# Jesus-merciful-fuck, Stoid is a freaking dipshit.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 12, 2010, 9:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875 "2010-12-12T09:51:09Z")\
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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/61 "2010-12-13T05:22:45Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I disagree. He’s easy to understand. He’s saying he doesn’t like Wikipedia, and prefers the Encyclopedia Britanica, but has learned not to say anything about it because it will just make people upset.
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> He’s also saying that he thinks that there is a philosophical discussion about truth\* that he can’t really talk about here, either, without being ridiculed for his position. The same philosophical discussion Stoid was trying to have in the GD v GQ thread.
> 
> Oh, and that he used to be as annoying as Stoid until he stumbled on his definition of truth.
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> ETA: \*That most likely involves something about whether truth is consensus based or absolute, with Wikipedia standing for the former, while the EB stands for the latter.

Jesus. Do ever really wonder why the nonnies refer to you as BigTard?

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**Author:** ![Pullet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Pullet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pullet)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/62 "2010-12-13T05:30:02Z")

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> [@Kozmik](#):
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> What about understanding **AngryLittleGirl**? See: [Truth](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfc8uGAWr90&feature=related).  
> She would make an awesome Doper. 😃

Membership is not awarded based on how much you would like to boik the applicant. Thank goodness.

No offense to AngryLittleGirl, she seems fine in a self-righteous teenager with a video blog way. But, your linking to her twice reeks of Creepy Old Man.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/63 "2010-12-13T05:40:01Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Jesus. Do ever really wonder why the nonnies refer to you as BigTard?

General sexual inadequacy on behalf of the nonnies?

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/64 "2010-12-13T05:43:56Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> General sexual inadequacy on behalf of the nonnies?

In a LOT of circumstances you’d be right, but I think the Nonnies are spot on with this one. Spot. On.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/65 "2010-12-13T05:48:56Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Jesus. Do ever really wonder why the nonnies refer to you as BigTard?

I don’t wonder. Nonnies are rather stupid people, who don’t have the intelligence or integrity to actually Pit people. They like to make themselves feel better by making fun of other people, so they can feel better about themselves. But they don’t even have the decency to do so where people can see them.

I mean, despite being reminded repeatedly the purpose of the nicknames on that site, they continue to use one that is easily searched for. They can’t stay on a topic for longer than two seconds, and despite trying to be funny very rarely are.

I honestly don’t give the slightest bit of credence to what anyone on that board thinks of me. If anything, I enjoy it when they say bad things about me. I occasionally go there myself and actively encourage it.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/66 "2010-12-13T05:55:21Z")

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> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#):
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> In a LOT of circumstances you’d be right, but I think the Nonnies are spot on with this one. Spot. On.

Seeing as the post quoted had nothing to do with why they labeled me as such, I’m not sure your point. I was so-labeled for the crap I did in ATMB where I wouldn’t listen to anyone else’s opinions because I was upset.

It never had anything to do with my desire to explain things that don’t need explaining. But, if that’s what keeps it going, I’d be happy to do it in cases when I’m not calling the post I’m responding to stupid.

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**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/67 "2010-12-13T06:01:06Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I disagree. He’s easy to understand. He’s saying he doesn’t like Wikipedia, and prefers the Encyclopedia Britanica, but has learned not to say anything about it because it will just make people upset.

Wow.

> [@BigT](#):
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> He’s also saying that he thinks that there is a philosophical discussion about truth\* that he can’t really talk about here, either, without being ridiculed for his position. The same philosophical discussion Stoid was trying to have in the GD v GQ thread.

Yes.

> [@BigT](#):
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> Oh, and that he used to be as annoying as Stoid until he stumbled on his definition of truth.

Yes! His ( **Kozmik** ’s) definition of truth. Her (\*\*AngryLittleGirl’\*\*s) definition of truth.

> [@BigT](#):
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> ETA: \*That most likely involves something about whether truth is consensus based or absolute, with Wikipedia standing for the former, while the EB stands for the latter.

Yes. Exactly! But why we need **both** definitions of truth (Kozmik’s and AngryLittleGirl’s). That would not necessarily be a controversial debate.

It’s like having eclectic music tastes. There’s MTV, there’s YouTube, and then there’s iTunes. And why I’m mentioning this, I don’t know, but All That was the best SNL-type show ever in my opinion. When I get through this, ok, then I might start a thread on that. But if someone else does, that’s ok, too. I just got a littleangry when others kept relentlessly attacking **Stoid** and then pitting her. Uncalled for. But, as I said, I’m going to get through this, also.

