# Jesus: I'm not impressed. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 11, 2001, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798 "2001-10-11T14:13:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![El\_Zagna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d2c977/32.png) [@El\_Zagna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Zagna)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/101 "2001-10-12T21:41:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*\*Some say Lolo is incoherent, abrasive and illogical. > > Others maintain that he is a Troll. > > Discuss? \*\* OK. I’ll go with choice A, except that you left out arrogant. I really don’t think that Lolo knows what he means when he uses the term “impressed”. He’s been asked more than once to define it but hasn’t yet. I think what he is really trying to ask is “Do you really believe in this Jesus Christ, Son of God stuff?” Many of us have said that while we don’t believe the religous claims regarding Jesus we are still impressed by his impact on humanity. This seems to be a concept that Lolo just can’t grasp. Every year when Time’s Man-of-the-Year award comes out I see this same thing. There is always someone, perhaps our own Lolo, who writes in and says “So-and-so can’t be Man-of-the-Year! Look at all the bad things he’s done.” Some just seem to be unable to grasp the concept that influence and morality are not the same thing much like Lolo can’t understand that being impressed by someone isn’t the same thing as believing in him. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/102 "2001-10-12T21:41:46Z")
You know, there is a certain irony in all this. You would think a person would hardly _mention_ someone who leaves him so completely unimpressed, let alone go on and on and on and even start a thread about this nonimpressive individual. […scratching head…] ---
**Author:** ![Lolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@Lolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lolo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/103 "2001-10-12T21:47:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > \*\ ***Bricker** , > > I find your reasoning, as I’ve found other Christian reasoning, immeasurably short of impressing anyone who sin’t a WWF wrestling fanatic. > > Let’s see if we can make a fun analogy. > > “I’m not impressed by WWF wrestling.” > > “Even if you don’t believe it’s real, you gotta give it props. Think of the enormous fan base. Think about how many people close to the events think it’s real.” > > No, please, hold your applause. Seriously, I’m just a man. Oh, well, if you must cheer, set your hearts free! > > Good night! I’ll be here all week! \*\* ---
**Author:** ![Lolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@Lolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lolo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/104 "2001-10-12T21:50:02Z")
**I CANNOT BE A TROLL ON MY THREAD! MY, REAPEAT THAT, MY THREAD!** ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/105 "2001-10-12T21:57:16Z")
Wow. Trolling, avoiding questions, AND analogies that have no point. You can do it all, **Lolo**. ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/106 "2001-10-12T21:59:53Z")
Um…no, but you can be a troll by starting a thread with the intention of bugging people. ---
**Author:** ![Lolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@Lolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lolo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/107 "2001-10-12T22:01:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > \*\*I find Jesus unimpressive, as I find any end-of-the-world cut leader unimpressive. > > I find his supposed actions to be patent lies and false claims. > > I am positive he said almost nothing of what has been attributed to him. do you remember high school? Do you remember how a rumor never resembled anything close to the truth from the begining of a day to the end? Now, that was only a few hours of manipulation. Give it two thousand years, and suddenly people are walking on water and turning water into wine. > > I find it appalling to watch people support this supposed son of God, their only source of info a book, only to ignore parts of the book showing Jesus as nothing more than a common spiritual healing, demon casting evangelist. > > If you want to turn water into wine, you need grapes. > > If you want to walk on water, you need David Copperfield. > > Etc. > > and if you want to view the book as parables and allegories, than Jesus is as impressive as any white knight in any Disney cartoon. > > I am entertained by Jesus? I suppose I could be, if others didn’t take him so seriously, build a religion around him, and pretend he’s really the son of God. > > His story is simply the conflated myths of his time, taken seriously by far too many people. > > So, if I may, \*\* Jesus does not impress me.\*\* \*\* Is nothing of the above valid? ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/108 "2001-10-12T22:02:02Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > \*\ ***I CANNOT BE A TROLL ON MY THREAD! MY, REAPEAT THAT, MY THREAD!** \*\* Um, how so? ---
**Author:** ![Lolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@Lolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lolo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/109 "2001-10-12T22:06:50Z")
I would use this definition; affected especially forcibly or deeply and you people must give me some time to respond. I’m at work, I have to respond to several of you… Just be patient. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/110 "2001-10-12T22:08:22Z")
