# Jewish Involvement in the TransAtlantic slave trade should be publicly researched... **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [July 28, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700 "2012-07-28T19:01:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tekefer007](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7cd45c/32.png) [@Tekefer007](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tekefer007)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/1 "2012-07-28T19:01:26Z")
Dr. Tony Martin was harassed out of his job because he was interested in bringing research on the involvement of Jews in the TransAtlantic slave trade and rates of “ownership” of enslaved African people by Jews to the light of day. Prof. Martin’s description of the events read like a mob extortion scheme designed to completely brush any information related to the topic under the rug with no questions asked. [http://www.blacksandjews.com/TonyMartin.html](http://www.blacksandjews.com/TonyMartin.html) This topic deserves thorough, fair and public scrutiny of all facts and discovery of any other facts that are relevant so that the general public can be informed. ---
**Author:** ![Smapti](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smapti/32/17938_2.png) [@Smapti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smapti)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/2 "2012-07-28T19:54:34Z")
I predict that this will end well. ---
**Author:** ![Saintly\_Loser](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saintly_loser/32/4045_2.png) [@Saintly\_Loser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saintly_Loser)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/3 "2012-07-28T20:27:37Z")
In the spirit of “thorough, fair and public scrutiny,” I read the linked-to article by Professor Tony Martin, who certainly appears to have legitimate and impressive academic credentials. I don’t have any opinions on Jewish involvement in the African slave trade. I simply don’t know anything about it one way or the other. I suppose it might be an interesting area for an historian to research, but I’m not a historian. Or an academic. Or especially knowledgeable about the slave trade. That said, Prof. Martin’s article certain contained some red flags. "The long arm of Jewish intolerance reached into my classroom. . . " A description of Prof. Henry Louis Gates of Harvard as “African America’s most notorious Judaeophile. . .” Again speaking of Prof. Gates, “The Jews unilaterally anointed Gates with the mantle of head African American scholar in charge of Black academia.” Speaking of Hillel, the Jewish students’ organziation, “Like their elders (for example in the American Israel Public Affairs Committee, by whom Hillel operatives are formally trained in the art of deception and dirty tricks), they evinced a bulldog-like instinct for going after the jugular of their intended victims.” “. . . the Jewish onslaught against me. . .” “. . . the Jewish rank and file simply fall in line. ‘Theirs not to make reply,/Theirs not to reason why,/ Theirs but to do and die…’ The power of the Jewish leadership over their constituency is impressive indeed, the presence of some dissenting voices notwithstanding. . .” “. . . the well-documented dirty tricks that the Jewish groups have used against me in the context of the well-documented dirty tricks that the Jewish groups have used against Andrew Young, Jesse Jackson, David Dinkins, Minister Louis Farrakhan, Len Jeffries, Black parents in Ocean Hill-Brownsville (Brooklyn) and any number of Euro-American individuals and organizations. . .” Professor Martin also recounts a conversation with someone, described as “the lady in charge,” at an unnamed “Jewish archive” that I find (admittedly without any factual knowledge of the conversation) incredible. Professor Martin’s language is the language of anti-semites. It may be that he himself is not an anti-semite. I don’t know. And his work may be legitimate history. If so, he does himself a disservice by using the language he uses. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/4 "2012-07-28T20:34:57Z")
> [@Saintly\_Loser](#): > > Professor Martin’s language is the language of anti-semites. It may be that he himself is not an anti-semite. I don’t know. If so, it’s his bad luck that he keeps accidentally using their language and ideas. [Here’s a little more about him.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Martin_(professor)) ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/5 "2012-07-28T20:35:10Z")
And I think there were Jews behind the rise of Justin Bieber, too. We need to make the people aware of such things! ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/6 "2012-07-28T20:37:09Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > And I think there were Jews behind the rise of Justin Bieber, too. You know, not many people know this, but Justin Bieber was a terrific dancer! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/7 "2012-07-28T20:47:53Z")
Ah yes, another race baiter with a July 2012 join date. What a terrible terrible shock that absolutely none of us saw coming. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/8 "2012-07-28T21:12:37Z")