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**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/68 "2010-12-13T06:08:29Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> Seeing as the post quoted had nothing to do with why they labeled me as such, I’m not sure your point. I was so-labeled for the crap I did in ATMB where I wouldn’t listen to anyone else’s opinions because I was upset.
> 
> It never had anything to do with my desire to explain things that don’t need explaining. But, if that’s what keeps it going, I’d be happy to do it in cases when I’m not calling the post I’m responding to stupid.

I don’t think it has to do with just the ATMB posts. Not by a long shot.

Still, this why steal the glory from **Stoid** by hijacking her justly deserved pitting.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/69 "2010-12-13T06:15:37Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I don’t wonder. Nonnies are rather stupid people, who don’t have the intelligence or integrity to actually Pit people.

Neither do you.

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> They like to make themselves feel better by making fun of other people, so they can feel better about themselves. But they don’t even have the decency to do so where people can see them.:smack:

What the fuck is “decent” about publicly pitting someone?

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> I mean, despite being reminded repeatedly the purpose of the nicknames on that site, they continue to use one that is easily searched for.

Where the hell did you get the idea that the purpose of referring to you as BigTard was to make it hard to search for posts about you? You really are retarded.

> [@](#):
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> They can’t stay on a topic for longer than two seconds, and despite trying to be funny very rarely are.

Gotta disagree with you there.

> [@](#):
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> I honestly don’t give the slightest bit of credence to what anyone on that board thinks of me. If anything, I enjoy it when they say bad things about me. I occasionally go there myself and actively encourage it.

Trolling the shit out of us, huh?

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/70 "2010-12-13T06:16:11Z")

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> [@splatterpunk](#):
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> Jesus. Do ever really wonder why the nonnies refer to you as BigTard?

Aren’t they the ones sitting off at their own little region, whining about how _faaaat_ and how _uuuuuglyyyyy_ the people saying interesting things are?

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/71 "2010-12-13T06:22:13Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> Aren’t they the ones sitting off at their own little region, whining about how _faaaat_ and how _uuuuuglyyyyy_ the people saying interesting things are?

Saying interesting things? You sure about that?

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**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/72 "2010-12-13T06:38:35Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> I disagree. He’s easy to understand. He’s saying he doesn’t like Wikipedia, and prefers the Encyclopedia Britanica, but has learned not to say anything about it because it will just make people upset.
> 
> He’s also saying that he thinks that there is a philosophical discussion about truth\* that he can’t really talk about here, either, without being ridiculed for his position. The same philosophical discussion Stoid was trying to have in the GD v GQ thread.
> 
> Oh, and that he used to be as annoying as Stoid until he stumbled on his definition of truth.
> 
> ETA: \*That most likely involves something about whether truth is consensus based or absolute, with Wikipedia standing for the former, while the EB stands for the latter.

Great translation! Where’d you learn to speak Kozmik?

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/73 "2010-12-13T06:56:11Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> Great translation! Where’d you learn to speak Kozmik?

[June Cleaver]  
Excuse me, stewardess, I speak Batshit.  
[/June Cleaver]

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/74 "2010-12-13T07:04:33Z")

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I think I see the outlines of a compromise here. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall get whats coming to them…

**Stoid** agrees to accept that some Posters find her disagreeable, vexatious, and an all around no-goodnik. That exposure to her mindset adversely affects their universal plenum of discourse. As dire as this fact may be to her self-esteem and karmic integrity, she agrees to try to find the strength to go on, somehow.

She must commit, however, to display her username in a prominent and unmistakable location, so that innocently meandering attention is not needlessly soiled. (I think somewhere towards the top would be best.)

Being so warned, posters who find her disagreeable are advised they can simply pick up their little basket and skip along, skip along. Of course, in so doing, they agree to forfeit any opportunity to complain, bitch, bellyache, or piss and moan.

Such an agreement would, if strictly adhered to, promote peaceful harmony and respectful intercourse here on the Board, and thus hasten the eventual enlightenment of all sentient beings. Albeit in a minor, insignificant way.

