# "Jews totally run Hollywood" **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 4, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058 "2010-10-04T22:41:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 9:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/61 "2010-10-06T09:52:19Z")
Jews must have some special Hollywood mogul genes. Wonder why no one has brought that up yet? ---
**Author:** ![Leaking\_Boot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e68b1a/32.png) [@Leaking\_Boot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaking_Boot)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/62 "2010-10-06T12:04:29Z")
I’m very surprised that no one has thrown the handsome and insane Mr Gibson into the mix yet. So who runs Bollywood? Methodists? ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/63 "2010-10-06T12:19:00Z")
Let’s say that a group of Jews really do control the media to the near exclusion of all others and that the State of Israel is totally evil. Why, **Captain Midnight** , am I to blame? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 1:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/64 "2010-10-06T13:19:39Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > “Jews run the media” canards aside, don’t the numbers suggest some discriminatory hiring practices? We have laws dealing with that sort of thing. If you think there’s been discrimination, you should file a complaint. But be vewy vewy careful. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/65 "2010-10-06T14:01:46Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > “Jews run the media” canards aside, don’t the numbers suggest some discriminatory hiring practices? Unless you know the numbers of qualified applicants, and their nationalities, and a few other variables (like specific employment costs, do many Gentiles have to relocate and therefore require a larger hiring fee?) it doesn’t suggest anything more than Jews are good at making people forget their stress for an hour or so at a time. Which is a great talent to have, it saved a Persian princes for 1001 Arabian nights, I guess we Jews figure if we make you unclean masses (Gentiles) laugh enough, you’ll stop trying to enslave and/or kill all of us. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/66 "2010-10-06T14:35:31Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > > [@Spoke](#): > > > > “Jews run the media” canards aside, don’t the numbers suggest some discriminatory hiring practices? > > We have laws dealing with that sort of thing. If you think there’s been discrimination, you should file a complaint. Well, I’m just a simple country lawyer, but yes, you’re right, there **are** laws. And what I am saying is that these numbers suggest that the industry is ripe for litigation. Employment discrimination is subtle and difficult to prove, but one method of proving it is with statistical evidence. And those statistics look overwhelming. **Todderbob** is quite right that you’d need to know more particulars about hiring practices in the industry and circumstances in particular cases. That’s what depositions are for. If I were a disappointed but well-qualified jobseeker (or an attorney who represented one), I’d seriously think about pursuing a claim. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/67 "2010-10-06T14:40:54Z")
But you’ll never work in this town again. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/68 "2010-10-06T15:06:10Z")
[QUOTE=Spoke;12995089Well, I’m just a simple country lawyer, but yes, you’re right, there **are** laws. And what I am saying is that these numbers suggest that the industry is ripe for litigation.[/QUOTE] What numbers? Can you give us totals for numbers of jobs and applicants in the industry, broken down by ethnic parameters? ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/69 "2010-10-06T15:52:25Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > > [@suranyi](#): > > > > In fact, until the 1970s, there were hardly any Jewish characters in the movies, despite the huge number of Jews in the industry. So it makes no sense to ask if they were portrayed well or badly. They pretty much didn’t exist at all. > > Very true. Consider the Dick van Dyke show. Here we have a comedy writer’s room, patterned after Your Show of Shows, with token Morey Amsterdam. He was at least Jewish in one show, where he got bar mitzvahed. It was kind of like shows a few years ago that noted that some character was gay, to the surprise of no one. > > And despite the massive amounts of anti-Semitism before WW II, Hollywood only did a movie on it (Gentlemen’s Agreement) after the war when no one could object vocally. Interestingly,\*\*\* Gentleman’s Agreement \*\*\*was produced by Darryl Zanuck, one of the only studio chiefs in his day who WASN’T Jewish! There’s no question that, in Hollywood’s so-called Golden Age, Jewish studio chiefs gave the Catholic Church the best press it’s even gotten! The idealized Catholic priests played by guys like Spencer Tracy, Bing Crosby and Pat O’Brien usually appeared in movies that were green-lighted by Jack Warner, Sam Goldwyn, Louis B. Mayer or Harry Cohn. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/70 "2010-10-06T16:00:27Z")
Well, _someone_ has to run Hollywood. I just always thought it was a bunch of white men smoking big cigars. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/71 "2010-10-06T16:15:41Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > [QUOTE=Spoke;12995089Well, I’m just a simple country lawyer, but yes, you’re right, there **are** laws. And what I am saying is that these numbers suggest that the industry is ripe for litigation.[/QUOTE] > What numbers? The numbers in the OP. > [@](#): > > Can you give us totals for numbers of jobs and applicants in the industry, broken down by ethnic parameters? No; that’s what discovery is for. But the CEO numbers suggest a pattern that a plaintiff’s lawyer would find very encouraging. ---
