# Jewish influence over the president candidates (Trump and Clinton) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 16, 2015, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770 "2015-10-16T01:02:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/161 "2015-10-19T19:48:45Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > And the twist ending is he’s a lizard. Are lizards kosher? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/162 "2015-10-19T19:54:43Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Are lizards kosher? No, they do not have split hooves and chew cud. Which causes me to doubt Little Nemo. Unless, of course, it is yet another ingenious disguise. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/163 "2015-10-23T02:00:06Z")
I’ve not read the thread. It’s probably gone deep into both the very funny and the irritatingly offensive. Sounds like a cardiovascular workout. That said, I’m probably voting for a REAL LIFE JEW for President, so I’m not really that impressed by Trump and Clinton’s tenuous Jewish connections. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/164 "2015-10-23T02:08:33Z")
I’m holding out for an imaginary, on-line Jew myself. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/165 "2015-10-23T02:12:48Z")
> [@foolsguinea](#): > > I’ve not read the thread. It’s probably gone deep into both the very funny and the irritatingly offensive. Sounds like a cardiovascular workout. > > That said, I’m probably voting for a REAL LIFE JEW for President, so I’m not really that impressed by Trump and Clinton’s tenuous Jewish connections. And where the hell were you for Lieberman? :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![tooldtocare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@tooldtocare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tooldtocare)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/166 "2015-10-23T19:13:04Z")
> [@Construct](#): > > You can’t talk like that. That’s racist. You speak about “racists” so tell me, is the following racists tooo? The truth is NOT being told in the US press…,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,.,., WHY -? This forum speaks of Jewish Theology for Christians but seems to leave out the facts on the ground The report noted: “\*\*Attacks by extremist Israeli settlers \*\*against Palestinian residents, property, and places of worship in the West Bank continued and were and Shabtai Shavit, accused the Netanyahu government of not being interested in stopping hate crimes against Palestinians. .,.,.,…,.,. Netanyahu wasn’t really interested in stopping the perpetrators .,…largely unprosecuted according to UN and NGO sources.” On May 7, (2012) the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem, Fouad Twal, the Vatican’s representative in the Holy Land, released a statement **condemning a surge in hate crimes against Christian holy sites** ahead of Pope Francis’ visit to Israel and the occupied Palestinian territories later in the month, and **calling on the Israeli government to do more to protect Christians and their property**. Lamenting that the “ **wave of fanaticism and intimidation against Christians continues** ,” the Patriarch blamed the Israeli government for the lack of effort that Israeli police have put into bringing the perpetrators of hate crimes against Palestinians to justice, referring to a “lack of responsiveness from the political sector.” Four days later, on May 11, Patriarch Twal again questioned the Israeli government’s commitment to stopping **anti-Christian attacks** , .,., In occupied East Jerusalem, Christian clergy\*\* face harassment from ultra-Orthodox Jews in the Old City.\*\* In November 2011, Haaretz newspaper reported that ultra-Orthodox Jews were cursing and spitting at Christian clergy in the streets of the Old City “as a matter of routine.” The chief secretary of the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate explained: “It happens a lot. You walk down the street and **suddenly they spit at you for no reason**.” A student at the city’s Armenian Seminary complained that he was subjected to insults and **spitting from ultra-Orthodox men on a daily basis** , stating: “When I see an ultra-Orthodox man coming toward me in the street, I always ask myself if he will spit at me.” According to a separate Haaretzarticle published in February 2012, spitting incidents were so prevalent that some priests had stopped visiting certain parts of the Old City. [http://tinyurl.com/ooc4oou](http://tinyurl.com/ooc4oou) Note: It is not Muslim’s spitting on Christians, its Orthodox Jews in Jerusalem spitting on Christians and the US press has NEVER covered this I just wonder why, do you know perhaps-? Google it ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/167 "2015-10-23T19:16:56Z")
I think I understand who is behind threads like this. Big Ham. At first I thought Big Bacon, but they don’t need lobbyists. They have the Food Network. ---
