# Jesus, is this supposed to be a Christening? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 19, 2019, 1:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283 "2019-07-19T01:49:50Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/41 "2019-07-24T14:19:45Z")
> [@thorny\_locust](#): > > He’s moving the baby rapidly up and down while not supporting the baby’s head. Not only that, but he repeatedly comes close to slamming the baby’s head or legs against the side (or on the upper edge) of the punch bowl. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/42 "2019-07-24T18:06:08Z")
> [@Machine\_Elf](#): > > Not only that, but he repeatedly comes close to slamming the baby’s head or legs against the side (or on the upper edge) of the punch bowl. You can’t make a good punch without cracking a few skulls. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/43 "2019-07-24T18:39:46Z")
Yep, you should see what is required when they need to baptize an adult in a similar manner. They first have to strip them, then it requires about 4-5 men to grab the person to forcefully dunk them the required three times. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/44 "2019-07-24T18:58:51Z")
The adult version utilizes a burlap sack and aluminum baseball bats. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/45 "2019-07-24T19:02:05Z")
> [@bobot](#): > > The adult version utilizes a burlap sack and aluminum baseball bats. I prefer the sound of a wood bat. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 24, 2019, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/46 "2019-07-24T21:21:56Z")
Baptism hasn’t been the same since the designated sinner rule. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/47 "2019-07-26T15:32:17Z")
> [@Railer13](#): > > I’ve never seen one, but [here’s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQzHH7qMqSs)a video of a baptism. Note the infant is submerged three times, but it’s done quite gently. It is a lot more gentle but, man is that one tiny baby. Does the baptism have to be done before eight days, like bris? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/48 "2019-07-26T16:11:25Z")
My brother went Russian Orthodox because it was “closer to the original Church,” but I don’t think John the Baptist woulda done it that way. ---
**Author:** ![Railer13](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/railer13/32/9742_2.png) [@Railer13](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Railer13)\ **Post date:** [July 26, 2019, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/49 "2019-07-26T16:24:50Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > It is a lot more gentle but, man is that one tiny baby. Does the baptism have to be done before eight days, like bris? [This](https://www.blessedcelebration.com/All_About_Orthodox_Baptisms_s/14.htm#Age%20for%20baptism) states that the baptism should take place between the ages of 4 and 12 months. And [this](https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/328992-baptism-different-orthodox-catholic) says that infants are ‘usually older than 8 days.’ Anybody know for sure? ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/50 "2019-07-27T04:11:34Z")
> [@Locrian](#): > > EMWIGMT. I give up: what does that mean? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/51 "2019-07-27T09:57:38Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > I give up: what does that mean? Excuse Me While I Grind My Teeth. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_McQwark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Steve\_McQwark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_McQwark)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/52 "2019-07-27T14:35:18Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Excuse Me While I Grind My Teeth. Worst “Purple Haze” mondegreen ever. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/53 "2019-07-27T15:22:52Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Excuse Me While I Grind My Teeth. I see. Thank you. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/54 "2019-07-27T16:41:56Z")
> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#): > > Excuse Me While I Grind My Teeth. OK, but what does it _mean_? ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/55 "2019-07-27T19:28:52Z")
Okay, so that video almost made me cry. Thanks a lot, OP. ---
**Author:** ![not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_what_you_d_expect/32/3246_2.png) [@not\_what\_you\_d\_expect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_what_you_d_expect)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/56 "2019-07-27T19:35:01Z")
I’m sorry. It affected me too. I would like to know it the baby is ok. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2019, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/57 "2019-07-27T21:51:39Z")
As horrifying as that video is, there are way too many people who can see the violence of that ritual and not be bothered by it one little bit. All because the guy who committed that violence was wearing pretty robes and has a fancy title. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/58 "2019-07-28T00:26:47Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Which to me is a weird label for what they actually say, which is that they cant verify the video, but that infant submersion baptisms are a thing, and that there is a trend to do them quickly in mass baptisms. > > That’s not a mixture where some aspects are true and others are false. Since they use words for their raitings, not symbols, I don’t see any reason they couldn’t use more: “Unverified video, but real practice.” So we still don’t know that this is a real video of an actual baptism. ---
**Author:** ![you\_with\_the\_face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ecccb3/32.png) [@you\_with\_the\_face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/you_with_the_face)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/59 "2019-07-28T00:50:27Z")
> [@monstro](#): > > As horrifying as that video is, there are way too many people who can see the violence of that ritual and not be bothered by it one little bit. All because the guy who committed that violence was wearing pretty robes and has a fancy title. That adds to the horror. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2019, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283/60 "2019-07-28T01:58:01Z")
So, I finally watched it. Holy shit! I hope the kid was okay. > [@monstro](#): > > As horrifying as that video is, there are way too many people who can see the violence of that ritual and not be bothered by it one little bit. All because the guy who committed that violence was wearing pretty robes and has a fancy title. I think you are overly anti-religion here. The people in the background of that video look shocked and upset – those would be the people who hire people like him to baptize infants. There’s nothing in the ritual that has to be violent. There were links upthread to infant baptisms that looked no more violent than a cool bath. It’s not like it’s intrinsically violent to submerge a baby in water. This guy was violent because… I have no idea, actually. Maybe he knows nothing at all about babies and was trying to be dramatic. Maybe he’s a child abuser on purpose. Either way, he shouldn’t be allowed to do baptisms. But I don’t see that as an indictment of baptisms, just of him. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-is-this-supposed-to-be-a-christening/837283.md?page=4)