# Jesus loves bin Laden more than you love your children. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 30, 2008, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305 "2008-10-30T19:42:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/21 "2008-10-30T22:55:06Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > He loves you if you are good or bad; he loves you if he rewards or torments you. He also sees you when you’re sleeping, and knows when you’re awake. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/22 "2008-10-30T22:58:12Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Unconditional love, to be blunt, is nuts. It’s not nuts - it’s just irrelevent. It’s feel-good stuff for people who want to be loved, that doesn’t interfere with the fact that God is a bad mofo who _will_ take you out back and work you over forever if you have a hair out of line. They’re two different narratives that exist for different purposes and are declared not to interfere with each other. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2008, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/23 "2008-10-30T23:20:52Z")
> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#): > > Would Christians accept the belief that Jesus loves bin Laden more than it is possible for a parent to love his child? Jesus is Jesus. I am just a man. As a man I know all about hate and am not always able to keep it at bay. Knowing what God would do is far beyond my limited mentality. I like to believe I am a Christian although I fail to do the right thing every day. Answer your question? ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/24 "2008-10-31T00:39:15Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > It’s not nuts - it’s just irrelevent. It’s feel-good stuff for people who want to be loved, that doesn’t interfere with the fact that God is a bad mofo who _will_ take you out back and work you over forever if you have a hair out of line. They’re two different narratives that exist for different purposes and are declared not to interfere with each other. That’s because religion denies the need for even self consistency. If you actually take this seriously, yes, it’s nuts, and exceedingly creepy as well. Serial killer creepy. “Oh, I love you, I love you soooo much . . . and LOOK, the hot coals and acid are ready !” ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/25 "2008-10-31T01:04:23Z")
> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#): > > Would Christians accept the belief that Jesus loves bin Laden more than it is possible for a parent to love his child? Probably. What’s the purpose of asking though? ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 1:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/26 "2008-10-31T01:16:22Z")
[QUOTE= Der Trihs] “Oh, I love you, I love you soooo much . . . and LOOK, the hot coals and acid are ready !” [/QUOTE] …ah’ll be in mah bunk. ---
**Author:** ![toadspittle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c0e974/32.png) [@toadspittle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/toadspittle)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/27 "2008-10-31T04:08:03Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Probably. My kids are little heathens. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/28 "2008-10-31T04:40:11Z")
> [@](#): > > **Der Trihs** : That’s because religion denies the need for even self consistency. If you actually take this seriously, yes, it’s nuts, and exceedingly creepy as well. Serial killer creepy. “Oh, I love you, I love you soooo much . . . and LOOK, the hot coals and acid are ready !” That’s why many Christians don’t believe in hell. > [@](#): > > **The Flying Dutchman** : But he’s also a just God. Justice trumps love. That’s what many believe anyhow. Mercy, mercy me! ---
**Author:** ![Cider\_Depot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Cider\_Depot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cider_Depot)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/29 "2008-10-31T04:48:12Z")
Could God create a person so contemptible that he himself could not love? ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/30 "2008-10-31T15:25:40Z")
> [@Zoe](#): > > Mercy, mercy me! Things ain’t what they used to be. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/31 "2008-10-31T15:29:41Z")
Well, if it helps, my three-year-old told me the other day that he loves Jesus more than me and Mommy. So Jesus must be doing something right. ---
**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/32 "2008-10-31T16:10:25Z")
> [@Skammer](#): > > Well, if it helps, my three-year-old told me the other day that he loves Jesus more than me and Mommy. So Jesus must be doing something right. Remember he said that next time he asks for a toy. “Maybe your Jesus will buy that for you one day.” ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/33 "2008-10-31T16:48:42Z")
> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#): > > Would Christians accept the belief that Jesus loves bin Laden more than it is possible for a parent to love his child? There are different kinds of love; I mean, Jesus isn’t having sex with bin Laden. Uh, I mean, wait a second… ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/34 "2008-10-31T17:29:59Z")
Well, my kids don’t exist. And… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/35 "2008-10-31T17:36:12Z")
> [@Lobsang](#): > > Well, my kids don’t exist. And… Jesus used to exist. Your children may exist in the future, unless you have fertility issues I don’t know about. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/36 "2008-10-31T19:29:43Z")
Yes. They would. I wouldn’t, necessarily, but some Christians would. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/37 "2008-10-31T19:31:52Z")
> [@Pochacco](#): > > An angel doesn’t MAKE love; an angel IS love! There’s your answer to the thread, folks. It’s obviously “Rio” by Durand Durand. ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [October 31, 2008, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305/38 "2008-10-31T19:44:48Z")
> [@Jesus\_Harold\_Christ](#): > > Would Christians accept the belief that Jesus loves bin Laden more than it is possible for a parent to love his child? I believe so; yes. This would mean that Jesus is more grieved at bin Laden’s sin and malice than a parent would be at anything his/her child might do, and that Jesus would rejoice more if bin Laden were to repent and become reconciled to God and to the rest of the people God loves, than a parent could be at any reconciliation with his/her child. [QUOTE=Romans 5:7-8] Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us. [/QUOTE] [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-loves-bin-laden-more-than-you-love-your-children/470305.md?page=1)