**Author:** ![tooldtocare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@tooldtocare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tooldtocare)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/168 "2015-10-23T19:25:12Z")
**Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them** read more: [Christians in Jerusalem Want Jews to Stop Spitting on Them - Haaretz Com - Haaretz.com](http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/christians-in-jerusalem-want-jews-to-stop-spitting-on-them-1.137099) In a rare interview to the Israeli media just a month before he steps down from his current post, Pizzaballa cautioned Israelis over how Christians are treated here. “When you say ‘Christianity’ to the Israelis,” he said, “they immediately think of the Holocaust and the [Spanish] Inquisition. People don’t know that we are here and that we have roots [here],” adding that this attitude is reflected throughout Israeli society. In a reference to the long-standing, **continual incidents of Orthodox Jewish extremists in Jerusalem spitting at Christian clergy** , Pizzaballa said: “When I came to the country, I was told that I should know that if I walk around with a frock in the city [of Jerusalem], people would spit on me, and I shouldn’t be offended, it’s normal.” read more: [http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/senior-catholic-cleric-if-jews-want-respect-they-must-respect-others-1.463320](http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/senior-catholic-cleric-if-jews-want-respect-they-must-respect-others-1.463320) **Ultra-Orthodox Spitting Attacks on Old City Clergymen** Becoming Daily read more: > **[Ultra-Orthodox spitting attacks on Old City clergymen becoming daily](https://www.haaretz.com/2011-11-04/ty-article/ultra-orthodox-spitting-attacks-on-old-city-clergymen-becoming-daily/0000017f-e655-df5f-a17f-ffdf0ccf0000)** > > Clergymen in the Armenian Church in Jerusalem say they are victims of harassment, from senior cardinals to priesthood students; when they do complain, the police don't usually find the perpetrators. **Being spat at remains part of life for Christians in Jerusalem** [http://warincontext.org/2011/11/05/being-spat-on-remains-part-of-life-for-christians-in-jerusalem/](http://warincontext.org/2011/11/05/being-spat-on-remains-part-of-life-for-christians-in-jerusalem/) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/169 "2015-10-23T19:29:27Z")
What does that stuff have to do with the election, exactly? ---
**Author:** ![tooldtocare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@tooldtocare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tooldtocare)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/170 "2015-10-23T19:31:24Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > I think I understand who is behind threads like this…,.,.,.,.,… I am confused, “threads like this”? Are you referring to my previous posts or the forum I posted it in? You need to answer soon because I am sure I will be deleted & banned soon ---
**Author:** ![tooldtocare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@tooldtocare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tooldtocare)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/171 "2015-10-23T19:33:14Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What does that stuff have to do with the election, exactly? An earlier poster pointed out that Trump is Jewish or some members of his family, now what does that have to do with this thread? ---
**Author:** ![tooldtocare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@tooldtocare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tooldtocare)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/172 "2015-10-23T19:43:41Z")
I am voting for Hillary & I hope my two sons and their grown up kids do tooooooooo ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/173 "2015-10-23T19:50:11Z")
> [@tooldtocare](#): > > I am sure I will be deleted & banned soon Banned, possibly. Deleted, never. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/174 "2015-10-23T19:51:01Z")
> [@tooldtocare](#): > > An earlier poster pointed out that Trump is Jewish or some members of his family, now what does that have to do with this thread? What do Orthodox Jews spitting on people have to do with whether Trump is Jewish? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/175 "2015-10-23T19:52:37Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What do Orthodox Jews spitting on people have to do with whether Trump is Jewish? You need to read between the line, dude. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_stainless_steel_rat/32/5727_2.png) [@The\_Stainless\_Steel\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Stainless_Steel_Rat)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/176 "2015-10-23T19:54:21Z")
Up the Medication dosage, Nurse!! ---