**Author:** ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/72 "2010-10-06T16:22:33Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > What numbers? > > The numbers in the OP. > > > [@](#): > > > > Can you give us totals for numbers of jobs and applicants in the industry, broken down by ethnic parameters? > > No; that’s what discovery is for. But the CEO numbers suggest a pattern that a plaintiff’s lawyer would find very encouraging. Just curious - Has anyone ever succeeded in suing an entire industry for having a disproportunate number of a certain ethnicity represented in it? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/73 "2010-10-06T16:26:14Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > What numbers? > > The numbers in the OP. > > > [@](#): > > > > Can you give us totals for numbers of jobs and applicants in the industry, broken down by ethnic parameters? > > No; that’s what discovery is for. Ah, so you have no idea, but are depending on a list in the OP whose comprehensiveness and significance are unclear, but you just _know_ that it “suggests” discrimination. It would not surprise me if some “motivated” person came up with a list of leaders/executives in interior design and breathlessly announced that they were all homosexual, and that this dominance was part of a sinister plan to introduce the Gay Agenda into American homes and turn our children gay. Or that at least it proves discrimination. Interestingly, if you Google “list Jews run Hollywood” you come up with an array of Concerned Citizens who throw up their hands in horror over what their lists show. They include [radioislam.org](http://radioislam.org), [rense.com](http://rense.com) (a hotbed of rabid anti-Semitism) and the charmingly named [jewwatch.com](http://jewwatch.com). Nice company to keep. ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/74 "2010-10-06T16:29:54Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Ah, so you have no idea, but are depending on a list in the OP whose comprehensiveness and significance are unclear, but you just _know_ that it “suggests” discrimination. Stein says he could only find six (five as it turned out) non-Jews in high positions in the trade. > [@](#): > > It would not surprise me if some “motivated” person came up with a list of leaders/executives in interior design and breathlessly announced that they were all homosexual, and that this dominance was part of a sinister plan to introduce the Gay Agenda into American homes and turn our children gay. Or that at least it proves discrimination. Yes, of course. Joel Stein is a noted anti-Semite. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/75 "2010-10-06T16:40:29Z")
And just to be clear, I am not suggesting anything more sinister than a good-old-boy network. But the numbers certainly do suggest such a network. And of such stuff successful discrimination suits are made. ---
**Author:** ![Fotheringay-Phipps](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d9b06d/32.png) [@Fotheringay-Phipps](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fotheringay-Phipps)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/76 "2010-10-06T17:01:30Z")
[Do Jews Really Control the Media?](http://www.slate.com/id/2270045/) Worth a read, for some perspective. ---
**Author:** ![Todderbob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e47774/32.png) [@Todderbob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Todderbob)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/77 "2010-10-06T17:08:54Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > Ah, so you have no idea, but are depending on a list in the OP whose comprehensiveness and significance are unclear, but you just _know_ that it “suggests” discrimination. > > Stein says he could only find six (five as it turned out) non-Jews in high positions in the trade. Well, if he says it, it must be true. How hard did he look? How many positions are “high”? CEO? CFO? Producer? Director? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/78 "2010-10-06T20:23:12Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > > [@Jackmannii](#): > > > > It would not surprise me if some “motivated” person came up with a list of leaders/executives in interior design and breathlessly announced that they were all homosexual, and that this dominance was part of a sinister plan to introduce the Gay Agenda into American homes and turn our children gay. Or that at least it proves discrimination. > > Yes, of course. Joel Stein is a noted anti-Semite. :rolleyes: A predictable response. I love the assumption that “Jews Control Hollywood” must be true and the list solid gold evidence because a Jewish guy wrote a column about it. After all, he’s in the Brotherhood, knows the secret handshake and sits in the secret cabals and everything! Except Stein’s column does zero to document exactly what constitutes power to decide what appears in Hollywood films or demonstrate that The Juwes At The Top are manipulating films to promote an Agenda or make Jewish characters in movies seem sympathetic\* (how many times have you seen the horns and tail in a Hollywood feature film - now really?). I didn’t see Stein making these arguments, but bigots like the ones I referred to do. If I had those folks on my team I’d feel kinda crawly. \*or as one of our not-a-bigot posters suggested, projecting a positive aura for such characters but being _very careful_ to give them a minor defect or two, so they don’t look _too_ good and raise suspicions among the sheeple. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/79 "2010-10-06T20:28:34Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Except Stein’s column does zero to document exactly what constitutes power to decide what appears in Hollywood films or demonstrate that The Juwes At The Top are manipulating films to promote an Agenda or make Jewish characters in movies seem sympathetic\* (how many times have you seen the horns and tail in a Hollywood feature film - now really?). I didn’t see Stein making these arguments, but bigots like the ones I referred to do. You seem to have conjured up an army of evil phantoms to fight because I never said or suggested any of those things. I simply said that the numbers suggest a good-old-boy network, which may be putting these companies at risk of a discrimination suit. Good luck with your phantoms. I hope you win! ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058/80 "2010-10-07T02:53:39Z")
> [@Spoke](#): > > You seem to have conjured up an army of evil phantoms to fight because I never said or suggested any of those things. I didn’t say you did. I pointed out your lack of evidence for a discrimination case, which you base on a list of executives published in a newspaper column and seem to feel compelling based on the ethnicity of the writer. The fact remains that a number of people (including some posters here) see this as proof of Jews Running Hollywood To Benefit The Jewish Agenda. It would be nice to hear that you don’t buy into this garbage. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jews-totally-run-hollywood/556058.md?page=5)