# Jesus - REALLY Vancouver? It's a fucking hockey game. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 16, 2011, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668 "2011-06-16T06:55:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/61 "2011-06-16T16:53:18Z")
Thumbs down to the rioting Vancover “fans”. Thumbs up to the OP for the linked article from which I learned the history of “getting read the riot act.” ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/62 "2011-06-16T17:10:29Z")
> [@sachertorte](#): > > That’s fucked up. The _cameras_ bother you? > To me, I’m looking at some AP photos thinking, Ha! Photographic evidence, they’ll be able to nail this asshole. No, it’s not the fucking photographic evidence that bothers me. It’s the fact that it happened in the first place, and when these losers do see a reporter with a camera, they stand there mugging for the TV. It’s the attitude that is fucking disgusting, and now it’s world wide news. The idiots might live in Vancouver or its suburbs, but they do not represent the population of Vancouver. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/63 "2011-06-16T17:10:54Z")
Apparently, there is (or will be) a web site that will “collect” all the photos and video of the riot. It seems that a lot of people on the scene took photos and video of the events, and posted them on YouTube and such. Such photos and video often displayed the photographers’ friends on the rampage; and then, posing in front of what they had destroyed. Later (and presumably much more sober), the posters began taking them down–likely due to realizing that their friends could be identified for later arrest. This site is trying to collect all this media before it disappears, in an effort to aid police in finding the perpetrators. The site was swamped today, and as I understand things, is in the process of being moved to a better server. But if I read the Tweets of owner Dave Teixeira correctly, it should be back online soon. When it does return, it will be at: [http://canucksriot2011.com/](http://canucksriot2011.com/) ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/64 "2011-06-16T17:11:16Z")
> [@Grapefruit](#): > > There were reports the hooligans were looting the liquor stores, refueling for their idiocy. At one point, a CTV reporter caught a loser standing on the roof of the Bay, next to a burning car lighting up a bowl!!! What a black mark on something that usually mellow people out. I very much believe that drugs were involved, but probably cocaine, since pot doesn’t do this to people!!! I just hate how that was caught on camera. Hell, I’m sad (and angry) that the whole mess was caught on camera. That’s the kind of thing we do in Pittsburgh when the Steelers WIN. 😉 Seriously, my condolences to Vancouver fans (I was rooting for the Canucks), and fuck the rioting assholes. I’m sure you made your team proud! ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/65 "2011-06-16T17:12:44Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Kids in the US just don’t play hockey much. We don’t live in a frozen wasteland for 9 months out of the year. 😉 Except in the parts of the US that are a frozen wasteland for 9 months of the year. 😃 [HOCKEY; In the ‘State of Hockey,’](http://www.nytimes.com/2004/02/08/sports/hockey-in-the-state-of-hockey-brooks-all-stars-and-cup-concerns.html) And to show you how seriously we take our hockey here in this part of the USA, we didn’t just riot over LOSING some stupid pro game. We rioted after [WINNING the NCAA National Championship](http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/hockey/2003-04-13-riots_x.htm). :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/66 "2011-06-16T17:16:20Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I’m sure you made your team proud! Henrik Sedin has come out and said how freakin’ idiotic these “fans” were being. That’s not the exact quote, but a sentiment that I completely and wholeheartedly agree with. The freakin’ captain of the Canucks thinks his “fans” were shameful idiots!!! Not a surprise, but how many of them will actually take it to heart? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/67 "2011-06-16T17:18:24Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > I remember when Calgary damned near won the Cup a few years ago - our response to losing was to flash our tits on 17th Ave. (that’s not the royal “our”). The Queen didn’t whip them out? ---
**Author:** ![alice\_in\_wonderland](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alice_in_wonderland/32/176_2.png) [@alice\_in\_wonderland](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alice_in_wonderland)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/68 "2011-06-16T17:18:55Z")
> [@Grapefruit](#): > > No, it’s not the fucking photographic evidence that bothers me. It’s the fact that it happened in the first place, and when these losers do see a reporter with a camera, they stand there mugging for the TV. From one of my Vancouver friend’s facebook feeds: > [@](#): > > the only time I’ve lauged tonight was when they were filming in teh Bay - the group all in black are in there… plus one guy without any face covering. So there he is talking away on his phone, holding a tire iron… being filmed… and I’'m guessing the person on the phone told him he was fully visible on tv, and he turned and RAN! hope they toss his ass in jail. There was a whole lot of stupid going on there last night. I haven’t heard anything more about the man that fell off the overpass - I hope he’s doing ok. ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/69 "2011-06-16T17:22:32Z")
Today’s Globe and Mail has an interesting report on how a few brave Vancouverites stood up to the rioters: [“Facing Down Vancouver’s Rioters: ‘This Is My Neighbourhood’.”](http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/british-columbia/facing-down-vancouvers-rioters-this-is-my-neighbourhood/article2063031/) On the same page is a link to a video of a woman standing up to the rioters. (Potentially NSFW, due to language.) ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/70 "2011-06-16T17:29:57Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > Not only that, but they’ve stopped flying Air Canada flights into and out of Vancouver! > > I remember when Calgary damned near won the Cup a few years ago - our response to losing was to flash our tits on 17th Ave. (that’s not the royal “our”). Well, we will _never_ see such rioting here in Toronto.\* \*Admittedly, because the Leafs will _never_ come damned near to winning the Cup. Ah, well. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/71 "2011-06-16T17:32:25Z")
