, then said manufacturer will not make any attempt to make sure the default configuration of the phone is set in the most optimal configuration, which means Android users live in a nightmare situation of continually tweaking the configuration as they try to find the sweet spot. iOS is superior because instead of inflicting this hell on their users, they make the phone uncustomisable, and instead invest all their R&D into setting the phone at the perfect level of optimisation for all users, everywhere. The lack of choice in iOS is a feature, not a bug, and those poor foolish Android users who are forced into squandering literally thousands of hours personalizing their phone because they have no other choice will never be able to enjoy the benefits of owning a phone that thinks it knows what you want better than you do.

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> I’ve had an Android phone of some kind since they came out and I’ve never had to do phone maintenance and the only configuring and “fucking-with” I’ve ever had to do with it is setting up my preferences. Care to elaborate on this seemingly odd proclamation?

Yeah, me too, I’ve had them since the T-Mobile G1. I occasionally go through my installed apps and uninstall the ones I don’t use, if you can call that “maintenance”.

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**Post date:** [July 21, 2013, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-h-christ-on-a-pogo-stick-i-fucking-hate-my-android-phone/664035/24 "2013-07-21T02:48:10Z")

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> [@Steophan](#):
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> What do you mean by “memory issues”? I’ve never had problems with my S3 running out of memory, but Android handles memory differently from IOs, or Windows for that matter, and if it’s running properly the memory will appear full.[Here’s an article](http://www.howtogeek.com/127388/htg-explains-why-you-shouldnt-use-a-task-killer-on-android/) that explains how it works.

My Samsung has no troubles as of yet, but as I mentioned the issues were on the old HTC., which at the time I got it was pretty cutting edge. It would get a text message and then say it could not open it because it did not have enough memory. I’d go around deleting caches, and then restarting and that would solve the problem about 1/3 the time.

It got so bad I had to get a replacement phone. Thankfully we were on the full replacement plan.

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I get it, the iPhone thing. I had an iPhone and loved it while I hated iTunes with the heat of a thousand suns. If the iP5 had met my hopes and expectations, I would still have one, and would still be putting up with fucking iTunes because of it.

Going from that environment was a pretty steep learning curve for me. It was also a mostly joyful one, and occasionally confusing - until I discovered all those YouTube videos with tips and tricks and they really helped me a lot. I turned to them again when I got the S4 a couple months ago, there’s a lot, lot, to learn, even coming from the S2 with the same interface, it took a couple of weeks to settle in to it. But, something as simple as the stupid Live Wallpapers - you can pry them from my cold, dead hands! I also never thought I would be one of those people with a shit ton of apps, but here I am, with a list of about 100. Eh. Smartphones changed the way I do almost everything, and each one I’ve had has been a happy improvement from the last.

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I like my Motorola Triumph. It did have some annoying bloatware when I got it, “courtesy” of Virgin Mobile, and I did hit one really weird error. Google got me to Android Forums, which helped me solve that problem and convinced me that it was well within my abilities to root (Android for “jailbreak”) the phone to get rid of the pre-installs I didn’t want. I’ve since done stuff like play with custom ROMs.

I’ve never owned an iPhone, but do have an iPod Touch. I get along OK with iOS, but prefer the greater control I have with Android, and generally don’t have any more stability issues with the Triumph than I do with the iTouch (OK, I was having problems with Navigate today, which I suspect to have been heat-related, making it a hardware issue). I’ve never had files disappear on me or the other problems the OP reports.

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> [@DragonAsh](#):
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> Google ‘disappearing photos Android’ and you’ll find it’s most definitely not an isolated case. Some weird shit is going on.

I Googled “disappearing photos Android” and I got ~ 627,000 hits.

Googling “disappearing photos iPhone” yields ~ 1,890,000 hits.

:dubious:

:smack:

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Yet another Galaxy owner who has no idea what you are talking about.

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> My Samsung has no troubles as of yet, but as I mentioned the issues were on the old HTC., which at the time I got it was pretty cutting edge. It would get a text message and then say it could not open it because it did not have enough memory. I’d go around deleting caches, and then restarting and that would solve the problem about 1/3 the time.
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> It got so bad I had to get a replacement phone. Thankfully we were on the full replacement plan.

I wonder if HTC had messed with the version of the OS they had on that phone. Or a later version of an app didn’t play nicely with it, and caused memory leaks.

That’s one genuine issue with Android that doesn’t occur with other OSs, pretty much each manufacturer uses their own custom build of it, and some are vastly better than others. A little research before buying an Android device is pretty necessary. (I’m not saying you didn’t do this, as sometimes issues don’t show up for months or years).

Again, this isn’t a bug, it’s a feature, and allows Android to work on a vast range of devices, but it does mean some of them will be crap.

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Second one for me, galaxy note this time (my first galaxy got destroyed in a horrible recliner accident). Love it, wouldn’t trade it for a stack of iPhones. Never have to do anything to it. It just works.

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I like my android phone, and aside from the occasional nuisance of losing my 4G connection when I’m out in the field on an army base (and that’s my provider’s shortcoming, not the hardware or software’s), I’m satisfied.  
This rant is illogical. Norman, coordinate!

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The other issue I suppose I gripe about is the notification system for the Samsung. For example if I open it right now and open the notifications I see that it thinks my dentists called me at 7:13 this morning (a Sunday). The light flashes at me and I can never figure out what it is trying to alert me to.

