# Jewish influence in Politics and the Media Coincidence or Conspiracy? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [July 25, 2013, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506 "2013-07-25T17:32:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![12741](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c2a13f/32.png) [@12741](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/12741)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/61 "2013-07-25T19:44:46Z")
Check the political stances of the Supreme Court Justices, Senators, Mayors, and Representatives on the list. I linked to the pages on them on Wikipedia. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/62 "2013-07-25T19:45:04Z")
> [@12741](#): > > I’m not interested in discussing this with anti-semites. I’m not anti-semitic. I’m not against Jews. I’m interested in discussing attributes they have, not talking against them. I doubt your sincerity. Why would it even occur to you to list “influential Jews” as opposed to “influential Irishmen” or “left handers” or “native Chicagoans”? ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/63 "2013-07-25T19:45:41Z")
> [@12741](#): > > I’m not really that convinced that there is any sort of conspiracy. > > When there is such similarity of people in different fields who have similar beliefs, I thought I could get a good discussion going by phrasing the question about the similarities in such a way that I presented two opposite extremes, thus leaving anything in between as a possible viewpoint. Coincidence, meaning nothing is related, Conspiracy, meaning everything is related, or somewhere in between. The most parsimonious explanation is that any views they all seem to have in common derive from commonality of cultural background. Which is neither conspiracy nor coincidence. Cultural background explains a **lot** about individual political views. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/64 "2013-07-25T19:46:38Z")
> [@12741](#): > > Did you check my sources? Tell me your thoughts on those. I gave them to you. Yes, and I did already, citing Wikipedia is very weak, whoever pointed at Murdock as being a Jew is an ignorant, your JPost cite is from an anonymous and very possibly a Joke entry. So, yeah, I could tell you to stop digging but that is your problem, not mine. And as you once again avoided acknowledging that Murdoch is not a Jew (one can say that for his ancestry, but his practices and actual attendance to church demonstrates that he is not a Jew) it only shows all that good evidence does not mean anything to you. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/65 "2013-07-25T19:49:23Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Yes, and I did already, citing Wikipedia is very weak, whoever pointed at Murdock as being a Jew is an ignorant Apparently everyone who could be considered religiously or ethnically Jewish gets in. That’s a pretty lax conspiracy. ---
**Author:** ![12741](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/1/c2a13f/32.png) [@12741](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/12741)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/66 "2013-07-25T19:49:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > The most parsimonious explanation is that any views they all seem to have in common derive from commonality of cultural background. Cultural background explains a **lot** about individual political views. Here we go, now this discussion is moving forward. I was thinking that too, that their cohesiveness as a community had to do with the evolution of their culture, sticking together in foreign lands since 70AD. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/67 "2013-07-25T19:53:24Z")
> [@12741](#): > > Check the political stances of the Supreme Court Justices, Senators, Mayors, and Representatives on the list. I linked to the pages on them on Wikipedia. The representatives are mostly Democrats from heavily Democratic states. Aren’t their political stances also similar to the non-Jewish politicians in those states? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/68 "2013-07-25T19:53:43Z")
> [@12741](#): > > I was thinking that too, that their cohesiveness as a community had to do with the evolution of their culture, sticking together in foreign lands since 70AD. Exactly. That’s why the liberals and conservatives and socialists all have the same political views. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/69 "2013-07-25T19:58:38Z")
> [@12741](#): > > Here we go, now this discussion is moving forward. > > I was thinking that too, that their cohesiveness as a community had to do with the evolution of their culture, sticking together in foreign lands since 70AD. “Sticking together” is not a quality of guys called Rupert. > **[Murdoch: Why Is “Jewish Owned” Media Anti-Israel?](https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2012/11/rupert-murdoch-wonders-why-jewish-owned-media-has-anti-israel-bias.html)** > > In yet another round of the media mogul who tweets, Rupert Murdoch is raising eyebrows again. On Saturday night, the News Corp chief executive took to... > [@](#): > > In how many ways is Murdoch’s tweet offensive? Let the Daily Beast’s Peter Beinart, who calls Murdoch’s tweet “downright dumb and offensive,” count the ways. First, the allegation is factually “absurd,” writes Beinart. It’s also offensive to journalists because “it implies that institutions of the ‘press’ should reflect the ideological biases of their owners.” And to top it all off, it’s offensive to Jews because it suggests “Jewish media-owners should let their Jewishness guide their journalism.” ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/70 "2013-07-25T20:17:54Z")
