# "Jesus hates dykes!"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 24, 2005, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679 "2005-06-24T15:57:26Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Ponder\_Stibbons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ponder_stibbons/32/343_2.png) [@Ponder\_Stibbons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ponder_Stibbons)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/41 "2005-06-24T19:27:54Z")

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> [@Scarlett67](#):
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> GOD IS COMING  
> AND IS SHE PISSED

How about …

GOD IS COMING  
HA HA! NOT REALLY SHE WAS JUST FAKING IT!

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**Author:** ![Fortytwois](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f17d59/32.png) [@Fortytwois](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fortytwois)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/42 "2005-06-24T19:30:12Z")

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> [@](#):
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> He grinned nervously, almost embarrassed, clearly ignorant, but in some way charming.
> 
> “So, what do you think of that?” I pressed on.
> 
> “Live and let live,” he said, shrugging. “They’re good neighbors.”
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> A pleasant surprise on a pleasant evening, sitting on the porch and watching the sun set.

I’m bi, and I can remember being absolutly TERRIFIED to come out to some of my friends in college, since some of them are hardcore Catholic/Christians/fill in the blank here. However one time one of those friends was IMing with me and out of the clear blue sky she goes “I don’t care if you like girls or guys…I just want you to be happy!”

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/43 "2005-06-24T19:33:35Z")

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> [@Waverly](#):
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> You misunderstand. By calling it the norm, there’s a connotation that not only could it happen, but it does happen, with regularity; and that being the ‘norm’, it isn’t viewed by the average individual as unique, unusual, or offensive. I do not think that this would apply to just anywhere.

I think you’re a little confused. This is considered normal everywhere but only in terms of vocal assholes. In other words, if someone is shouting at you, it’s not likely that they’re shouting something pleasant:

> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> It took me a long time before I realized that a significant number of Christians are like your neighbor: the live and let live folks, by their live-and-let-live nature, don’t shout their beliefs at me.
> 
> For all I know, a dozen other Christians driving past us last night thought I was a woman, shrugged, and drove on.

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**Author:** ![Waverly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/57b2e6/32.png) [@Waverly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waverly)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/44 "2005-06-24T19:47:53Z")

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> [@Lute Skywatcher](#):
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> I think you’re a little confused. This is considered normal everywhere but only in terms of vocal assholes.

So you are defining normal in terms of the vocal minority? Jerry Falmwell, is that you?!

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/45 "2005-06-24T19:53:56Z")

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To be fair, I get mistaken for a woman a _lot_. I’ve taken to nodding and grunting at other guys when I’m washing my hands in a public restroom so that I can set their minds at ease, so they don’t do the back-out-and-check-the-door hokey pokey. It wasn’t their mistake that bothered me; it was their venom.

And to be fair, while I get that mistake a lot, this is the second time in eight years that I’ve had someone be so virulently anti-lesbian at me. It’s at least unusual enough to pit.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/46 "2005-06-24T20:00:08Z")

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> [@Edward The Head](#):
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> Then again I might not have a very nice looking ass.

I didn’t know you even _had_ an ass. I always pictured you as a disembodied head.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/47 "2005-06-24T20:01:33Z")

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> [@Waverly](#):
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> So you are defining normal in terms of the vocal minority?

No, no. It’s normal for _them_, not us. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/48 "2005-06-24T20:03:15Z")

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Forgot to add: assholes are everywhere.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/49 "2005-06-24T20:06:55Z")

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> [@Waverly](#):
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> You misunderstand. By calling it the norm, there’s a connotation that not only _could_ it happen, but it _does_ happen, with regularity; and that being the ‘norm’, it isn’t viewed by the average individual as unique, unusual, or offensive. I do not think that this would apply to just anywhere.