What is it exactly that you want us to do **Lolo**? Impress you? Tell you why we might be impressed with Jesus? (some people, both atheists and theists have already done so) Tell us what you want please, no more talk of fairy tales and vague stabs in the direction of religion etc. Either ask us for some sort of specific point to debate or make one yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Lolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@Lolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lolo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/111 "2001-10-12T22:12:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\* > > > [@](#): > > > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > > \*\ ***I CANNOT BE A TROLL ON MY THREAD! MY, REAPEAT THAT, MY THREAD!** \*\* > > Um, how so? \*\* B/c it’s my thread. If no one wants to be here, they can leave. I started the topic, all of **YOU** joined in. hence I am free from troll labeling ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/112 "2001-10-12T22:19:16Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > B/c it’s my thread. If no one wants to be here, they can leave. I started the topic, all of **YOU** joined in. > > hence I am free from troll labeling \*\* I think maybe you just define the term differently from most people around here. ---
**Author:** ![Lolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@Lolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lolo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/113 "2001-10-12T22:20:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mangetout \* > \*\*What is it exactly that you want us to do **Lolo**? > > Impress you? > Tell you why we might be impressed with Jesus? (some people, both atheists and theists have already done so) > > Tell us what you want please, no more talk of fairy tales and vague stabs in the direction of religion etc. > > Either ask us for some sort of specific point to debate or make one yourself. \*\* I don’t exactly want anything. I wanted other people to tell me why they were impressed, while I said why I wasn’t. That’s all. I think the real problem is people were expecting (ahem ahem) a GREAT DEBATE, since we are here in the GD forum. This however is not a debate at all, just a few opinions being tossed about. I was more in the mood for a bit more humor, and some anger ;), than an actual debate. Being at work and all, there’s only so much time to dedicate to message boards and I was actually busy today. I’m done now. I posted my reasons, and like I said, they were dismissed. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/114 "2001-10-12T22:23:20Z")
Definitely not the best choice of forum in that case, perhaps should have been the pit or MPSIMS. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/115 "2001-10-12T22:24:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > I find Jesus unimpressive, as I find any end-of-the-world cut leader unimpressive… Is nothing of the above valid? Apparently it’s valid to you, but I’m unimpressed by it. 😃 BTW, are you named after that little “cue ball” with arms and legs in a electronic game that tries to solve puzzles? ---
**Author:** ![Lolo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f475e1/32.png) [@Lolo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lolo)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/116 "2001-10-12T22:26:24Z")
answer me that. were you all not entertained? My work is done here. still not impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Edlyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8797f3/32.png) [@Edlyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edlyn)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/117 "2001-10-12T22:27:32Z")
Sorry Lib. The above is my post, not his! ---
**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/118 "2001-10-12T22:30:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > \*\*I don’t exactly want anything. > I wanted other people to tell me why they were impressed, while I said why I wasn’t. That’s all. > > I think the real problem is people were expecting (ahem ahem) a GREAT DEBATE, since we are here in the GD forum. This however is not a debate at all, just a few opinions being tossed about.\*\* Then try posting in the IMHO forum, where it specifically states that that is the place for polling. You have once again confirmed your feeble intellect to me. > [@](#): > > \*\*I was more in the mood for a bit more humor, and some anger ;), than an actual debate. Being at work and all, there’s only so much time to dedicate to message boards and I was actually busy today. I’m done now. > > I posted my reasons, and like I said, they were dismissed. \*\* So once again, you admit that your only purpose was to anger people for your own amusement. You are a troll. Go away. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/119 "2001-10-12T23:14:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > **My work is done here.** :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![More\_Cowbell](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b5a626/32.png) [@More\_Cowbell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/More_Cowbell)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2001, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798/120 "2001-10-12T23:17:06Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Lolo \* > \*\*answer me that. were you all not entertained? > > My work is done here. > > still not impressed. \*\* Annoyed? Slightly Entertained? Not in the least. BTW, I asked for YOUR definition of impressed, not Merriam-Webster’s defintion (which is what you posted verbatim). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-im-not-impressed/86798.md?page=7)