# JFK Assassination Poll

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [November 21, 2003, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437 "2003-11-21T03:30:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bucky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Bucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bucky)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/61 "2003-11-22T21:46:01Z")

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Sharpshooter Ted Williams did it to prove to DiMaggio what a stand-up guy he was. It was all orchestrated by Yogi Berra.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/62 "2003-11-22T21:56:00Z")

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Joke: How many dopers does it take to say the same thing? Answer: too flippin many.  
Not funny, I know.

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**Author:** ![HPL](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/3da27b/32.png) [@HPL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HPL)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/63 "2003-11-22T22:31:09Z")

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Theory #1:

I believe it was the alien snake people, who currently run the world with help of the freemasons, the illuminati, the rand corporation, the reverse vampires, FEMA and halliburton.

They killed JFK to keep him from revealing that the moon landing was faked.

Theory #2:

An ancient Egyption mummy wearing a stetson and cowboy boots killed JFK. Fortunatly, Elvis killed the mummy soon afterwards.

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**Author:** ![Blonde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Blonde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blonde)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/64 "2003-11-22T23:01:23Z")

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For those who wonder what all the hoopla is about: it’s an open wound in my town, and it’s likely we will always mourn on Nov. 22. Of course, Bobby was killed in L.A. and MLK in Memphis, and one doesn’t hear much about those cities “living down” the shame. The reason: they don’t bear the weight of having the President of the U.S. murdered on their downtown street.

It’s a rather solemn day here in the Big D.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2003, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/65 "2003-11-22T23:15:42Z")

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Serious Answer-

Oswald acted alone.

The CIA, FBI then went around covering things up for various reasons. First, concealing information is just what they do-for national security, because it might compromise an ongoing investigation or operation, because it might expose an old operation or investigation which is still classified etc. Second, there was likely some aspecting of covering their asses. Finally, I wonder if some of it wasn’t deliberately conspicous in order to contribute to conspiracy theory. As has often been said, it’s more comforting to think Kennedy was killed by some vast secret conspiracy than it is to think that a single man can kill the President. It also ties in to the second reason. A lone nut kills the President. Then, another lone nut kills Oswald while he’s surrounded by police. Rather than look incompetent, the authorities can blame a vast and powerful cabal.

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**Author:** ![koeeoaddi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/koeeoaddi/32/408_2.png) [@koeeoaddi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/koeeoaddi)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 2:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/66 "2003-11-23T02:24:32Z")

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I used to think it was Sir William Gull along with John Netley to cover up the marriage between Prince Eddy and Annie Crook, but now I think it might have been Walter Sickert. Guess we’ll never know.

Sorry?  
Lee Harvey Oswald. Alone.

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**Author:** ![Violet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Violet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Violet)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/67 "2003-11-23T06:00:31Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ccwaterback \*  
> \*\*Interesting connection in the Florida Keys:
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> [http://keysnews.com/297891154517275.bsp.htm](http://keysnews.com/297891154517275.bsp.htm) \*\*

Interesting. And I have ben to No Name Key. There is a bar there with dollars all over the ceiling.

For the Poll: I do not know. I have not read enough. But I cannot say that Oswald did it alone _beyond a reasonable doubt._

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 2:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/68 "2003-11-23T14:05:12Z")

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> There still is some information that is not to be released for about another 25 years. I can remember wondering as a young person if I would still be alive. (Now I’m wondering as an old person.) What is it they still need to keep secret – especially when so few people concerned are still living?

On the other hand, the vast majority of the info was released within 3 years of the murder.

I know I already voted, but I wanted to cite the AP story that ran today that said 70% of Americans believe there was a conspiracy, and mentions that Jesse Ventura (who spoke in Dallas the other day) is sure there was a conspiracy. As if I needed more convincing that there wasn’t one. 😉

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Zero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c4cdca/32.png) [@Saint\_Zero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Zero)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/69 "2003-11-23T14:38:30Z")

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I firmly believe there’s a conspiracy to keep this crap up every year. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Eve](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Eve](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eve)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/70 "2003-11-23T17:24:16Z")

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> \*Originally posted by stormchaser \*  
> \*\*uummm I have a silly question-----who cares???  
> It happened 40 years ago-- and knowing or not knowing is’nt going to change it. \*\*

I have a silly question, too: why not think, “what am I contributing here?” before hitting “submit reply?”

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**Author:** ![JoeElliott](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/dfb087/32.png) [@JoeElliott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeElliott)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/71 "2003-11-23T17:40:04Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Khadaji \*  
> \*\*Oswald alone. I find it too difficult to believe in consiracies. Clinton couldn’t even get is willy wet in the White House without everyone knowing, but something this big could be covered up?
> 
> CalMeacham, I was originally going to say Colonel Mustard! You were too quick for me! \*\*

The more outrageous the truth is the harder it is to believe. This is not to say that I necessarily believe there was a conspiracy in this case. It’s just that it isn’t hard to believe that it could be covered up. Most people simply think it is too preposterous to believe.

