# Jewish influence over the president candidates (Trump and Clinton)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 16, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770 "2015-10-16T01:02:24Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scandic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Scandic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scandic)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/1 "2015-10-16T01:02:24Z")

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How much Jewish influence is present over the two top-candidates (Trump and Clinton). How will this affect the presidency ? (if elected)😕

Trumps daughter have converted to judaism (her husband is Jewish):smack:  
Clintons daughter is married to an Jew. Their child have a Jewish upbringing.  
Trumps daughter and Clintons daughter are friends.

I’m pretty sure that this will affect foreign relation (Israel) :dubious:

The voters should not vote for these two candidates.

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**Author:** ![Construct](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/50afbb/32.png) [@Construct](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Construct)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/2 "2015-10-16T01:08:33Z")

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You can’t talk like that. That’s racist.

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**Author:** ![yawuntz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/a5b964/32.png) [@yawuntz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yawuntz)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/3 "2015-10-16T01:10:12Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> The voters should not vote for these two candidates.

Why not?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/4 "2015-10-16T01:10:55Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> The voters should not vote for these two candidates.

I’m a Jewish voter; for whom should I vote?

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**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/5 "2015-10-16T01:12:25Z")

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> [@Construct](#):
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> You can’t talk like that. That’s racist.

Not racist. Bigoted. You need to learn the difference.

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**Author:** ![Scandic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Scandic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scandic)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/6 "2015-10-16T01:26:13Z")

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> [@Construct](#):
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> You can’t talk like that. That’s racist.

I can if these connections have a significance for future foreign policy

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**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/7 "2015-10-16T01:28:05Z")

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Huh. In a world where candidates receive 100’s of millions of campaign dollars from huge corporations, billionaires with private agendas, and Wall Street firms; in a world where no one achieves political power without making various deals with the devil along the way – debts that will someday come due; and even, possibly, in a world where candidates have ideals and principles of their own – in _this_ world, you believe that the preeminent factor affecting those candidates’ foreign policy will be the religion of their sons-in-law? I think you can cancel my subscription to your newsletter.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/8 "2015-10-16T01:35:50Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> How much Jewish influence is present over the two top-candidates (Trump and Clinton). How will this affect the presidency ? (if elected)😕
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> Trumps daughter have converted to judaism (her husband is Jewish):smack:  
> Clintons daughter is married to an Jew. Their child have a Jewish upbringing.  
> Trumps daughter and Clintons daughter are friends.
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> I’m pretty sure that this will affect foreign relation (Israel) :dubious:
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> The voters should not vote for these two candidates.

Are you ever going to go back to your last anti semitic thread and explain why American Jews are dangerous to foreign policy? Is your plan to keep throwing up threads concerning Jewish people and expect the rest of us just to accept your notion that being Jewish is somehow bad?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/9 "2015-10-16T01:46:49Z")

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> [@Finagle](#):
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> Huh. In a world where candidates receive 100’s of millions of campaign dollars from huge corporations, billionaires with private agendas, and Wall Street firms; in a world where no one achieves political power without making various deals with the devil along the way – debts that will someday come due; and even, possibly, in a world where candidates have ideals and principles of their own – in _this_ world, you believe that the preeminent factor affecting those candidates’ foreign policy will be the religion of their sons-in-law? I think you can cancel my subscription to your newsletter.

(Quoted completely for truth)

Amen (a Hebrew word!) to that.

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**Author:** ![Scandic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Scandic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scandic)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/10 "2015-10-16T01:56:05Z")

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> [@boytyperanma](#):
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> Are you ever going to go back to your last anti semitic thread and explain why American Jews are dangerous to foreign policy? Is your plan to keep throwing up threads concerning Jewish people and expect the rest of us just to accept your notion that being Jewish is somehow bad?

It’s US connection with Israel that is my issue, not Judaism as such

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/11 "2015-10-16T02:21:17Z")

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You make the assumption that a Jewish person is more aligned with Israel than with the US. Actually, which is even sillier, you make the assumption that someone with a Jewish relative is more aligned with Israel than with the US.

Utter nonsense.

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**Author:** ![boytyperanma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4491bb/32.png) [@boytyperanma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/boytyperanma)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/12 "2015-10-16T02:27:13Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> It’s US connection with Israel that is my issue, not Judaism as such

Yet here you are singling out Jewish people and people who aren’t even Jewish for having Jewish relatives claiming they are somehow dangerous to our foreign policy.

What specific foreign policy positions do you think a candidate with a Jewish son in law holds that other candidates do not?

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**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/13 "2015-10-16T02:30:12Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> It’s US connection with Israel that is my issue, not Judaism as such

Then why is the faith of any of these people relevant?

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/14 "2015-10-16T02:31:32Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> It’s US connection with Israel that is my issue, not Judaism as such

The US has “connections” to many countries - I don’t see you starting threads about _them_.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/15 "2015-10-16T04:25:09Z")

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I like threads like this - it reminds me of how powerful us Jews are and how lots of people fear us, bwa-ha-haaaaa…

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/16 "2015-10-16T04:35:13Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> The voters should not vote for these two candidates.

I agree that the voters should not vote for Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton. My reasons for believing this are somewhat different than yours, however.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/17 "2015-10-16T05:45:36Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> It’s US connection with Israel that is my issue, not Judaism as such

It’s not Judaism as such, it those Jews, right?

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**Author:** ![Blake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@Blake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blake)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/18 "2015-10-16T05:56:38Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It’s not Judaism as such, it those Jews, right?

It’s not THOSE Jews. It’s THE Jew.  
The Jew is manipulative.  
The Jew marries into powerful Christian families.  
The Jew corrupts Christian women.

Get your articles straight. OK?

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**Author:** ![psychobunny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/54ee81/32.png) [@psychobunny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/psychobunny)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/19 "2015-10-16T05:59:49Z")

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I guess if Clinton and Trump are out then Bernie Sanders will have to do?

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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/20 "2015-10-16T07:09:06Z")

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> [@Scandic](#):
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> It’s US connection with Israel that is my issue, not Judaism as such

How about presenting some evidence of how US policy towards Israel has changed depending on how many familial relationships with Jewish Americans the sitting president has had then? If you can’t you’re just waving your bias, and if you can you still need more to show there’s a causal connection.

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