# "Jews totally run Hollywood" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 4, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058 "2010-10-04T22:41:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/261 "2010-10-26T03:52:34Z")
That is absurd Jack. What it really shows is that there is a (not a cabal, not a cabal!) group of Jews who overwhelmingly control Hollywood and who just happen to (not a cabal, not a cabal!) instinctively dominate the entire industry so that Jews get helped and Gentiles are harmed. Becaus Jews naturally do stuff like that… Er just like everybody else, of course. Duh. ---
**Author:** ![DSeid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dseid/32/20194_2.png) [@DSeid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DSeid)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/262 "2010-10-26T04:15:30Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > With that mindset, corporate discrimination would rarely be challenged, because the numbers usually can only be learned through discovery. (Depositions and written discovery.) Until then, you have to look at the circumstantial evidence that _is_ available. (Numbers in upper management for example.)… Well then, I would then very much like to have you reference a case in which such “circumstantial evidence”, numbers of one ethnic or racial group in upper management, was used to initiate a lawsuit, not dismissed before even discovery, and actual resulted in a finding of discrimination. there are lots of companies with all WASP management, industries even. Some with almost all Black management. Some even [explicitly so](http://www.rcfontis.com/news/PROCTER_GAMBLE_SELLS_JOHNSON_PRODUCTS_COMPANY/): > [@](#): > > … an African-American management team of industry veterans … Boy there must be lots of arched eyebrows going on. And there are surely a plethora of cases in which the numbers of one ethnicity at the top of a company has triggered lawsuits that have found meaningful data on discovery and prevailed. No, the dismissed Honda case is all you got? Huh. You better continue your good working as raising these questions then because it is tragic that no lawyers have taken up the charge. Well since no one else is doing so, feel free to call for an investigation into the fashion industry … I [hear](http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/08/fashion/thursdaystyles/08FASHION.html?pagewanted=all) (in the New York Times so you know it is researched fact) that it is dominated by gay males which is circumstantial evidence for discrimination against straights of both genders and lesbians. > [@](#): > > … the gay male dominance of the fashion industry, a peculiar and widely acknowledged circumstance … Arch that eyebrow and sue baby sue! And hey, I bet many of them are even gay and Jewish! The schmatta industry after all, just gussied up some. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2010, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/263 "2010-10-26T21:51:31Z")
Well, you know, they[sup]tm[/sup] also say that Hollywood is largely gay. You may be on to something. ---
**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/264 "2010-10-27T22:12:29Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > _Hurray for Hollywood!_ > > Mr. Stein caught himself in a semantic, Semitic trap. “The Jews” refers to Jews collectively. And when you assign the accomplishments of a few individuals to the group as a whole, well you’re just being an idiot. So I gather that synecdoche is not one of your favorite literary devices. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2010, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/265 "2010-10-27T22:29:25Z")
No, that’s not synechdoche. That’s the fallacy of composition. ---
**Author:** ![not\_alice](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_alice/32/7283_2.png) [@not\_alice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_alice)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/266 "2011-02-01T09:45:50Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > I went over all this before. You keep pretending that this is just a case of Jews being “overrepresented.” This goes well beyond being merely overrepresented. Jews in the legal profession are overrepresented, comprising 20% in the big firms compared with 1% of the population. > > The numbers in the entertainment industry, on the other hand, look absolutely _overwhelming_. Overwhelming to the point that it looks like prima facie statistical evidence of discrimination would be pretty easy to establish. Sorry if this is reviving a zombie, but just finding this thread now. Your preliminary statistical analysis is that it would be worth it for a plaintiff’s attorney to look into it. I get it. Now, what is the next level? Who precisely would you sue? What evidence would you expect to find during discovery to support your case? What if anything would cause you to drop the case? Or do you just see a payday in a settlement as the outcome? What would be the remedy after such an outcome? Similar to the agreement that I think either the NFL or MLB or both have to interview a certain number of non-white candidates for certain front office and