The sound also gets messed up a lot. I don’t think this is Droid but Samsung which has the volume buttons that get bumped easily. But that does not account for the phone not making any sound for a text when the volume is pumped. It seems very arbitrary. The sound in system seems poorly designed as well - if I turn down the volume in one application it goes down in others but I cannot figure out which ones. Usually I end up trying to mute an application if I don’t want to hear it speak but some don’t have that feature.

My wife has the same phone and she is much more fed up with it. She has email issues that drive her utterly nuts (she has to coordinate multiple accounts). She has stated flatly that she will be going back to Blackberry.

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**DragonAsh** : You say you have a Samsung Galaxy, but don’t say what model. There are a shit-ton of different models of the Samsung Galaxy ranging from cheap and kinda crappy, to expensive and top-of-the-line. If you bought a cheapie, just calling it a “Galaxy” and deriding all the other models, not to mention ALL Android phones, would be a bit of a stretch.

Anyway… I’ll bet dollars to donuts that your pics have not actually disappeared, you’re just looking in the wrong place. If it’s the problem I suspect it might be, then an app called \*SD-rescan \*might fix it. As for a way better image gallery, you’ll probably be happy to try _QuickPic_. As for your videos that you’re having trouble playing, \*MXPlayer \*is a MUST have.

All apps mentioned are free, BTW.  
ETA: By my count, there are at least [59 different Samsung Galaxy models.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsung_Galaxy)

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sounds like you have a defective phone. just like bad RAM can cause your PC/Mac to crash in numerous ways, same goes for a smartphone.

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I have a Galaxy SII Epic 4G Touch, and it’s one of the older models having been released nearly two years ago. As such it’s undoubtedly one of the cheaper (free upgrade to me, on contract) and less capable examples of the line, but even so we’ve never had problems with ours. They have enough memory, internal storage, and processing power that, unlike our previous phones, they work great out of the box. My wife still has hers in completely stock condition and I’ve customized mine a little. I used to have a custom ROM (version of Android) on mine but now I have stock Jellybean rooted. I keep it rooted for the sake of personal preferences, but unlike my previous model I didn’t have to root it and desperately clear out bloatware just to make it perform halfway decently. One caveat is that I don’t do a lot of gaming; OTOH I make fairly heavy use of Opera and Google mapping and location services.

The only complaint I do have is that no music/mp3 playback and management tool has been better than mediocre. That may be an Android OS issue.

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My biggest issue with my new Samsung Galaxy S4 is that it won’t talk with my GM vehicle, except the phone, so no music through the car speakers yet. I rented a newer GM vehicle recently with MyLink and the music would play via a Bluetooth connection however.

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**DragonAsh** , which Samsung phone did you have? Believe it or not it does make a difference.

I’ve had my Galaxy Note II going on 10 months now, and still love it. I haven’t had any problems whatsoever. It is a phenomenal device, and this is coming from someone with a long history with Apple devices. I switched my wife from Apple to an Android phone (HTC Incredible) and once she realized she could sync her iTunes music library, she never looked back. Since then she’s upgraded to the Galaxy SIII, and now wants the S4.

People say the iPhone “just works,” well yeah if you’re okay with the limitations of the device, and being tethered, like a slave, to iTunes for transferring files. Also, it is not correct that Android users have to constantly tinker with their devices. As I said in an earlier thread, I tinkered with mine upon receipt to configure it to work the way I wanted it to. For example, I changed the TouchWiz launcher to GO. Here is a link to a [here is a YouTube tutorial"]YouTube tutorial]([ColdfusTion's Android 3D UI Tutorial [Take Android To The Next Level] - YouTube](http://youtube.com/watch?v=c39PXAr9_F8)) on the GO launcher for anyone interested in some cool customizations.

**DragonAsh** , your problems may have been with the particular phone you had, and not with Android, or Samsung.

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> [@ataraxy22](#):
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> My biggest issue with my new Samsung Galaxy S4 is that it won’t talk with my GM vehicle, except the phone, so no music through the car speakers yet. I rented a newer GM vehicle recently with MyLink and the music would play via a Bluetooth connection however.

I’m pretty sure that’s not an issue with the phone. For example, my wife has a 2012 Volkswagon Beetle. Initially, the phone in her Galaxy SIII worked through her car, but music and GPS wouldn’t. We found a setting in Settings on her phone, checked it, and now GPS voice directions and music play from her phone through her car without a problem as long as bluetooth is enabled in the car.

On the other hand, only her phone works through my car, not her music or GPS. It took me a while to realize that my vehicle will allow phone functionality through bluetooth and nothing else.

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LG Intuition owner w/Android…no issues except battery life.

Firefox, Facebook, Brighthouse TV, I Heart Radio, Kindle, Chat, etc…all work fine.

I don’t push it that much though, I haven’t video chatted or even used the cameras much.

To me its just a phone with cool features.

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I’m probably underusing my Motorola Android, but I really love it. It does everything I want and its easy to use. For me. I do have some complaints about the battery life, but I solved them by buying extra USB cords so I can charge it from whatever computer I’m at.

I really do wish it had the “I’m dying, plug me in” whiney beeps that my old phone had. I’m pretty sure there is an app for that, but I’m too lazy to look for it. That’s not my droid, its me.

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