**Author:** ![tooldtocare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@tooldtocare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tooldtocare)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/177 "2015-10-23T19:58:27Z")
> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#): > > If religion is _not_ the issue, though, why _not_ support Israel? It’s an oasis of democracy surrounded by dictatorial states ranging from relatively benign to full-on totalitarian. On that basis alone, they’d get _my_ sympathy. MOSSAD RUNS issis ISIS is run by the MOSSAD using weapons USA gave to Israel, go figure Israel ex-officer leads Ukraine protests: Reports Sunday Feb 16, 2014 Ukrainian media have reported that a\*\* former Israeli army officer\*\* is playing a leading role in the anti-government protests in the former Soviet republic. **Four other Israelis** , who had previously served in the army, were recently **reported to have taken part** in opposition rallies in Ukraine’s capital, Kiev. [http://thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/mossad.htm](http://thewe.cc/contents/more/archive/mossad.htm) **Mossad Agent** was an agent of the Israeli Mossad who was seen in MTAC, witnessing an operation that Mossad Officer Ziva David had acquired intel for. > **[Mossad Agent](https://ncis.fandom.com/wiki/Mossad_Agent)** > > Mossad Agent is an unnamed man. Nov 4, 2014 - The Islamic State group is the **creation of Israel’s Mossad** , Iran’s deputy foreign minister said Tuesday, accusing the spy agency of aiming to … > **[Senior Iran official: Israel's Mossad created ISIS](https://www.haaretz.com/2014-11-04/ty-article/iran-official-israels-mossad-created-isis/0000017f-f381-d497-a1ff-f381e24c0000)** > > Deputy foreign minister's accusation echoes many others, which abounded after an Iranian news report purportedly proving Islamic State's Israeli and American roots. Russian writer and political activist: **Mossad training ISIS terrorists in Iraq, Syria** > **[Russian writer and political activist: Mossad training ISIS terrorists in...](https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Top-Putin-aide-Mossad-training-ISIS-terrorists-in-Iraq-Syria-383964)** > > Alexander Prokhanov accuses Israel and the US of training the Islamic State in order to undermine Moscow’s interests in the Middle East. Isis claims responsibility for Texas attack No evidence Islamic State had actual hand in attack as details emerge about would-be gunmen Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi > **[Isis claims responsibility for Texas attack](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/may/05/isis-claims-responsibility-for-texas-atttack?CMP=ema_565)** > > No evidence Islamic State had actual hand in attack as details emerge about would-be gunmen Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi Israeli intelligence service, **Mossad** , has confirmed that the Israeli art students were, in fact, part of a major Israeli intelligence operation and that they **were conducting surveillance of the activities of the 9-11 hijackers**. They also worked with the Israeli Urban Moving System employees in New Jersey who were seen in at least two Jersey City locations – Liberty State Park and The Doric apartment building – celebrating the impact of the first plane into the World Trade Center. The Israelis at Liberty State Park \*\*were dressed in Arab-style clothing \*\*when they were witnessed celebrating the first attack. The FBI later confiscated a videotape they filmed of the first attack. [http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r](http://tinyurl.com/8ss8r7r) is this true? ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/178 "2015-10-23T20:29:11Z")
Oh please. ---
**Author:** ![tooldtocare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e19adc/32.png) [@tooldtocare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tooldtocare)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/179 "2015-10-23T20:59:02Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > What do Orthodox Jews spitting on people have to do with whether Trump is Jewish? Since Trump is Jewish I just wonder if Trump condones the “spitting” & if not will he publicly condemn such practice? I know most Americans are not even aware of this spitting thingee. The US news has never covered the practice & that too raises even more questions in my view ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2015, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770/180 "2015-10-23T21:18:14Z")
> [@tooldtocare](#): > > Since Trump is Jewish… Since when? The spitting does occur, it’s disgusting, but unfortunately not much is done about it. Since it is a practice of the ultra-orthodox I doubt any US president could make a difference. Why don’t you bring this topic up in it’s own thread? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-influence-over-the-president-candidates-trump-and-clinton/734770.md?page=10)