# Jesus - REALLY Vancouver? It's a fucking hockey game. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668 "2011-06-16T06:55:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/21 "2011-06-16T12:17:03Z")
\*Ah. This grumpy old race car I know once told me somethin’: it’s just an empty cup… \* Lightning McQueen ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/22 "2011-06-16T12:19:46Z")
Interesting coverage by the Vancouver Sun on its website last night. Now, if reports from the scene tell you large numbers of people are milling around downtown, lighting trash fires, overturning cars and setting _them_ on fire, busting out store windows, breaking up the contents and being repelled by police tear gas, you have a choice of what to call it. Do you term it: a) violence b) rioting c) a “minor rampage” If you’re the Sun, you call it a “minor rampage”. I didn’t know rampages came in different sizes like that, but at any rate it’s far preferable to annoying the city fathers and reminding people of the hockey [del]riot[/del] rampage of 1994. Just before I went to bed I returned to the story and they were still calling it a rampage, only they’d deleted the word “minor”. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![WOOKINPANUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wookinpanub/32/132_2.png) [@WOOKINPANUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WOOKINPANUB)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/23 "2011-06-16T12:42:55Z")
> [@Cicero](#): > > Sort of violence too often associated with soccer. It’s funny because it’s true. Okay, it’s not funny but it \*is \*true. Not sure why that rankles some folks. ---
**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/24 "2011-06-16T12:56:44Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > By idiots with an axe to grind it is associated, yes. This is a thread about idiotic hockey fans and it took a whole four replies before someone started going on about soccer. Four. That’s fucking pathetic on your part. It is a sporting equivalent of someone saying \ isn’t bad for doing \ because \< politician z from the opposition party\> did \ > > All sorts of sports have problems with violence, including sports in the US. My Eagles-loving mate seems to be strangely proud of them having (apparently) had an in-stadium court to deal with such things. 1,498 pages. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/25 "2011-06-16T13:19:43Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > If you’re the Sun, you call it a “minor rampage”. I didn’t know rampages came in different sizes like that, but at any rate it’s far preferable to annoying the city fathers and reminding people of the hockey [del]riot[/del] rampage of 1994. Here in the deep south we had one of those when the local boy lost a major NASCAR race a few years back. It now referred to as the “recent unpleasantness”. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/26 "2011-06-16T13:27:09Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Because I am fed up of the first thing that happens whenever violence happens regarding a sporting event is that some idiot goes on about soccer. > > Which is where you come in. Calm the fuck down. I read his post as him being surprised it happened at a hockey game because it’s the kind of thing you associate with soccer, not hockey. But if his comment is going to cause you to riot, then so be it. Happens with soccer all the time. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/27 "2011-06-16T13:45:47Z")
> [@elninost0rm](#): > > 764 pages. Hmm. That’s going to require a lot of closeted Congressman. I’ll see if we can bone up the numbers. > [@elninost0rm](#): > > 1,498 pages. Fuck! ---
**Author:** ![Double\_Foolscap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85e7bf/32.png) [@Double\_Foolscap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Double_Foolscap)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/28 "2011-06-16T13:46:27Z")
This is the type of Internet argument too often associated with soccer forums. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/29 "2011-06-16T13:50:34Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Because I am fed up of the first thing that happens whenever violence happens regarding a sporting event is that some idiot goes on about soccer. Way to make a good case about soccer fans. And yes the rioting was disgusting. I just don’t get destroying your own shit over stuff like this. ---
**Author:** ![Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hypnagogic_jerk/32/4252_2.png) [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypnagogic_Jerk)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/30 "2011-06-16T14:00:26Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Calm the fuck down. I read his post as him being surprised it happened at a hockey game because it’s the kind of thing you associate with soccer, not hockey. I thought it was a _Simpsons_ quote. Didn’t Kent Brockman say something like this in one episode? Anyway, it’s too bad when a city gets trashed after their sport teams loses or wins a game, but we know that in every crowd, there are people only there to make trouble. And the more they drink, the more they get into it. So it’s not entirely surprising. ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/31 "2011-06-16T14:01:28Z")
> [@PlainJain](#): > > Way to make a good case about soccer fans. And yes the rioting was disgusting. I just don’t get destroying your own shit over stuff like this. Maybe you just haven’t had people assuming you’re a violent idiot because of your nationality and sport you like much. I’ve had it a lot. It pisses me off. ---
