# Jewish Dopers: How do you view Jesus?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [February 11, 2014, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091 "2014-02-11T22:00:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 16\
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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/41 "2014-02-12T17:24:45Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> That’s Muslims, not Jews, who view Jesus as a prophet.

Jews view him as a very naughty boy.

Or was that Brian?

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/42 "2014-02-12T17:38:03Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> That’s Muslims, not Jews, who view Jesus as a prophet.

Jews don’t think much of Mohammed either, for that matter.

The standards for “the real messiah” are so high that I don’t think god himself would be able to pass the test. Which gives rise to the question, “Could god create a people so skeptical that they wouldn’t even believe in him?” The answer seems to be, YES. Something I imagine vexes god greatly.

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**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/43 "2014-02-12T17:48:17Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> I never got the great prophet idea. Just another of many fake Messiahs with a swelled head.  
> The good stuff a lot of other people said also.  
> Basically I thought of Jesus the same way as I think of God today - a folk figure with supposed special powers but without a lot of evidence - something other people believe in, like ghosts and yetis.l

Holy crap, the yeti got **Voyager**! I, for one, welcome our new yeti overlords.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/44 "2014-02-12T18:15:50Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Jews don’t think much of Mohammed either, for that matter.
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> The standards for “the real messiah” are so high that I don’t think god himself would be able to pass the test. Which gives rise to the question, “Could god create a people so skeptical that they wouldn’t even believe in him?” The answer seems to be, YES. Something I imagine vexes god greatly.

It’s not THAT bad-[take a look.](http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm)

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/45 "2014-02-12T18:53:33Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It’s not THAT bad-[take a look.](http://www.jewfaq.org/mashiach.htm)

Messiah-Shmessiah. A real jew would demand to [speak to the supervisor](http://www.commentarymagazine.com/article/arguing-with-god/).

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**Author:** ![Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a587f6/32.png) [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freddy_the_Pig)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/46 "2014-02-12T20:23:33Z")

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Whatever else Christianity may have done, it spread aspects of Judaism–notably monotheism and the Old Testament–far wider than they likely would have spread otherwise. The Ten Commandments, the story of the Exodus, the names and tales of the Old Testament prophets, are known to every literate person in the Western world. Do Jews have much of a feeling about this, whether good bad or indifferent?

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [February 12, 2014, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/47 "2014-02-12T20:28:22Z")

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> [@Freddy\_the\_Pig](#):
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> Whatever else Christianity may have done, it spread aspects of Judaism–notably monotheism and the Old Testament–far wider than they likely would have spread otherwise. The Ten Commandments, the story of the Exodus, the names and tales of the Old Testament prophets, are known to every literate person in the Western world. Do Jews have much of a feeling about this, whether good bad or indifferent?

Again, indifferent. We’re not an Evangelical religion, so its spread is not important to me. Many of those ideas had been altered or misunderstood, or used against us, so it’s hard to feel great about Christianity being our spokesperson.

Even using the term “Old Testament” is problematic. It’s not old to us.

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**Author:** ![the\_diego](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@the\_diego](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/the_diego)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/48 "2014-02-13T03:54:29Z")

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“Not thinking about him” too much if at all explains a lot of things, like Christmas.

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**Author:** ![Stringbean](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Stringbean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stringbean)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/49 "2014-02-13T05:19:32Z")

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Do Jews consider Jesus a Jew?

I mean, he _was_ a Jew…

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/50 "2014-02-13T07:02:02Z")

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> [@RitterSport](#):
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> Holy crap, the yeti got **Voyager**! I, for one, welcome our new yeti overlords.

Oddly I just finished a skeptical book on cryptozoology, with a chapter on yeti and another on the Loch Ness Mons

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/51 "2014-02-13T12:45:33Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> Do Jews consider Jesus a Jew?
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> I mean, he _was_ a Jew…

He would have been an apostate Jew if he ever claimed to be divine. It’s not clear to me if he ever did since it’s not clear what Jesus actually said and what was said on his behalf. But he was clearly Jewish.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/52 "2014-02-13T12:52:45Z")

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> [@Voyager](#):
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> Oddly I just finished a skeptical book on cryptozoology, with a chapter on yeti and another on the Loch Ness Mons

Shit. Not again. I swear, this is the last time we’re sending out a search party, **Voyager**.

FFS, stick to reading IKEA and Sears catalogues.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/53 "2014-02-13T17:24:38Z")

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> [@QuickSilver](#):
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> Shit. Not again. I swear, this is the last time we’re sending out a search party, **Voyager**.
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> FFS, stick to reading IKEA and Sears catalogues.

Nah, he just lost signal. It’s hard to get a good wi-fi signal outside the solar system.

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**Author:** ![Ranger\_Jeff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ranger_jeff/32/2065_2.png) [@Ranger\_Jeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ranger_Jeff)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/54 "2014-02-13T19:04:18Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> Do Jews consider Jesus a Jew?
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> I mean, he _was_ a Jew…

Look, he went into his father’s business, he thought his mother was a virgin, and his mother thought he was the messiah. Of course he was Jewish!

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**Author:** ![Happyasaclam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/7c8e57/32.png) [@Happyasaclam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happyasaclam)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/55 "2014-02-13T20:26:14Z")

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He was a good Jew.  
had great intentions.  
Great hair.

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**Author:** ![zbuzz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e19b73/32.png) [@zbuzz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zbuzz)\
**Post date:** [February 13, 2014, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-dopers-how-do-you-view-jesus/681091/56 "2014-02-13T23:05:06Z")

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> [@Stringbean](#):
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> Do Jews consider Jesus a Jew?
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> I mean, he _was_ a Jew…

Archie Bunker explains what happened [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4XUhRkBz5E#t=05m46s)

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