# Jewish influence over the president candidates (Trump and Clinton) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770 "2015-10-16T01:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/41 "2015-10-16T15:33:08Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > But they’re so crafty that they fabricate the appearance of being, y’know, people, like everyone else? I fear you may be right. Wait a moment. I thought 'twas us Mormons who were lizards masquerading as humans. > [@](#): > > Each Jewish person is presumably told by their local Elder of Zion how to respond to polls and what opinions to voice, so as to propagate this Big Lie. I ran across [this site](http://thebookofmormon.webs.com/) today. See how devious you guys and we are? > [@](#): > > I’ll alert the OP, he’ll want to know. Clearly, you, along with basically the rest of humanity, have a different definition than the OP does of _know_. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/42 "2015-10-16T15:41:52Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wait a moment. I thought 'twas us Mormons who were lizards masquerading as humans. Yes, doing the bidding of your Jew masters. It’s pretty obvious, given the Saints’ obsession with Zion. You let the Jew control your [banking](https://www.zionsbank.com/), naturally…but also your national parks! And even your [motorcycles](http://www.zionhd.com/map_hours.asp)! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/43 "2015-10-16T15:43:30Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > Just the other day I influenced a publicly traded multi-billion dollar global private equity corporation to implement a major fundamental IT policy change. You complained on reddit about your iPhone? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/44 "2015-10-16T16:23:24Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Absurd. Jews are well known for sharing exactly the same opinion on every subject. It’s said that Jews tend to be argumentative. Of course, many Jews would vehemently disagree with that characterization. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/45 "2015-10-16T16:24:43Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Wait a moment. I thought 'twas us Mormons who were lizards masquerading as humans Sorry - you Mormons are evil, but way behind in the shape-shifting lizard sweepstakes (Mitt Romney as a lizard? C’mon…). I would definitely be worried about Hillary and her Reptilian backers. Even when artfully disguised, [there’s no mistaking the lizard heritage](http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/US_hillary_clinton_afghan_donor_conference_77.jpg). And when the [mask](http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/hillary-clinton-funny-pictures.jpg) [slips](https://comm2302conspiracy.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/rephillarybig.jpg)…:eek: ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/46 "2015-10-16T16:29:29Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Sorry - you Mormons are evil, but way behind in the shape-shifting lizard sweepstakes (Mitt Romney as a lizard? C’mon…). > > I would definitely be worried about Hillary and her Reptilian backers. Even when artfully disguised, [there’s no mistaking the lizard heritage](http://www.thedailysheeple.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/US_hillary_clinton_afghan_donor_conference_77.jpg). > > And when the [mask](http://funny-pictures-blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/hillary-clinton-funny-pictures.jpg) [slips](https://comm2302conspiracy.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/rephillarybig.jpg)…:eek: Mormons are the lost tribe…_of Jews!!_ ---
**Author:** ![up\_the\_junction](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f1d935/32.png) [@up\_the\_junction](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/up_the_junction)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/47 "2015-10-16T16:33:38Z")
… and off we go. Version #3621 ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/48 "2015-10-16T16:39:39Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > Even allowing for that, it’s not really ‘aid’ so much as entrenching a regional superpower from whom you hope to extract some return. Like perhaps an an adherence to recognised human rights values on those it dominates … Not really; the US used massive aid to both Israel and Egypt as a bargaining chip in the Camp David Accords. It was a bribe for peace (and moving Egypt away from the Soviet sphere of influence), and it’s worked incredibly well. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/49 "2015-10-16T17:05:35Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > … and off we go. Version #3621 I guess some people don’t or won’t get it, but the “Jewish influence” thing in American politics is simply stupid. There’s no other word for it; it’s flatly, incontestably stupid. It is, consequently, difficult to take seriously. Bear in mind that we are talking about a Western democracy in which the influence of seriously hard core Christianity is incredibly high, vastly more so than in any other advanced nation. It is quite literally the case that fundamentalist Christianity is so influential in the USA that Republican candidates for President are essentially not allowed to admit they believe in rudimentary scientific facts, and candidates who are obviously not practicing Christians have to _pretend_ they are. Even Donald Trump, legitimately a political outsider and maverick politician, had to go through the motions of saying the Bible was his favourite book, even though it obviously is not, to appease millions of zealous evangelicals. It may be that you do not notice this because you simply take it for granted. Sometimes things are so big we don’t see them. To look at a nation in the thrall and control of evangelical Christianity and then propose it is unduly influenced by a tiny little religion that has rarely influenced much of anything is simply preposterous and unworthy of debate. It’s as if a man was brought into a hospital after being set on fire, with third degree burns to 75% of his body, and the doctor looks at him and doesn’t see the charred flesh and insists the man needs a better haircut. ---