**Author:** ![Vihaga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b4bc9f/32.png) [@Vihaga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vihaga)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/32 "2011-06-16T14:11:42Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Maybe you just haven’t had people assuming you’re a violent idiot because of your nationality and sport you like much. I’ve had it a lot. It pisses me off. Does it piss you off enough to punch somebody? Set a car on fire? /flees ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/33 "2011-06-16T14:14:09Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Because I am fed up of the first thing that happens whenever violence happens regarding a sporting event is that some idiot goes on about soccer. > > Which is where you come in. Yeah, where did he get the idea soccer fans have short fuses? ---
**Author:** ![amanset](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8dc957/32.png) [@amanset](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amanset)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/34 "2011-06-16T14:21:18Z")
> [@sh1bu1](#): > > Yeah, where did he get the idea soccer fans have short fuses? Mate, it’s the pit. And I’m bored at work. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/35 "2011-06-16T14:22:35Z")
Well, at least they rioted after losing. Don’t soccer fans pretty much riot as a sport itself, regardless of which team won? Throwing someone off an overpass? Man, that is all kinds of fucked up. Very shameful. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/36 "2011-06-16T14:23:16Z")
> [@alice\_in\_wonderland](#): > > I’m disgusted with the assholes that started this mess, but just as disgusted with the spectators that insist on sticking around to watch it like it’s a friggin’ block party. Go the fuck home people. Walk if you have to. **Eh.** There, I fixed that for ya. ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/37 "2011-06-16T14:39:42Z")
I live in Vancouver and I am fucking disgusted by the behaviour. I was around when the 1994 riots occurred, although very young at the time. I know a lot of people were saying that the city had “grown up” in the last 17 years and given how successfully the Olympics went, they could have been right. But there were just these young “men” who were looking for trouble. The mayor of Vancouver was right… they were hooligans intent on stirring up trouble. Everyone I know is condemning the rioting. It’ll be my fucking tax dollars that went into controlling the crowd, to solving the transit problem, to the fucking clean up of the whole downtown core. There were burning cars!!! POLICE CARS BEING BURNED!!! These hooligans are fucking losers and do not represent the whole city of Vancouver, or even hockey fans. I think the most unfortunate thing is that while it started out as a few trouble makers, the stupid humans around them were encouraged to join in. Stupid group think behaviour. The saddest part is that there were so many people who weren’t participating, standing around taking pictures… which wouldn’t be a problem. EXCEPT NOT DISPERSING AND GETTING OUT OF THE WAY MADE THINGS HARDER FOR THE POLICE TO CONTROL. I know some of them wanted “photographic evidence” to help the police out, but that was just fucking insane that they didn’t just GO HOME. One reporter from CTV asked a couple of 19 year olds why they were still hanging around, since they claimed that the whole thing was “embarrassing”. They said they couldn’t find transit downtown. What freakin’ bullshit. Truth is, they just wanted to hang around because they thought the whole thing was shits and giggles and when you’re put on national television, what are you going to tell them “Yeah, this is all one big party to me! Let’s loot on!” I was following the news all night… from the bottles being tossed into the big screen right up until the police forced them to disperse into smaller and smaller groups until they basically chased them all out of downtown. I was in tears watching the mess that was being created in my city. I know these streets, and I know the stores they were looting. I am fucking disgusted. It’s not “Vancouver” that was rioting. It was a bunch of testosterone filled idiots who trashed everyone else’s city. ---
**Author:** ![needscoffee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/needscoffee/32/1076_2.png) [@needscoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/needscoffee)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/38 "2011-06-16T14:41:37Z")
It was reported that all Vancouver liquor stores were closed at 4pm before the game began yesterday to try to keep potential rioting to a minimum. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/39 "2011-06-16T14:42:01Z")
I think you will also find that your typical Canadian hockey fan is a different sort than your typical American hockey fan. Not justifying this, but if your only experience with hockey fans is in the US, you might have an unrealistic view of the fan base as a whole. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/40 "2011-06-16T14:44:32Z")
If they had just tossed Luongo off the overpass a week ago, perhaps this whole unfortunate episode could’ve been averted. I keed, I keed! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668.md?page=3)