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**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/75 "2010-12-13T07:12:40Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I think I see the outlines of a compromise here. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall get whats coming to them…
> 
> **Stoid** agrees to accept that some Posters find her disagreeable, vexatious, and an all around no-goodnik. That exposure to her mindset adversely affects their universal plenum of discourse. As dire as this fact may be to her self-esteem and karmic integrity, she agrees to try to find the strength to go on, somehow.
> 
> She must commit, however, to display her username in a prominent and unmistakable location, so that innocently meandering attention is not needlessly soiled. (I think somewhere towards the top would be best.)
> 
> Being so warned, posters who find her disagreeable are advised they can simply pick up their little basket and skip along, skip along. Of course, in so doing, they agree to forfeit any opportunity to complain, bitch, bellyache, or piss and moan.
> 
> Such an agreement would, if strictly adhered to, promote peaceful harmony and respectful intercourse here on the Board, and thus hasten the eventual enlightenment of all sentient beings. Albeit in a minor, insignificant way.

Why would anyone but **Stoid** agree to this?

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**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/76 "2010-12-13T07:41:00Z")

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> [@John\_DiFool](#):
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> Yet that surely doesn’t describe her opponents in said thread at all either. Got it.

No, it doesn’t, because the description is reliant on them being, you know, _wrong_.

It’s the difference between being 100% sure the Earth is flat and being 100% sure the Earth is round.

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**Author:** ![auRa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c4cdca/32.png) [@auRa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/auRa)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 8:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/77 "2010-12-13T08:16:24Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I think I see the outlines of a compromise here. Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall get whats coming to them…

Yay!

> [@](#):
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> **Stoid** agrees to accept

…And there’s your problem.

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**Author:** ![Meyer6](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/cc9497/32.png) [@Meyer6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meyer6)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/78 "2010-12-13T11:01:40Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Being so warned, posters who find her disagreeable are advised they can simply pick up their little basket and skip along, skip along. Of course, in so doing, they agree to forfeit any opportunity to complain, bitch, bellyache, or piss and moan.

There’s always somebody who comes into these kind of pit threads and says, in essence, “why don’t you just ignore it if you don’t like it?”. I’m sure this seems very clever, but it ignores several key facts:

1. It’s enjoyable to share complaints about someone who is acting like a tool. You can’t tell me you’ve never engaged in some recreational bitching about, say, a coworker.

2. Due to board rules, people can’t always say what needs to be said in other threads. Why should someone like **Stoid** get to act like a smug bastard without comment?

3. **Stoid** herself refuses to play by your rules. She is quite happy to fling insults around, both towards general classes of people and towards specific dopers. It’s not like she was just minding her business and she was suddenly pitted out of the blue. Why should people let her insult them and just turn a blind eye to it?

4. On a board dedicated to fighting ignorance, why should we let poor debating and misinformation stand?

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**Author:** ![ColdPhoenix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@ColdPhoenix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ColdPhoenix)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/79 "2010-12-13T12:45:12Z")

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I looked at the linked threads in the OP but gave up both of them after barely getting 1% of the way through the OPs.

Has anyone actually read one of those posts in it’s entirety?!

> [@Fell\_through\_the\_Ice](#):
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> I gave up reading any of her posts after Stoid, who admits she is obese, shrilly denied that for almost everyone, weight loss can be accomplished by eating less and exercising more.

Suddenly her involvement in porn is a lot less enticing.

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**Author:** ![AHunter3](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ahunter3/32/368_2.png) [@AHunter3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AHunter3)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-merciful-fuck-stoid-is-a-freaking-dipshit/563875/80 "2010-12-13T13:55:18Z")

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[QUOTE=John DiFool]

[QUOTE=Elysian]

Stoid just can’t agree with other people’s opinions. She has her basic ideas set out in her head to start with, and no matter how very obviously wrong she is or how knowledgeable or persuasive her opponents are she won’t budge an inch from what she has already decided is true. She will prevaricate or cavil at all objections or she will just stonewall.  
[/quote]

Yet that surely doesn’t describe her opponents in said thread at all either. Got it.  
[/quote]

> [@Grumman](#):
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> No, it doesn’t, because the description is reliant on them being, you know, _wrong_.
> 
> It’s the difference between being 100% sure the Earth is flat and being 100% sure the Earth is round.

When discussing _how_ one debates, being right versus being wrong is entirely irrelevant. If your debating tactics are inappropriate, they remain inappropriate even when your opponent is taking the position that the Earth is flat as a pancake. If your debating tactics are fair and you seem to give consideration to competing / contrasting ideas, you remain a fair and considerate debater even when you are arguing that the Earth is flat and that folks who think it is round are misled.

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