The OP is the worst version of Adam Sandler’s Hanukkah Song ever. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/71 "2013-07-25T20:22:12Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Apparently everyone who could be considered religiously or ethnically Jewish gets in. That’s a pretty lax conspiracy. Yet two of the SDMB’s Administrator’s MARLEY23 and C K DEXTER HAVEN are also Jewish. What does this mean? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/72 "2013-07-25T20:23:31Z")
You know who also kept meticulous lists of jews?.. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/73 "2013-07-25T20:25:50Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Yet two of the SDMB’s Administrator’s MARLEY23 and C K DEXTER HAVEN are also Jewish. What does this mean? They must be really conflicted about the jackboot requirement. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/74 "2013-07-25T20:35:32Z")
> [@12741](#): > > Here we go, now this discussion is moving forward. > > I was thinking that too, that their cohesiveness as a community had to do with the evolution of their culture, sticking together in foreign lands since 70AD. So they’re insular? Isolationist? Keep themselves apart? It’s funny how someone who’s not anti-semitic and totally new to this realization that there are a lot of Jews in high places keeps hitting the anti-semitic buttons right on the head. ---
**Author:** ![colander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e8c25b/32.png) [@colander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colander)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/75 "2013-07-25T20:47:57Z")
> [@12741](#): > > Here we go, now this discussion is moving forward. > > I was thinking that too, that their cohesiveness as a community had to do with the evolution of their culture, sticking together in foreign lands since 70AD. u “straight “dopars”” always like to make bad and fun of inovative quesioners. but, i think is not fair for you all are, CLOSET MINDED. (abouting the jewes). now i will tell u story, so u can see taht 127467 is a for sure correct regrading his jeww-related points. last year i was at the work, and we at lunch decide, “we will order to restaraunt for teh food.” (there was three people, me and rod and guillaume.) “what will we eat? I saids. i always like to order a the piezza pie. i recomd it” no said guillaume. “rod is does not like the cheese! and cheese is on a piezza so no we shouldnt get that” rod said “i agree, cheese is problem for me we should get sandwich instead.” but i dont like sandwich!!! i think a piezza is too better! “then maybe, you shold not come with us for lunchmeal” says guillaume. you beter believe i was frothing mad! anotehr piezzaless day for me, all thanks of jewdnish agreeeiveness! dont you see now, peopel? dont u see taht mussolini and hedlar (sp?)was right ps. i am pretty sure rod & guillaume are jews. because of tehy wears a hats. ---
**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/76 "2013-07-25T20:52:09Z")
> [@12741](#): > > As the title says, is there a conspiracy, or is it coinicidence that many Jewish people support generally the same political views with the strong influence they have on America? Keep in mind that "The community self-identifying as Jewish by birth, irrespective of halakhic (unbroken maternal line of Jewish descent or formal Jewish conversion) status, numbers about 7 million, or 2.5% of the US population. " IANAJ but from what I can tell, Jews are liberal because their religion tells them to make the world a better place, so they can either be doctors or liberals and they can’t all go to med school.😉 ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/77 "2013-07-25T21:04:38Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > And as you once again avoided acknowledging that Murdoch is not a Jew (one can say that for his ancestry, but his practices and actual attendance to church demonstrates that he is not a Jew) . . . Well, that’s what distinguishes antisemitism (both a thing and a word of 19th-Century origin) from the much older _Judenhaas_ or Jew-hate: To antisemites, the taint is in the blood and religious conversion does not cleanse it. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/78 "2013-07-25T21:04:47Z")
Jews _should_ be in control of everything. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/79 "2013-07-25T21:11:28Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > You know who also kept meticulous lists of jews?.. And [kept himself off the list](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/797/was-hitler-part-jewish)? ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [July 25, 2013, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506/80 "2013-07-25T21:22:27Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > But, news to me that Krauthammer is a liberal. :rolleyes: > > The Kraut shows that there are Jews that are conservative, but curiously the OP thinks that all are leftists. It’s that ying-yang thing, the duality of man. Kind of like how the Jews were behind Bolshevism and they also control all the banks. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-in-politics-and-the-media-coincidence-or-conspiracy/664506.md?page=5)