# Jewish stuff in money

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500>\
**Category:** Cecil's Columns/Staff Reports\
**Created:** [August 4, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500 "2011-08-04T20:07:52Z")\
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**Author:** ![Al\_in\_Pgh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dc4da7/32.png) [@Al\_in\_Pgh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al_in_Pgh)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/1 "2011-08-04T20:07:52Z")

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On the back of a $1 bill, the field of stars above the eagle is in the shape of a Star of David. Also, if you turn the bill upside down and look at the shield in front of the eagle, it resembles a menorah.

Al in Pgh

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**Author:** ![TSBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@TSBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TSBG)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/2 "2011-08-04T20:18:49Z")

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Column:

[Did Communist saboteurs sneak a hammer and sickle into the design of the Kennedy half dollar? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/554/did-communist-saboteurs-sneak-a-hammer-and-sickle-into-the-design-of-the-kennedy-half-dollar)

Plus Jews control the economy, amirite?

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/3 "2011-08-04T20:23:22Z")

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Both the stars and the shield are there because they are part of the [Great Seal of the United States](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States), and that side of the seal is based on the coat of arms of the United States. So the issue is not really about the dollar note, but about whether those Jewish designs are part of the official symbols of the United States.

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**Author:** ![SoulFrost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f07891/32.png) [@SoulFrost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SoulFrost)\
**Post date:** [August 4, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/4 "2011-08-04T20:48:52Z")

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Glad to see you back, **Pgh** …

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**Author:** ![flodnak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/838e76/32.png) [@flodnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flodnak)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/5 "2011-08-05T08:06:35Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> Both the stars and the shield are there because they are part of the [Great Seal of the United States](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Seal_of_the_United_States), and that side of the seal is based on the coat of arms of the United States. So the issue is not really about the dollar note, but about whether those Jewish designs are part of the official symbols of the United States.

The Great Seal of the United States was created in 1782 or thereabouts. The six-pointed star was not commonly referred to as the Star of David or associated with Judaism or Israel until over a century later.

Vertical stripes will resemble candles if you’re thinking of candles when you look at them.

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/6 "2011-08-05T09:33:08Z")

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> [@flodnak](#):
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> The Great Seal of the United States was created in 1782 or thereabouts. The six-pointed star was not commonly referred to as the Star of David or associated with Judaism or Israel until over a century later.
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> Vertical stripes will resemble candles if you’re thinking of candles when you look at them.

The star of David, formerly the shield of David, dates at least as far back in Hebrew symbolism as a 3rd century synagogue in Galilee. The symbol as it is today already represented the Jewish community internationally since the 18th century.

There is a legend that George Washington included the symbol in the design of the US Seal as a tip of the hat to [Haym Solomon](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haym_Solomon), a Jewish immigrant who helped finance the continental congress and a large part of the American revolution. It is an unproven legend, but the star of David as it looks today did exist as a Jewish symbol back then.

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**Author:** ![John\_W.Kennedy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_w.kennedy/32/1031_2.png) [@John\_W.Kennedy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_W.Kennedy)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/7 "2011-08-05T19:22:54Z")

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The main point of the stars in the Great Seal is that there are 13 of ’em.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [August 5, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/8 "2011-08-05T19:34:40Z")

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Didn’t Cecil discuss stars in his column on the flag, and point out that the six-pointed star was the more common form at that time, and that Washington actually preferred it?

Hmmm, can’t find that now. Apparently it’s not in the column, but I read it “somewhere”.

> **[How will stars be arranged on the flag if the U.S. ever has 51 states?](https://www.straightdope.com/21341956/how-will-stars-be-arranged-on-the-flag-if-the-u-s-ever-has-51-states)**

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**Author:** ![Crazyhorse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crazyhorse/32/31_2.png) [@Crazyhorse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crazyhorse)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/9 "2011-08-06T01:17:31Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Didn’t Cecil discuss stars in his column on the flag, and point out that the six-pointed star was the more common form at that time, and that Washington actually preferred it?
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> Hmmm, can’t find that now. Apparently it’s not in the column, but I read it “somewhere”.
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> [How will stars be arranged on the flag if the U.S. ever has 51 states? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/784/how-will-stars-be-arranged-on-the-flag-if-the-u-s-ever-has-51-states)

I could have sworn I remembered a column that discussed the various symbolism on the dollar bill, if not the Great Seal specifically. All the 13’s (arrows, stars, etc) the masonic(?) influence of the pyramid and/or all-seeing eye, hints of Illuminati involvement, good stuff. But I searched and searched and can’t find one. (\*By **Cecil** that is. Rumors, innuendo and unfounded claims on the subject abound in general).

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**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2011, 12:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jewish-stuff-in-money/591500/10 "2011-08-08T12:35:42Z")

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Cecil’s column about dollar bill symbolism: [Is the dollar bill’s eye-on-a-pyramid the symbol of a secret society? - The Straight Dope](http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/1064/is-the-dollar-bills-eye-on-a-pyramid-the-symbol-of-a-secret-society)  
It’s pretty much only about the eye-and-pyramid, alas.
