# Jesus, I have to pit lissener.  Sorry, I know it's old, but he's being a jackass.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 21, 2008, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239 "2008-12-21T23:06:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/21 "2008-12-22T06:43:38Z")

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> [@Zhen\_ka](#):
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> OOOh, lissener, some big, fat ugly woman doesn’t take you seriously.
> 
> I’m sure you’ll survive.

The fuck?

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/22 "2008-12-22T07:11:00Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> **Equipose** is lissener’s BFF 4ever.

He’s got two admirers. **Cervaise** (inexplicably) seems to like him.

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**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/23 "2008-12-22T07:50:13Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> The fuck?

I think he’s dismissing **MsRobyn’s** personal opinion of **lissener** because she’s “a big, fat ugly woman”.

At least that’s the impression I got.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/24 "2008-12-22T08:32:13Z")

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I’m not ready to take sides yet because going from his quoted post in the OP **RickJay** seems to be the one who snarked first.

I know **lissener** has a history of being pitted but in this particular instance I’m not sure who was being the ass here.

Maybe you both were? 😕

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**Author:** ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/25 "2008-12-22T08:35:34Z")

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And here I thought **lissener** had been doing so much better lately…

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**Author:** ![Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Hazle\_Weatherfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hazle_Weatherfield)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/26 "2008-12-22T09:38:25Z")

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Patty Patty Buch Buch (pronounced beyewk, I guess!)

Eleanor I think you’re swelleanor!

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**Author:** ![Malacandra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Malacandra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malacandra)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/27 "2008-12-22T10:24:44Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> Ah, the appeal to popularity. I so miss it from high school, and it’s so impressive when it’s used here on the Dope.

Appeal To Popularity is not a fallacy when the question is one of an opinion on manners or socially acceptable conduct; it is a fallacy when the question is one of a matter of fact.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/28 "2008-12-22T12:08:52Z")

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> [@Zhen\_ka](#):
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> ps. Equipoise is a lame cunt.

Aw, I’m not so bad, am I? I can be kinda prickly sometimes, I’m equally hated by **Starving Artist** and **Miller** , **lissener’s** been a friend for almost 20 years (and yeah, I think most of his Pittings are pretty lame), and I talk about an obscure artist entirely too much for some people’s comfort (though hey, I haven’t even mentioned her name for months), but on the plus side, I never ever ever post TMI crap, and try to keep quiet about personal problems and don’t much go around woe-is-meeing (not casting aspirations on anyone who does). That’s gotta count for something.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/29 "2008-12-22T12:32:37Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> and I talk about an obscure artist entirely too much for some people’s comfort (though hey, I haven’t even mentioned her name for months)

I gotta say, I appreciate that too.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/30 "2008-12-22T16:46:47Z")

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Is Cher really “obscure”? Don’t keep up with pop culture much, but that surprises me…

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/31 "2008-12-22T16:53:53Z")

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_thwack_

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**Author:** ![Jester](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jester/32/8223_2.png) [@Jester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jester)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/32 "2008-12-22T18:15:21Z")

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I know that this is probably jinxing it and inciting a train wreck, but does this thread strike anybody else as pretty much the perfect Pit thread? **RickJay** comes in and says “I know this isn’t going to change anything, but **lissener** pissed me off” and vents, **lissener** comes in and states his case, everybody pretty much agrees that they’re both most likely a bit madder than they should be but that **lissener’s** been better lately, there’s some nice ribbing and ha-ha in-jokes, and that seems to kind of settle it. There’s even some random trollery by **Zhen’ka** that’s not even worth getting into a flamewar over.

So everybody gets to vent, some laughs are had, and folks just go along their merry way. A pretty little Pit picture.

…Except now that I’ve said it, somebody’s going to ruin everything and this will get to be an eight-page vitriol fest.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/33 "2008-12-22T18:23:47Z")

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FUCK YOU AND THAT CLOWN OUTFIT YOU JUGGLED IN ON! Don’t think for a minute those bells on your toes are going to get you off the hook! They’re cute, but there’s NO NICEY NICEY HERE! This is a PIT THREAD, dammit!

And your silly hat sucks.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/34 "2008-12-22T18:27:05Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Is Cher really “obscure”?

No, but we can hope, can’t we?

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/35 "2008-12-22T19:04:14Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Best female friend forever?  
> Best foxy friend forever?  
> Best Flemish friend forever?  
> Best fucking friend forever?

Best Friend Forever Forever.

Brought to you by the Department for Rendunant Redundancies Department.

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**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/36 "2008-12-22T20:28:06Z")

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> [@Jester](#):
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> I know that this is probably jinxing it and inciting a train wreck, but does this thread strike anybody else as pretty much the perfect Pit thread? **RickJay** comes in and says “I know this isn’t going to change anything, but **lissener** pissed me off” and vents, **lissener** comes in and states his case, everybody pretty much agrees that they’re both most likely a bit madder than they should be but that **lissener’s** been better lately, there’s some nice ribbing and ha-ha in-jokes, and that seems to kind of settle it. There’s even some random trollery by **Zhen’ka** that’s not even worth getting into a flamewar over.
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> So everybody gets to vent, some laughs are had, and folks just go along their merry way. A pretty little Pit picture.
> 
> …Except now that I’ve said it, somebody’s going to ruin everything and this will get to be an eight-page vitriol fest.

Which outcome is, in fact, the perfect Pit thread.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/37 "2008-12-23T01:54:05Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Aw, I’m not so bad, am I? I can be kinda prickly sometimes, I’m equally hated by **Starving Artist** and \*\*Miller[/B

I don’t hate you. I try to reserve hate for people like [Paul Bernardo](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Bernardo), Osama bin Laden (and others of his ilk who try to make political statements by committing terrorist acts and depriving innocent people of their lives) and, you know, people like that.

I respect and admire your your knowledge (and the sheer volume of it) when it comes to movies and music, and I respect the overriding intelligence that makes that knowledge possible.

But I also think you’re an illogical, hotheaded crackpot in other ways.

There is no one on this board, however, and most certainly not you, that I hate based on what I know of them so far. ( **Red Shirt** does come close though.)

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**Author:** ![Lazlo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lazlo/32/9678_2.png) [@Lazlo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lazlo)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/38 "2008-12-23T02:43:38Z")

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> [@Aesiron](#):
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> Best female friend forever?  
> Best foxy friend forever?  
> Best Flemish friend forever?  
> Best fucking friend forever?

The B stands for _best?_ Well, that explains that last awkward situation I was in…

Anyhow, I have a like/hate thing for the guy. When I read about what **lissener** enjoys listening to and why, I like him. When I read why he thinks someone else has the taste of a banana slug, I hate him. And in all fairness, I haven’t seen much of the latter at all lately.

The thing I can admire most is that he won’t give a shit about my opinion either way. 😛

(Note: I’m currently In Like status 'cause of [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=10596282&postcount=46).)

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/39 "2008-12-24T00:05:29Z")

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> [@kaylasdad99](#):
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> I had it explained to me once (by radio personalities Mark and Brian) that a “skit” is something that Cub Scouts do as entertainment at a Pack meeting.
> 
> **What highly-paid performers do** on a broadcast show is more properly termed a “sketch.”

Well, that rules out the cast of SNL.

And apart from that, Mark and Brian are full of shit. It’s just as properly a skit.

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2008, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-i-have-to-pit-lissener-sorry-i-know-its-old-but-hes-being-a-jackass/478239/40 "2008-12-24T00:41:02Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Is Cher really “obscure”? Don’t keep up with pop culture much, but that surprises me…

I thought he was talking about Mary Cassatt.

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