# Jesus - REALLY Vancouver? It's a fucking hockey game.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 16, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668 "2011-06-16T06:55:43Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elninost0rm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ed655f/32.png) [@elninost0rm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elninost0rm)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/41 "2011-06-16T14:47:10Z")

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> [@friedo](#):
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> hmm. That’s going to require a lot of closeted congressman. I’ll see if we can bone up the numbers.
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> …
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> Fuck!

😃

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/42 "2011-06-16T14:50:09Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Sort of violence too often associated with soccer.

Funnily enough I thought “sort of violence too often associated with Detroit basketball”.

In conclusion: sports are bad. So don’t do sports, m’kay?

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**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/43 "2011-06-16T14:51:16Z")

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> [@needscoffee](#):
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> It was reported that all Vancouver liquor stores were closed at 4pm before the game began yesterday to try to keep potential rioting to a minimum.

There were reports the hooligans were looting the liquor stores, refueling for their idiocy. At one point, a CTV reporter caught a loser standing on the roof of the Bay, next to a burning car lighting up a bowl!!! What a black mark on something that usually mellow people out. I very much believe that drugs were involved, but probably cocaine, since pot doesn’t do this to people!!! I just hate how that was caught on camera. Hell, I’m sad (and angry) that the whole mess was caught on camera.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/44 "2011-06-16T14:57:30Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> I think you will also find that your typical Canadian hockey fan is a different sort than your typical American hockey fan. Not justifying this, but if your only experience with hockey fans is in the US, you might have an unrealistic view of the fan base as a whole.

I’m not sure what you mean by this.

As a typical Canadian hockey fan I certainly wouldn’t be rioting in the streets: win or lose. Typical hockey fans in both countries wouldn’t do anything like this.

The few hundred assholes who did this (out of 200,000) are shit-disturbing fuckwads who have no place in society. They’re the same assholes who would cause this kind of shit at G8 summits and the like, while the vast majority of people are happy to protest peacefully within the law.

It’s shameful that these fucktards have now caused the rest of those paying attention to paint all Canadians, or all Canadian hockey fans with the same brush.

I’m embarrassed for Canada.

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**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/45 "2011-06-16T14:58:24Z")

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I would riot too if I had to sit through a soccer game.

Oh, we were talking about hockey? Sorry.

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/46 "2011-06-16T15:18:34Z")

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What next? Rioting over curling?

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/47 "2011-06-16T15:21:17Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> What next? Rioting over curling?

Only if you have the stones for it.

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**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/48 "2011-06-16T15:23:30Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> What next? Rioting over curling?

Curling rioters _really_ get their rocks off.

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**Author:** ![Shagnasty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9dc877/32.png) [@Shagnasty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shagnasty)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/49 "2011-06-16T15:29:48Z")

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They are taking this harder than I thought. Riots are bad enough but I just heard on the news that Canada is stopping mail delivery nationwide. I think we are seeing the earliest stages of perestroika. Stay safe Canadian Dopers and take care of yourselves and your families first.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/50 "2011-06-16T15:45:13Z")

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I find it hard to believe just a few hundred idiots made up that large a crowd, and did that much damage. Maybe a few hundred _hard core_ idiots, but there were, from photographic evidence, a _lot_ more ‘hangers-on and enablers’ out there than just the enciters. It takes more than idiocy to start a riot - it takes _numbers_.

There are a _lot_ of folks in Vancouver (a city I happen to love) who should be hanging their heads in shame this day.  
I will note that there was one shot of a young couple laying in the street, right in the middle of things, locked in a full-on romantic embrace. _That_ is the Vancouver I’d like to remember, and I would that more folks had followed suit - It would’ve put an entirely different face on the loss.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/51 "2011-06-16T15:52:59Z")

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I don’t think it had much to do with the result of the game. The instigators were so looking forward to the chaos that they probably would have run amok even if the Canucks won the cup.

I think the mentality is “The cops are going to have their hands full - let’s break some windows and carry away what we can.”

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/52 "2011-06-16T15:55:55Z")

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> [@Larry\_Mudd](#):
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> I think the mentality is “The cops are going to have their hands full - let’s break some windows and carry away what we can.”

