# Jesus, Larry!  Curb Your Enthusiasm 10/25/09

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 26, 2009, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178 "2009-10-26T14:29:30Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 14\
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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/21 "2009-10-29T04:00:37Z")

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Muslims get bashed 24/7 on right wing radio. I never hear offenderati Christians ever complaining about any other religious view but their own being criticized.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/22 "2009-10-29T04:20:46Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Muslims get bashed 24/7 on right wing radio. I never hear offenderati Christians ever complaining about any other religious view but their own being criticized.

No they don’t. Muslim terrorists, on the other hand, are looked down upon by right wing radio.

The last time someone came close to insulting Islam was Pat Robertson who compared the people who wanted to wipe Israel off the map to Hitler. That caused riots around the world. If he urinated on a symbol of Islam it would have been infinitely worse.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/23 "2009-10-29T04:22:24Z")

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I listen to right wing radio a lot during the day. Muslims, as a whole, are bashed non-stop. So are atheists.

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**Author:** ![2ply](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/b2d939/32.png) [@2ply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ply)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/24 "2009-10-29T04:47:50Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> The episode didn’t mock Christianity. It wasn’t like he pissed on the painting on purpose. If anything, the episode just mocked the kind of morons who think they see Jesus and Mary in every piece of fruit or piss stain on an underpass.

The show’s made fun of that frevan brand of Christianity before through Cheryl’s family. Being a 60 year old American Jew, Larry would have had that thrown in his face a lot.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/25 "2009-10-29T04:56:47Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> I listen to right wing radio a lot during the day. Muslims, as a whole, are bashed non-stop. So are atheists.

If they did, all hell would break loose. There is a significant difference between bashing Muslim terrorists and bashing the religion of Islam.

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**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/26 "2009-10-29T05:14:21Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> If they did, all hell would break loose. There is a significant difference between bashing Muslim terrorists and bashing the religion of Islam.

Just as there is a significant difference between bashing certain Christian idiots (which, as **Dio** pointed out, is what this episode did) and bashing the religion of Christianity.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/27 "2009-10-29T06:16:40Z")

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> [@woodstockbirdybird](#):
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> Just as there is a significant difference between bashing certain Christian idiots (which, as **Dio** pointed out, is what this episode did) and bashing the religion of Christianity.

Your comparison doesn’t make sense. Are you suggesting that slaming Islamic terrorists for murdering people is the same as making fun of Christians who believe in miracles? How do you think peeing on an image of Jesus is anything but an insult to every Christian?

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**Author:** ![BrandonR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/779978/32.png) [@BrandonR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrandonR)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/28 "2009-10-29T13:19:47Z")

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> [@Magiver](#):
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> Your comparison doesn’t make sense. Are you suggesting that slaming Islamic terrorists for murdering people is the same as making fun of Christians who believe in miracles? How do you think peeing on an image of Jesus is anything but an insult to every Christian?

Because the joke was not that he peed on the painting, but that people then thought the painting of Jesus was crying, as foolish people have thought time and time again. Since not all Christians are gullible enough to believe in ridiculous miracles, he clearly wasn’t insulting all Christians.

And really, there are a lot more offensive things that one can do than urinate on a replica of what a group of people, thousands of years ago, thinks Jesus may have possibly looked like.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 1:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/29 "2009-10-29T13:25:17Z")

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And it isn’t just “terrorists” that get slammed in the right wing media, it’s all Muslims and all atheists.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/30 "2009-10-29T17:30:42Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> And it isn’t just “terrorists” that get slammed in the right wing media, it’s all Muslims and all atheists.

Cite? I’ve heard all the major radio show hosts specifically explain the difference between terrorists and the Islamic religion. If condeming terrorist acts is wrong then you have to start with every President and work your way down.

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**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/31 "2009-10-29T17:43:42Z")

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I would suggest, respectfully, and at the risk of junior modding, that a general discussion about right wing talk regarding Muslims and terrorists be moved to GD or BBQ.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/32 "2009-10-29T17:45:17Z")

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> [@BrandonR](#):
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> Because the joke was not that he peed on the painting, but that people then thought the painting of Jesus was crying, as foolish people have thought time and time again. Since not all Christians are gullible enough to believe in ridiculous miracles, he clearly wasn’t insulting all Christians.
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> And really, there are a lot more offensive things that one can do than urinate on a replica of what a group of people, thousands of years ago, thinks Jesus may have possibly looked like.

The insult is peeing on a religous icon. It is also insulting to make fun of people’s beliefs. It is a contradiction to think a belief in a miracle would be any different than other aspects of a religion and therefore OK to ridicule. The fact remains that Christians are considered fair game because it’s safe to do so and Muslims are off limits because people would die in the riots that follow. It is the double standard that people most object to on this board.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/33 "2009-10-29T17:46:32Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> I would suggest, respectfully, and at the risk of junior modding, that a general discussion about right wing talk regarding Muslims and terrorists be moved to GD or BBQ.

Agreed. I’m done.

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**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2009, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-larry-curb-your-enthusiasm-10-25-09/515178/34 "2009-10-29T20:55:27Z")

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Oh for God’s sake. He didn’t “pee on” a painting of Jesus. He peed into the toilet and it splashed up, and Larry being Larry couldn’t bring himself to touch the droplet. That is a completely different scenario than him seeing a painting of Jesus and thinking “I’m going to urinate on that.” One is deliberate & offensive, one is accidental and humorous. What the fuck do Muslims have to do with anything!?

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