It _does_ happen with regularity, and it is neither unique nor unusual. Still offensive, though, so you got that much right. However, I think **Lute** is trying to say that this sort of behavior is the norm for loud-mouthed assholes, not that loud-mouthed assholes are the norm for Christians. At least, that’s how I read him.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/50 "2005-06-24T20:12:34Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> It _does_ happen with regularity, and it is neither unique nor unusual. Still offensive, though, so you got that much right. However, I think **Lute** is trying to say that this sort of behavior is the norm for loud-mouthed assholes, not that loud-mouthed assholes are the norm for Christians. At least, that’s how I read him.

I kinda thought **Lib** was being gently sarcastic with his comment about its being the norm, anyway. Were you? I mean, obviously most Christians don’t go screaming foulness out the windows of their cars. That’s why I don’t pit 'em.

Daniel

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/51 "2005-06-24T20:23:20Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> I kinda thought **Lib** was being gently sarcastic with his comment about its being the norm, anyway. Were you? I mean, obviously most Christians don’t go screaming foulness out the windows of their cars. That’s why I don’t pit 'em.
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> Daniel

I’m tempted to when someone drives the wrong way down a narrow one-way parking lot lane at the mall, but I usually resist the urge.

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**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/52 "2005-06-24T20:27:09Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> I think **Lute** is trying to say that this sort of behavior is the norm for loud-mouthed assholes, not that loud-mouthed assholes are the norm for Christians. At least, that’s how I read him.

You read correctly.

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**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/53 "2005-06-24T21:38:52Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> I turned around, and as the SUV drove past, a woman with mirrored sunglasses leaned out of the driver’s window, face twisted into rage, and shouted, “Jesus hates dykes!” at us.

Been there (slightly different details), done that. Except I held enough composure to grab my crotch as the frat boys drove off.

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**Author:** ![gum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bbe5ce/32.png) [@gum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gum)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/54 "2005-06-24T21:59:59Z")

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I just hope Jesus will never visit the Netherlands.  
We have a _lot_ of dykes.

And if needed, we build another one.

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**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/55 "2005-06-24T23:22:17Z")

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Haven’t any of you seen [Jesus Christ: Vampire Hunter](http://www.odessafilmworks.com/jcvh/)? Jesus LOVES Dykes.

Especially if they’re in love with a biker vampire dyke.

Anyway, people who shout things out of cars are idiots, in general.

I’ve been called a dyke a few times…and I’m not even clean shaven.

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**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/56 "2005-06-24T23:33:10Z")

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Well, this is good news.

The “God hates fags” crowd is becoming conscious of gender-inclusion issues. ISTM it’s a step in the right direction.

Okay, okay, I’ll leave.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/57 "2005-06-24T23:46:05Z")

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Seriously, I noticed that Jerry Falwell no longer says that homosexuals are going to hell. He now says that gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are going to hell.

I suppose it’s a step up.

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**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/58 "2005-06-24T23:51:54Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> Seriously, I noticed that Jerry Falwell no longer says that homosexuals are going to hell. He now says that gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are going to hell.
> 
> I suppose it’s a step up.

I’m waiting for the day one of them stumbles and adds a “Not that there’s anything wrong with that.”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 24, 2005, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/59 "2005-06-24T23:54:19Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> Seriously, I noticed that Jerry Falwell no longer says that homosexuals are going to hell. He now says that gays, lesbians, and bisexuals are going to hell.
> 
> I suppose it’s a step up.

Apparently, transexuals are still in the clear.

FOR NOW!

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2005, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-hates-dykes/309679/60 "2005-06-25T00:25:03Z")

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> [@Left Hand of Dorkness](#):
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> I kinda thought **Lib** was being gently sarcastic with his comment about its being the norm, anyway. Were you? I mean, obviously most Christians don’t go screaming foulness out the windows of their cars. That’s why I don’t pit 'em.
> 
> Daniel

I meant the norm for homophobia. More often than not, it’s in the form of cowardly drive-bys and infantile snickers, rather than outright assaults. But the Christian angle of it made me think of my neighbor, and that recent late afternoon. Actually, I sort of wondered, when reading your story, whether they were Christian at all, but instead just punks pulling a double whammy — gay bashing and Jesus cursing.

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