Joe Elliott  
[http://members.aol.com/joe4jesus/index.htm](http://members.aol.com/joe4jesus/index.htm)

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/72 "2003-11-23T17:54:14Z")

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Just 'cause I can, I’m gonna branch out a bit.

Okay, first off, LHO did it all by his lonesome. This much is indispuatable. There were a whole bunch of groups who wanted Kennedy dead, but none of them were actual participants. At most a bottom-runger or two may have approached him at some point, but there was never, ever any actual assistance. (In fact, when you think about it, it makes _more_ sense that they’d give him an idea but not actually do anything…y’know, get what you want and not face any consequences?)

Jack Ruby was acting on a wild, I’m-gonna-be-dead-anyway-so-what-the-hell hero impulse.

And the movie JFK was actually more about distrust of our federal government and the _possibility_ of conspiracies than the assassination itself. Remember, nearly every potential consiprator mentioned is either exonerated or simply forgotten at the end (remember the scene where a member of the prosecution proposes _framing_ the Mafia simply because they’re an easier target?). The man on trial doesn’t represent “the homosexual community” or whatever garbage; he’s an ally of the CIA who just happens to be a prominent homosexual. EVERYTHING in the trial says that the government did it and everything else is a red herring. So to claim that Oliver Stone thinks “everyone did it” is ludicrous. Don’t forget, too, that the suspect is ultimately acquitted…in other words, the prosecutor (Jack Garrison? Sorry, it’s been a while.) _didn’t even have the right guy_. I think this was a nice touch. Even a total sleazeball is sometimes innocent; even good guys can make mistakes.

I’m with Roger Ebert on this one. I don’t have a flarkin’ clue whether Stone knows who did it or not. Doesn’t mean it isn’t a riveting movie.

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/73 "2003-11-23T19:22:33Z")

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A conspiracy…of one. Owald acting alone. Not a shred of credible evidence suggests otherwise…

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**Author:** ![daniel801](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b2d939/32.png) [@daniel801](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/daniel801)\
**Post date:** [November 23, 2003, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/74 "2003-11-23T19:33:35Z")

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Oswald did it. Now, his motivation is still up for debate in my opinion. If it were some conspiracy, I don’t know why you would have more than one shooter anyway.

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/75 "2003-11-24T04:01:49Z")

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Oswald, acting alone **and aiming at Connally**.

Ruby can burn in hell. By “sparing” Mrs. Kennedy a trial, he deprived her and everyone else of **closure**.

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**Author:** ![NotWithoutRage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/22d042/32.png) [@NotWithoutRage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NotWithoutRage)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/76 "2003-11-24T14:33:26Z")

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LHO did it, probably, but was hired by LBJ to do so.

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**Author:** ![Philster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/13edae/32.png) [@Philster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Philster)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/77 "2003-11-24T14:53:39Z")

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Oswald. Alone.

Of course a character lile LHO would know other shadey which would allow you to draw all sorts of conclusions. Cripes, using six degress of seperation, you could say the conspiracy involved Kevin Bacon.

This is what Conspiracy believers always miss: That you can take anyone and make all these whacky connections. Take a nut job like LHO and OF COURSE there are bizzare connections to bizzare people! DUH!

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**Author:** ![Largo62](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/45deac/32.png) [@Largo62](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Largo62)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/78 "2003-11-24T15:08:12Z")

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Peter Jennings must be very pleased. I don’t think anything like this concensus has been achieved before. It’s amazing what you can accomplish with computer graphics. Kennedy gets hit with bullets and Keanu Reeves dodges them. We’ve seen both demonstrated graphically by computer. How could we doubt it?

Ever the skeptic, put me in the “I don’t know” column.

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**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/79 "2003-11-24T15:45:18Z")

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I’m not usually a contrarian, but I don’t believe LHO was alone in the endeavor. Was there a second gunman? No. Did someone else know what was going to happen? Yes. Am I a conspiracy theorist in a tin foil hat? Nope. I haven’t a clue as to who or why, but something else was going on.

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**Author:** ![Futile\_Gesture](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f05b48/32.png) [@Futile\_Gesture](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Futile_Gesture)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2003, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination-poll/214437/80 "2003-11-24T15:51:40Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Lobsang \*  
> **Joke: How many dopers does it take to say the same thing? Answer: too flippin many.**

> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Eve \*  
> \*\*I have a silly question, too: why not think, “what am I contributing here?” before hitting “submit reply?” \*\*

## I thought the idea of **Polls** was that everyone was allowed to give their opinion??

Oswald. One insignificant nutcase + poor security procedures = dead President.

There was a programme on BBC2 last night about it all. It was very convincing. It had a computer animation based on all the film footage with all-angles coverage. The undeniable conclusion was the shots came from the bookstore and there alone.

On top of that Oswald was by far the most likely person to have fired them, and he was completely capable of doing so. There’s no evidence to suggest anyone else. That doesn’t rule out a conspiracy, but there is no credible evidence to support one either.

And Oliver Stone’s ‘JFK’ was a heap of crock with half-truth’s, inventions and distortions presented as an historical re-enactment.

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