# Jewish/christian questions

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-christian-questions/502966>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [July 14, 2009, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-christian-questions/502966 "2009-07-14T11:27:50Z")\
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**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2009, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-christian-questions/502966/61 "2009-07-30T23:28:08Z")

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> [@True Blue Jack](#):
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> Well, Ted, you certainly are sticking to your guns as far as your right to do the thinking and feeling for these folks!
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> Now, I am also looking in from the outside, since I am not a Jew either. I may have been guilty of jumping to conclusions, assuming things without any particular reason, and so on, on the same subject. And once I was advised that if three Jews were asked the same question you would get _ **four** _ different answers. But the difference is that I am really trying to _understand_, where you see only potential converts. And, by necessity, you must calculate that Jews (for _ **Judaism** _!) need to have their own religion explained to them.
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> Okay, another point:
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> (from the same site:)
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> “Psalm 22:17  
> Missionary interpretation: Missionaries say that this passage predicts the crucifixion of Jesus.  
> Problems with this interpretation: (1) This scripture does not point exclusively to Jesus but refers to the Jewish people as a whole. (2) Jesus did not expect G-d to save him. (3) Missionaries have made up a new Hebrew word (one that never has existed). They say that korai means pierced which leads them to mistranslate the passage. The word ka’ari (כָּאֲרִי ) means like a lion or as a lion. This same word is used in Numbers 24:9, Isaiah 38:13, and Ezekiel 22:25…”
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> Now, Ted, is making up a word to connect this passage with the Crucifixion the _right_ thing to do or the _wrong_ thing to do?
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> _ **Hmmm?** _

If indeed C’tians/missionaries did make up a word for to make the link, yes- that is wrong. And I have no problem using the JPS translation “Like lions [they maul] my hands and feet” and still apply it to JC. My NRSV is in a box somewhere, my translations of the Syriac Peshitta (the Lamsa Bible) and the Greek Septuagint (the Orthodox Study Bible) claim that “pierced” is the correct translation in those languages. My revised NIV says that some Hebrew texts do have “pierced”. Right now, I have no way of knowing if there’s any validity to that. But the official JPS translation poses no problem for me.

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