# Jesus loves bin Laden more than you love your children. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 30, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305 "2008-10-30T19:42:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f14d63/32.png) [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jesus_Harold_Christ)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/1 "2008-10-30T19:42:34Z")
Would Christians accept the belief that Jesus loves bin Laden more than it is possible for a parent to love his child? ---
**Author:** ![Phlosphr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c68b51/32.png) [@Phlosphr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phlosphr)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/2 "2008-10-30T19:44:43Z")
> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#): > > Would Christians accept the belief that Jesus loves bin Laden more than it is possible for a parent to love his child? If their smart they’d ask for a definition of _more_. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/3 "2008-10-30T19:45:32Z")
Probably. My kids are little heathens. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/4 "2008-10-30T19:45:55Z")
IANAChristian, but it seems to me that this is a no-brainer. God is Love, God loves all sinners, God’s love is perfect, therefore God’s love for any person, no matter how great a sinner, is by definition greater than the love any imperfect human can feel for anyone or anything, no matter how dear. [/christianthink] Is there anything even slightly controversial or edgy about this proposition? Or am I just missing your point? ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/5 "2008-10-30T19:49:18Z")
Isn’t it generally accepted that He loves everyone more than a parent loves a child? ETA: **Kimstu** beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/6 "2008-10-30T19:56:19Z")
I guess he loves everyone more than a parent could possibly love a child, he just wants to send some of them to a special place of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for them to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. ---
**Author:** ![Dumbguy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@Dumbguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dumbguy)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/7 "2008-10-30T19:59:19Z")
Apples and oranges. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/8 "2008-10-30T20:01:43Z")
The ‘god is love’ thing gets thrown around a lot, but does it have any scriptural basis? In short- Cite? ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/9 "2008-10-30T20:10:09Z")
> [@Furious Marmot](#): > > The ‘god is love’ thing gets thrown around a lot, but does it have any scriptural basis? In short- Cite? 1 John 4:8: > [@](#): > > Whoever does not love does not know God, because God is love. (I loves me some Bible Gateway! It’s, like, BibleSnopes or BibleDope.) ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/10 "2008-10-30T20:10:17Z")
1 John 4:7-8. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/11 "2008-10-30T20:19:20Z")
> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#): > > Would Christians accept the belief that Jesus loves bin Laden more than it is possible for a parent to love his child? Probably; they tend to be big on self hatred. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/12 "2008-10-30T20:29:33Z")
> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#): > > Would Christians accept the belief that Jesus loves bin Laden more than it is possible for a parent to love his child? Wouldn’t surprise me. Dude always was kinda gay. ---
**Author:** ![Furious\_Marmot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/dfb087/32.png) [@Furious\_Marmot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Furious_Marmot)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/13 "2008-10-30T20:40:25Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > 1 John 4:8: > > (I loves me some Bible Gateway! It’s, like, BibleSnopes or BibleDope.) Thanks. I had always assumed it was new-agey crap. ---
**Author:** ![ivan\_astikov](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@ivan\_astikov](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivan_astikov)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/14 "2008-10-30T20:43:18Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Wouldn’t surprise me. Dude always was kinda gay. The open-toed sandals gave it away. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/15 "2008-10-30T21:01:56Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > I guess he loves everyone more than a parent could possibly love a child, he just wants to send some of them to a special place of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for them to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But only if they fall in love with someone of the same sex. Or eat shrimp. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/16 "2008-10-30T21:07:11Z")
An angel doesn’t MAKE love; an angel IS love! ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/17 "2008-10-30T21:15:12Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > I guess he loves everyone more than a parent could possibly love a child, he just wants to send some of them to a special place of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for them to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. It’s part of the meaningless of unconditional love. He loves you if you are good or bad; he loves you if he rewards or torments you. It has no connection to your behavior or his, being unconditional. Unconditional love, to be blunt, is nuts. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/18 "2008-10-30T21:18:25Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > I guess he loves everyone more than a parent could possibly love a child, he just wants to send some of them to a special place of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for them to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. But he’s also a just God. Justice trumps love. That’s what many believe anyhow. ---
**Author:** ![Roderick\_Femm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/roderick_femm/32/14875_2.png) [@Roderick\_Femm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roderick_Femm)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/19 "2008-10-30T21:18:47Z")
> [@ivan\_astikov](#): > > The open-toed sandals gave it away. Only because they allowed you to see his pedicure. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/20 "2008-10-30T22:48:20Z")
> [@CurtC](#): > > I guess he loves everyone more than a parent could possibly love a child, he just wants to send some of them to a special place of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish for them to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end of time. That’s his pop. Junior is all hugs, lollipops, kitty cats, & joints. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305.md?page=2)