# Jesus has asked for a new bizjet.  Yeah really.

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**Created:** [May 31, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167 "2018-05-31T02:48:13Z")\
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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/1 "2018-05-31T02:48:13Z")

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There are some who think Jesus doesn’t talk to his followers.

\*A prosperity gospel televangelist from Louisiana says Jesus has asked him to buy a new private jet. And wouldn’t you know it, Jesus has real nice taste in planes.

Jesse Duplantis, leader of Jesse Duplantis Ministries and the owner of three other private jets, is asking his followers to chip in so his ministry can purchase a brand new Dassault Falcon 7X, which runs about $54 million.

In a video recently published on his website, Duplantis says the planes get him closer to the Lord – both literally and figuratively – and he had a divine conversation in which Jesus asked for the new aircraft by name. \*

What I don’t get is why Jesus needs a bizjet, doesn’t he teleport?  
And his servants are suppose to walk right?  
I think we’re being sold something here.

Here’s [proof he speaks.](https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/30/us/jesse-duplantis-plane-falcon-7x-prosperity-gospel-trnd/index.html)

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/2 "2018-05-31T02:51:51Z")

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Creflo Dollar [pulled the same scam](https://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-siebold/the-biggest-scam-of-all-p_b_7521170.html) a few years ago. And it _worked._

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/3 "2018-05-31T02:56:58Z")

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Jesus must really like flying.

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**Author:** ![CharmaChameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@CharmaChameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CharmaChameleon)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/4 "2018-05-31T03:04:58Z")

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For Jesse, and Creflo, and all the others, you might want to think about this: [[Bob Dylan - A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall (Official Audio) - YouTube](https://youtu.be/T5al0HmR4to)](Dylan–It’s a Hard Rain’s A-Gonna Fall)

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**Author:** ![rsat3acr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/a3d4f5/32.png) [@rsat3acr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rsat3acr)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/5 "2018-05-31T03:49:31Z")

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I guess his other planes don’t spread the word fast enough. Of course after Jesus spoke to him telling him to get the plane Jesus told me it was all a misunderstanding and he should walk since that is what Jesus would do. Not sure if there is such a thing as an honest televangelist.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/6 "2018-05-31T03:56:56Z")

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Holy crap! My wife ran this by me tonight and I said “Oh yeah, Creflo Dollar… that’s old news.”

Damned if there aren’t more suckers out there than I thought.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
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Others: [- YouTube](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AdH2DGSXjss)

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/8 "2018-05-31T04:09:36Z")

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I was sure that link was going to be here:

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/WYW_lPlekiQ/hqdefault.jpg "What does God need with a starship") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYW_lPlekiQ)

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**Author:** ![DavidwithanR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3bc359/32.png) [@DavidwithanR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DavidwithanR)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/9 "2018-05-31T05:08:06Z")

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The amazing part is how the followers are so faithful - they always want the exact same thing Jesus wants.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
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WWJF (What would Jesus fly?)

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/11 "2018-05-31T11:19:22Z")

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> [@DavidwithanR](#):
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> The amazing part is how the followers are so faithful - they always want the exact same thing Jesus wants.

And it’s surprising how little prayer it takes to discern that God Almighty is in full agreement.

But what happened to walking on water? I suppose Jesus only knows.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/12 "2018-05-31T11:34:48Z")

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Some of the Lords servants certainly do fly as seen in the Bible, the angel like beings for one. Sometimes people are given such a lift in such vessels, even up to the heavens, so Jesus even uses a warp capable spaceship. Also they have traveled by animal power, and by ship, for that matter submarine style by fish.

Not sure why anyone would think the Lord of all Creation would be limited to hoofing it, they’re all His.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/13 "2018-05-31T11:45:09Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Some of the Lords servants certainly do fly as seen in the Bible, the angel like beings for one. Sometimes people are given such a lift in such vessels, even up to the heavens, so Jesus even uses a warp capable spaceship. Also they have traveled by animal power, and by ship, for that matter submarine style by fish.
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> Not sure why anyone would think the Lord of all Creation would be limited to hoofing it, they’re all His.

What do you think about this particular request, though? The dude already has three other private jets, y’know.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/14 "2018-05-31T11:47:30Z")

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> [@kanicbird](#):
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> Some of the Lords servants certainly do fly as seen in the Bible, the angel like beings for one. Sometimes people are given such a lift in such vessels, even up to the heavens, so Jesus even uses a warp capable spaceship. Also they have traveled by animal power, and by ship, for that matter submarine style by fish.
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> Not sure why anyone would think the Lord of all Creation would be limited to hoofing it, they’re all His.

This guy, and others like him, are not the Lord’s servants. They’re scam artists, nothing more.  
And you’ve fallen for it.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/15 "2018-05-31T11:56:32Z")

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[Even the Pope doesn’t have his own jet, and never has.](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/news/pope-airline-alitalia-bankrupt/)

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> What is Alitalia Flight AZ4000?
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> When the pope flies on “Shepherd One”, the papal equivalent of Air Force One, it is not actually the same plane, for the Vatican does not own aircraft, it only ever charters them. His Holiness has, however, laid claim to a flight number, AZ4000.

StG

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 12:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/16 "2018-05-31T12:51:01Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> WWJF (What would Jesus fly?)

Ohhh… I thought that was something else.

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“Deliver you from evil  
That never was the plan  
Those who fall for this one  
[Deserve the lousy hand](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMyiGQBqYYM)”

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I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me, or in a Dassault Falcon 7X.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/19 "2018-05-31T13:53:31Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> What do you think about this particular request, though? The dude already has three other private jets, y’know.

The same as Jesus saw the Pharisees. Leaders of the church are basically them, actually they are them as that is what Paul established as the method Paul chose to fulfill his divine mission, namely spread the name of Jesus to the gentiles. Paul did what he knew to accomplish that, created temples. But Jesus, through the angles of the churches, do work in the churches, so the Kingdom of God is advanced.

God is there to turn hearts to Love (aka, God), but God must go to where the hardened hearts are, so allows these places as places for Him to reach them when they start looking.

God does speak to people, do I think God spoke to this pastor which more to your question. Perhaps God did, but if God did I would say it is more likely in the form of ‘yes do it, since you are determined to do this anyway’, and God plans to use it to the advancement of His Kingdom regardless of this person, then to use this person to advance God’s Kingdom. This would seem to indicate that this person is so far lost that God has stopped trying to reach him for a time.

And to directly answer you, I do think this pastor is so far lost that God is basically letting it run it corse with him and it is not God he is really hearing.

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**Post date:** [May 31, 2018, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-has-asked-for-a-new-bizjet-yeah-really/815167/20 "2018-05-31T13:56:39Z")

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> [@running\_coach](#):
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> This guy, and others like him, are not the Lord’s servants. They’re scam artists, nothing more.  
> And you’ve fallen for it.

While it is possible he is a scam artists, which I would define that he knows he is a fraud, I feel there is plenty of room for belief that he is serving God. One can even say that if he started with such a belief and was lead into prosperity ministry and it worked, his belief would continue, which would make him not a scam artist.

Which one it is IDK.

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