> [@Grapefruit](#): > > Henrik Sedin has come out and said how freakin’ idiotic these “fans” were being. That’s not the exact quote, but a sentiment that I completely and wholeheartedly agree with. The freakin’ captain of the Canucks thinks his “fans” were shameful idiots!!! Not a surprise, but how many of them will actually take it to heart? [Well, he was actually a lot classier.](http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=566046&navid=mod-rr-headlines) > [@](#): > > “It’s terrible,” Canucks captain Henrik Sedin said, shaking his head. “This city and province has a lot to be proud of, the team we have and the guys we have in here. It’s too bad.” (I was only somewhat exaggerating about Steelers fans, though. Back in 2009, there were burning couches, trash can fires, and some looting, IIRC. It was somewhat better after the Pens won that year, but only because the police were better prepared) Stupid fans. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/72 "2011-06-16T17:33:48Z")
> [@amanset](#): > > Mate, it’s the pit. > > And I’m bored at work. Well then, it’s OK for\* you\*. > [@Rune](#): > > Soccer is serious business. But hockey. That’s just ridiculous. To be fair, they were Canadians after all. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/73 "2011-06-16T17:39:26Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > Well, we will _never_ see such rioting here in Toronto.\* > > \*Admittedly, because the Leafs will _never_ come damned near to winning the Cup. Ah, well. 😉 I know you’re joking, but here’s what i posted last night in the Stanley Cup thread. > [@](#): > > In 1993 I was at Maple Leaf Gardens for game 7 of the semifinals between the Leafs and [del]Gretzky[/del] the Kings. When Los Angeles won the game it was like a funeral procession. People exited MLG and quietly boarded subways and left. There were police on horseback awaiting the potential melee. It was so depressing that you could have talked to someone across the street without yelling. > > I hope Vancouver fans behave tonight. ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/74 "2011-06-16T17:39:33Z")
There’s very little information right now on the injury and arrests, but I hope Mayor Robertson will stay true to his words that the instigators will be held accountable. I’m most curious about the guy who fell (or jumped) off the Georgia Viaduct. No reports so far on whether he was a Bruins fan or just another Vancouver idiot who jumped because he couldn’t take the loss. The most laughable part (not that there’s much humour in this whole stupid situation) was that they broke windows of the Chapters (Canadian bookstore chain) but no looting in the actual store. Of course, these idiots wouldn’t know what to do with a book other than to burn it in a bonfire. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/75 "2011-06-16T18:01:14Z")
Found an interesting Facebook page: [Vancouver Riot Pics: Post Your Photos](http://www.facebook.com/pages/Vancouver-Riot-Pics-Post-Your-Photos/121837081234162). Love the screen capture of a Facebook page where the poster writes: > [@](#): > > Maced in the face hit with a Batton, tear gassed twice, 6 broken fingers, blood everywhere, punched a fucken pig in the head with riot gear on knocked him to the ground, through the jersey on a burning cop car flipped some cars, burnt some smart cars, burnt some cop cars, I’m on the news… One word… History! And the first comment to this post? > [@](#): > > … take this down!!! it’s evidence!!! Hope they get this guy, who seems to be so proud of himself. Another screen capture shows a post: “whats up vancity time to fucking roll.” Then, when a comment points out that there are children in the area, he replies, “fuck the little kids fuck the police let tear down vancity.” It seems that at least some people headed to the area with the intent to cause trouble no matter what the outcome of the game was. ---
**Author:** ![Grapefruit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/73ab20/32.png) [@Grapefruit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grapefruit)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/76 "2011-06-16T18:05:27Z")
> [@Spoons](#): > > It seems that at least some people headed to the area with the intent to cause trouble no matter what the outcome of the game was. People went down there with molotov cocktails and axes. So yup, they were ready to riot no matter the outcome. They’re not just idiots, I’m sick of calling them idiots. They’re assholes hell bent on destruction. ---
**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/77 "2011-06-16T18:32:49Z")
Not that rioting ever makes sense. I could _kind of_ (not really but you get my point) get the outrage if it was a close game and Boston won it in overtime thanks to a bad call from the refs. But this game? Jebus Canucks, you got your asses handed to you. ---
**Author:** ![JoThrive](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@JoThrive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoThrive)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/78 "2011-06-16T18:36:50Z")
This is all so sad. ---
**Author:** ![Hbns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hbns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hbns)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/79 "2011-06-16T19:22:10Z")
So I just happen to be watching Part 5 of [Hockey: A People’s History](http://www.cbc.ca/hockeyhistory/) when low and behold it covers the [‘Richard Riot’](http://archives.cbc.ca/version_print.asp?page=1&IDLan=1&IDClip=13340&IDDossier=0&IDCat=375&IDCatPa=263) from 1955 in Montreal. So maybe this hockey fan is going to have to go easy on the soccer fans. Seems this sort of thing has been going on for ages. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [June 16, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668/80 "2011-06-16T20:09:02Z")
> [@Shagnasty](#): > > They are taking this harder than I thought. Riots are bad enough but I just heard on the news that Canada is stopping mail delivery nationwide. I think we are seeing the earliest stages of perestroika. Stay safe Canadian Dopers and take care of yourselves and your families first. There’s been a mail strike for a while now, already. I have a WoW bud who lives in Canada who’s been talking about it, and this might just be an extension of the strike, having nothing to do with the riot. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jesus-really-vancouver-its-a-fucking-hockey-game/585668.md?page=5)