That would be a comforting thought, but it implies much more intentionality than I think was present. I suspect sheer opportunism - i.e. a buncha assholes showed up for the game. When things went poorly, they were pissed, and things started to snowball.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/53 "2011-06-16T15:56:44Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> I’m not sure what you mean by this.
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> As a typical Canadian hockey fan I certainly wouldn’t be rioting in the streets: win or lose. Typical hockey fans in both countries wouldn’t do anything like this.
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> The few hundred assholes who did this (out of 200,000) are shit-disturbing fuckwads who have no place in society. They’re the same assholes who would cause this kind of shit at G8 summits and the like, while the vast majority of people are happy to protest peacefully within the law.
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> It’s shameful that these fucktards have now caused the rest of those paying attention to paint all Canadians, or all Canadian hockey fans with the same brush.
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> I’m embarrassed for Canada.

Let me rephrase: Canada’s hockey fan base has a rowdier element in it than what you’d find in the US. Partly because hockey isn’t a big deal here, being overshadowed by the big 3 sports (football, baseball, basketball), whereas it’s appeal in Canada is broader.

Our own team, the Sharks, seems to made up mostly of Canadians, Finns and other assorted foreigners. Kids in the US just don’t play hockey much. We don’t live in a frozen wasteland for 9 months out of the year. 😉

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/54 "2011-06-16T16:20:12Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> They are taking this harder than I thought. Riots are bad enough but I just heard on the news that Canada is stopping mail delivery nationwide. I think we are seeing the earliest stages of perestroika. Stay safe Canadian Dopers and take care of yourselves and your families first.

Yes, we’re done with the Arab Spring nonsense; bring on the Canadian Summer!

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**Author:** ![Redwing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/dfb087/32.png) [@Redwing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Redwing)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/55 "2011-06-16T16:25:11Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> Our own team, the Sharks, seems to made up mostly of Canadians, Finns and other assorted foreigners. Kids in the US just don’t play hockey much. We don’t live in a frozen wasteland for 9 months out of the year. 😉

Well… The Canucks had more Americans on their roster than the Bruins, and the Bruins had more Canadians. Heck, one of the Bruins is from Vancouver.

Though, it is saying something when Vancouver is more destructive than Boston over a sporting event.

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**Author:** ![MOIDALIZE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e274bd/32.png) [@MOIDALIZE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MOIDALIZE)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/56 "2011-06-16T16:29:20Z")

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See, [this](http://s2.guyism.com/up/2011/06/vancouver-makeout-riot-640x335.jpg) is the type of behavior I expect from Canadians.

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**Author:** ![Yeticus\_Rex](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a698b9/32.png) [@Yeticus\_Rex](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yeticus_Rex)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/57 "2011-06-16T16:38:47Z")

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[Inserted obligatory riot song here.](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBROENW3uRk)

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**Author:** ![sachertorte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sachertorte/32/3727_2.png) [@sachertorte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sachertorte)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/58 "2011-06-16T16:50:37Z")

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> [@Grapefruit](#):
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> I just hate how that was caught on camera. Hell, I’m sad (and angry) that the whole mess was caught on camera.

That’s fucked up. The _cameras_ bother you?  
To me, I’m looking at some AP photos thinking, Ha! Photographic evidence, they’ll be able to nail this asshole.

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**Author:** ![Rune](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e68b1a/32.png) [@Rune](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rune)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/59 "2011-06-16T16:53:04Z")

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> [@Cicero](#):
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> Sort of violence too often associated with soccer.

Yes, and if it was soccer it would of course have been absolutely understandable. Soccer is serious business. But hockey. That’s just ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/60 "2011-06-16T16:53:15Z")

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> [@Shagnasty](#):
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> They are taking this harder than I thought. Riots are bad enough but I just heard on the news that Canada is stopping mail delivery nationwide. I think we are seeing the earliest stages of perestroika. Stay safe Canadian Dopers and take care of yourselves and your families first.

Not only that, but they’ve stopped flying Air Canada flights into and out of Vancouver!

I remember when Calgary damned near won the Cup a few years ago - our response to losing was to flash our tits on 17th Ave. (that’s not the royal “our”).

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