possibly top level coaching jobs before making a hiring decision? If so, from whence would those qualified candidates come? ---
**Author:** ![not\_alice](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_alice/32/7283_2.png) [@not\_alice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_alice)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/267 "2011-02-01T09:55:26Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > So who’s resentful? > > This is a different animal. Nobody is preventing me from starting my own franchise. So the predominance of South Asians in the industry does me no harm. More power to them! > > On the other hand, if I want to pursue a career in Hollywood, it looks like there may be some roadblocks to success. As a budding, nearly middle aged, ethnically Jewish, but unconnected to Hollywood film producer, I find that a crock. Nothing is stopping you or anyone else from doing whatever you want in the entertainment business - if you have savvy and, well insight and chutzpah, you can start your own film studio. If you have your career path to have one of only 8 jobs in any category in America, well, your odd are long no matter what. But if you aim to compete in that industry, there are few that are more open, especially these days, then entertainment. ---
**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 9:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/268 "2011-02-01T09:58:05Z")
One thing people seem to be ignoring is that it’s not clear how many of these “Jews” in Hollywood actually consider themselves to be Jews. For example, Oliver Stone, Harrison Ford, and Zach Levi(the star of Chuck) are all of Jewish descent, but none were raised or appear to think of themselves as Jews. Levi is a devout Christian, Stone is a devout Buddhist who’s made statements which seem to indicate he doesn’t consider himself Jewish and Ford was raised Catholic but apparently isn’t religious anymore. I’m reminded of how many people identified Karl Marx as a Jew but ignored the fact that he was baptized and raised as a Lutheran never in any of his writings gave the slightest indication that he saw himself as a Jew. ---
**Author:** ![not\_alice](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/not_alice/32/7283_2.png) [@not\_alice](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/not_alice)\ **Post date:** [February 1, 2011, 11:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/269 "2011-02-01T11:22:38Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > One thing people seem to be ignoring is that it’s not clear how many of these “Jews” in Hollywood actually consider themselves to be Jews. > > For example, Oliver Stone, Harrison Ford, and Zach Levi(the star of Chuck) are all of Jewish descent, but none were raised or appear to think of themselves as Jews. > > Levi is a devout Christian, Stone is a devout Buddhist who’s made statements which seem to indicate he doesn’t consider himself Jewish and Ford was raised Catholic but apparently isn’t religious anymore. > > I’m reminded of how many people identified Karl Marx as a Jew but ignored the fact that he was baptized and raised as a Lutheran never in any of his writings gave the slightest indication that he saw himself as a Jew. Ahh but if it is a conspiracy, it matters not how you see yourself, but how those in power see you when they make decisions. ---
**Author:** ![Beware\_of\_Doug](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@Beware\_of\_Doug](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beware_of_Doug)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2011, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/270 "2011-02-06T01:47:28Z")
How true. When Marx broke with a dominant paradigm in political thought, he became Jew enough for anyone. One of the seemingly endless rationalizations for anti-semitism is that Jews think different. Indeed, the stigma against original thought is powerful enough that in many contexts, Jews are indeed the only ones who _do_ think different. ---
**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/271 "2011-02-07T01:38:23Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > One thing people seem to be ignoring is that it’s not clear how many of these “Jews” in Hollywood actually consider themselves to be Jews. > > For example, Oliver Stone, Harrison Ford, and Zach Levi(the star of Chuck) are all of Jewish descent, but none were raised or appear to think of themselves as Jews. > > Levi is a devout Christian, Stone is a devout Buddhist who’s made statements which seem to indicate he doesn’t consider himself Jewish and Ford was raised Catholic but apparently isn’t religious anymore. > > I’m reminded of how many people identified Karl Marx as a Jew but ignored the fact that he was baptized and raised as a Lutheran never in any of his writings gave the slightest indication that he saw himself as a Jew. I found this interesting. I think it’s mostly nepotism. Hiring your own. Not unique to the Jews. I think nepotism is equally as rife in the acting industry if not even more so. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/272 "2011-02-07T02:07:41Z")
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