# Jesus, Ozzy... know when to quit!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 30, 2002, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-ozzy-know-when-to-quit/106514 "2002-04-30T18:04:55Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2002, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-ozzy-know-when-to-quit/106514/41 "2002-05-02T16:32:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*  
> \*\*I won’t flame you, Slee, but I will point out that comparing Ozzy to McCartney is like comparing Poe to Shelley. \*\*

I was introduced to Poe in elementary school. I’ve loved his work ever since.  
I was introduced to Ozzy in high school. IMHO In his prime, Ozzy’s voice was one of the finest I’ve ever heard.

But until now, I never realised how well they would go together. Imagine Sabbath doing The Bells.  
RE-Medication  
I’ve had plenty of experience with anti-depressants. They sometimes do turn patients into thorazombies. I have no cable so I haven’t seen a single episode, but it sounds as though Ozzy’s behavior is the result of side effects rather than burn out. On melaril, I actually fell asleep while standing up( It was in gym class and we were in a tight group listening to the coach. I leaned on the guys around me and dozed off. When everyone took off for the field, I woke up just in time to keep from falling).

A lot of drug abusers have undiagnosed psychiatric problems. For these people drugs are an attempt at self medicating. Stimulants (cocaine, speed, etc) are an attempt to fight depression directly. Depressants (alcohol especiallY) are an attempt to dull the pain or escape into semiconsciousness.

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     Ozzy likely stays on the meds to keep from going back to the bottle.
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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2002, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-ozzy-know-when-to-quit/106514/42 "2002-05-02T16:52:07Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Libertarian \*  
> \*\*I won’t flame you, Slee, but I will point out that comparing Ozzy to McCartney is like comparing Poe to Shelley: each was innovative in his own way, and their appeal to different people (including people like me who appreciate both of them) says more about the fans than the artists. \*\*

My point wasn’t comparing the music, but the output. I like some of the Beetles stuff. I also like Mozart and the Ramones. My point is that Ozzy has been touring, writing and influencing music for 30 years and he never seems to get the credit he deserves while the Beetles get more credit than they deserve.

By the way, Poe is obviously a better writer than Shelley. 🙂

Slee

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2002, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-ozzy-know-when-to-quit/106514/43 "2002-05-02T18:08:59Z")

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I love Poe. But I think Shelley can hold his own:

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> I met a traveler from an antique land  
> Who said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stone  
> Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,  
> Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,  
> And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,  
> Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,  
> Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,  
> The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,  
> And on the pedestal these words appear:  
> “My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:  
> Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!”  
> Nothing beside remains. Round the decay  
> Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare  
> The lone and level sands stretch far away.

As fine a piece of work as ever was done by anyone. Ozzy-mandias?

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2002, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-ozzy-know-when-to-quit/106514/44 "2002-05-02T21:53:41Z")

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Hey Lib…wanna take this outside??? 🙂

I’d quote some Poe at you, Al Aaraaf, Annabel Lee or The Bells but I don’t have the next three days free.

I think the Poe story ‘The Imp of Perverse’ describes Ozzy’s actions quite well.

Slee

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**Author:** ![sleestak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/919ad9/32.png) [@sleestak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sleestak)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2002, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-ozzy-know-when-to-quit/106514/45 "2002-05-02T22:13:58Z")

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Hey Lib…wanna take this outside??? 🙂

I’d quote some Poe at you, Al Aaraaf, Annabel Lee or The Bells but I don’t have the next three days free.

I think the Poe story ‘The Imp of Perverse’ describes Ozzy’s actions quite well.

Slee

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**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-ozzy-know-when-to-quit/106514/46 "2002-05-03T07:10:02Z")

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Ozzy is a better concert player than Paul, even if he is a walking medicine cabinet. Ozzy’s performance, or lack of it, on the **Tonight Show** (shown in **The Osbournes** episode where he and his security guard exchanged embarrasing looks) looks like something Paul McCartney would do almost everytime.

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**Author:** ![Neil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/839c29/32.png) [@Neil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neil)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-ozzy-know-when-to-quit/106514/47 "2002-05-03T14:07:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by capacitor \*  
> \*\*Ozzy is a better concert player than Paul, even if he is a walking medicine cabinet. Ozzy’s performance, or lack of it, on the **Tonight Show** (shown in **The Osbournes** episode where he and his security guard exchanged embarrasing looks) looks like something Paul McCartney would do almost everytime. \*\*

I didn’t see that episode, but I keep hearing people reference it. Why did he and his guard exchange embarrassing looks?

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