**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/50 "2015-10-16T17:17:30Z")
> [@](#): > > Denmark’s experience of the Holocaust is unique among the occupied nations of Europe, protecting and ultimately saving nearly the whole of its Jewish population from deportation and extermination. But today, Denmark suffers from a new, bourgeoning, and dangerous kind of anti-Semitism, one that mixes strident anti-Zionism with a disdain for Jewish customs and practices. This is not only a problem in Denmark, but an inescapable, growing burden throughout Scandinavia. [Here’s the article.](http://www.thetower.org/article/the-scandal-of-scandinavia/) ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/51 "2015-10-16T17:22:35Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Bear in mind that we are talking about a Western democracy in which the influence of seriously hard core Christianity is incredibly high, vastly more so than in any other advanced nation. It is quite literally the case that fundamentalist Christianity is so influential in the USA that Republican candidates for President are essentially not allowed to admit they believe in rudimentary scientific facts, and candidates who are obviously not practicing Christians have to _pretend_ they are. Even Donald Trump, legitimately a political outsider and maverick politician, had to go through the motions of saying the Bible was his favourite book, even though it obviously is not, to appease millions of zealous evangelicals. > > It may be that you do not notice this because you simply take it for granted. Sometimes things are so big we don’t see them. > > To look at a nation in the thrall and control of evangelical Christianity and then propose it is unduly influenced by a tiny little religion that has rarely influenced much of anything is simply preposterous and unworthy of debate. Well said. I think OP should quit beating around the bush and just start a single thread with a straightforward title like “The problem of the Jew, and what to do about it”. Though preferably somewhere else. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/52 "2015-10-16T17:41:06Z")
> [@Bridget\_Burke](#): > > [Here’s the article.](http://www.thetower.org/article/the-scandal-of-scandinavia/) > [@](#): > > But today, Denmark suffers from a\*\* new\*\*, bourgeoning, and dangerous kind of anti-Semitism It’s really not new at all. ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/53 "2015-10-16T18:16:57Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > … and off we go. Version #3621 Boo hoo. You’d rather talk about how awful Jews are, go start your own idiotic thread. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/54 "2015-10-16T18:25:11Z")
> [@up\_the\_junction](#): > > … and off we go. Version #3621 Are you saying that, based on the originator’s previous threads, it’s not reasonable to assume that he bears negative feelings towards Jews? ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/55 "2015-10-16T18:41:30Z")
> [@wolfpup](#): > > Well said. I think OP should quit beating around the bush and just start a single thread with a straightforward title like “The problem of the Jew, and what to do about it”. Though preferably somewhere else. 😛 But what sort of solution do you expect he’ll come up with? ---
**Author:** ![northporlarbear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7bcc69/32.png) [@northporlarbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/northporlarbear)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/56 "2015-10-16T18:49:42Z")
I think what the Op tried to say was that, those candidates might not serve America’s best interest but serve Israel’s interest instead even if that somehow harms (or does not maximize, or makes no difference but wastes time & attention, etc) America’s interest in any degree. It makes no sense for America to not serve its own interest. As for right & wrong, that’s not on the same plane as interest. When I say America serving its own interest, that’s when it’s not wrongful. I am clearly not talking about America stealing money from a foreign country with a military force. ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/57 "2015-10-16T18:55:20Z")
> [@northporlarbear](#): > > I think what the Op tried to say was that, those candidates might not serve America’s best interest but serve Israel’s interest instead even if that somehow harms (or does not maximize, or makes no difference but wastes time & attention, etc) America’s interest in any degree. It makes no sense for America to not serve its own interest. As for right & wrong, that’s not on the same plane as interest. When I say America serving its own interest, that’s when it’s not wrongful. I am clearly not talking about America stealing money from a foreign country with a military force. The problem is that this line of thinking assumes that 1) Jewish people all have the same opinion on Israel, and would all sell out the US to help Israel; and 2) Jewish people are so crafty and sneaky that they, by virtue of being the President’s son-in-law, can dictate US foreign policy. Both of these are based on old, gross, anti-Semitic canards. It’s just hatred of Jews gussied up with a veneer of concern about Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/58 "2015-10-16T18:55:31Z")
And you don’t see why that’s offensive? That anyone with connections to Jews is automatically suspected of dual loyalty? ETA: ninja’d. EETA: I should not be so dismissive. I made the same mistake myself once, and was corrected on these very boards. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/59 "2015-10-16T18:56:54Z")
That’s why I’d never vote for a Catholic. They’d just be taking marching orders from the Pope! ---
**Author:** ![Human\_Action](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@Human\_Action](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Human_Action)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2015, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/60 "2015-10-16T19:10:15Z")
And I learned two years ago that jobs were being offshored to China [because Mitch McConnell married a woman who moved to the US from Taiwan when she was 8.](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/26/progress-kentucky-mitch-mcconnell-wife_n_2767404.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770.md?page=4)