Is it me, or has July 2012 been something like five months long? ---
**Author:** ![Covered\_In\_Bees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ab992/32.png) [@Covered\_In\_Bees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Covered_In_Bees)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/9 "2012-07-28T21:19:21Z")
Maybe it’s like car sales. We’re in 2012 but if I’m not mistaken, you can buy 2013 models. So maybe in April and June we started getting a steady flow of July models? ---
**Author:** ![Maserschmidt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/maserschmidt/32/18829_2.png) [@Maserschmidt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maserschmidt)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/10 "2012-07-28T21:28:08Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Is it me, or has July 2012 been something like five months long? Shhhhhhh, it still has 3 or 4 weeks left! ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/11 "2012-07-28T21:51:26Z")
> [@Chimera](#): > > Ah yes, another race baiter with a July 2012 join date. What a terrible terrible shock that absolutely none of us saw coming. Pretty much exactly what I was going to say. We all know the OP join date without even doing a mouseover for the thread preview. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/12 "2012-07-28T22:32:15Z")
> [@Tekefer007](#): > > This topic deserves thorough, fair and public scrutiny of all facts and discovery of any other facts that are relevant so that the general public can be informed. _None_ of these facts are relevant. Every one of these slavers is long dead. At best, it is pointless trivia. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/13 "2012-07-28T22:36:05Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > Is it me, or has July 2012 been something like five months long? No, it kinda seems that long to me too. I wonder if he wants to publicly research the involvement of American Christians in the slave trade. Seems pretty obvious there were a few involved, and you know, we should hold them accountable. ---
**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/14 "2012-07-28T22:39:22Z")
I’m still pissed the liberal media won’t publish my paper on how blacks caused the holocaust. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/15 "2012-07-28T22:41:56Z")
Wow. There’s a whole [Wiki](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_and_the_slave_trade) on this?! While Jews accounted for 1.25 per cent of slave owners, they apparently had little impact, and > [@](#): > > According to Seymour Drescher, Jews participated in the Atlantic slave trade, particularly in Brazil and Suriname,[83] however in no period did Jews play a leading role as financiers, shipowners, or factors in the transatlantic or Caribbean slave trades.[7] He said that Jews rarely established new slave-trading routes, but rather worked in conjunction with a Christian partner, on trade routes that had been established by Christians and endorsed by Christian leaders of nations.[84][85] In 1995 the American Historical Association (AHA) issued a statement, together with Drescher, condemning “any statement alleging that Jews played a disproportionate role in the Atlantic slave trade”.[86] > > Allegations that Jews had a major contribution to Atlantic slave trade were denied by David Brion Davis, who argued that Jews had no major or continuing impact on the history of New World slavery.[5] These charges were widely refuted by other scholars, as well.[3][4][6] While acknowledging Jewish participation in slavery, scholars reject allegations that Jews dominated the slave trade in Medieval Europe, Africa, and/or the Americas.[3][4] Why the OP is bitching about this and not the Rothschilds and George Soros and our domination of Nobel Prizes and whatever else we evil Jews are up to I donno. Of course Jews couldn’t function in the slave trade without their Christian and Muslim counterparts. Gosh, it just seems like everybody was involved! ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/16 "2012-07-28T22:43:32Z")
I will note that he’s posted 3 times and two of them were about the jews. Guess they ate his baby or stole his mortgage or something. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/17 "2012-07-28T22:44:58Z")
_burps_ ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/18 "2012-07-28T22:48:51Z")
A link to a website called blacksandjews dot com? Yeah, that sounds like a source for quality academic research. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/19 "2012-07-28T22:50:18Z")
> [@Farmer\_Jane](#): > > Why the OP is bitching about this and not the Rothschilds and George Soros and our domination of Nobel Prizes and whatever else we evil Jews are up to I donno. Admit it. You guys have taken over the government of Israel. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [July 28, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700/20 "2012-07-28T22:52:02Z")
Lol. “Jews control the government of Israel. I swear it’s true! It’s a Conspiracy!” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-involvement-in-the-transatlantic-slave-trade-should-be-publicly-researched/629700.md?page=2)