# JFK Assassination **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 11, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942 "2013-02-11T05:05:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/181 "2023-06-28T20:03:47Z")
I was afraid it would turn out that Oswald was a clown in a Gorillagram costume wearing an Oswald disguise. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/182 "2023-06-28T20:05:48Z")
Don’t always assume that Wikipedia always gets things right, Wikipedia is not the gospel. How far away from the movie theater is Brewer’s store? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/183 "2023-06-28T20:10:50Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > Don’t always assume that Wikipedia always gets things right, Wikipedia is not the gospel. Few things are the gospel. That’s why, for example, when you said _“Most official estimates have his time of arrival at or before 1:30pm central time”_, I asked you how the other official estimates put it. Still waiting on that, as it happens. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/184 "2023-06-28T20:12:30Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > Don’t always assume that Wikipedia always gets things right, Wikipedia is not the gospel. They cite their sources. What are _your_ sources? ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/185 "2023-06-28T20:17:21Z")
Yes, my use of the term undetermined is vague. We don’t know exactly to the second or minute how long or the duration of the following: How long did it take Oswald to go from shooting JFK to stepping out of the building? Once he left the building, how long did it take Oswald to walk to the bus stop? How long was the busride? How much time went by before Oswald stepped into the cab? How long was the cab ride? How long was Oswald at home? And once he stepped out of the house, how much time went by before Tippet’s murder? After the murder, how long did it take Oswald to get to the movie theater? I simply do not believe that Oswald could do all of this stuff in one hour. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/186 "2023-06-28T20:20:27Z")
That’s a fair question. Once I finally got around to asking the factual question, I thought it would be OK, before the answers started rolling in, to just give my take on Oswald and the timeline. ---
**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/187 "2023-06-28T20:20:50Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > I simply do not believe that Oswald could do all of this stuff in one hour. Without knowing “exactly to the second or minute how long or the duration” of the preceding you have absolutely no basis for your belief. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/188 "2023-06-28T20:24:30Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > That’s a fair question. _More_ than fair, considering the source _you_ have questioned cites what it posts. Please answer the question. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Varn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/michael_varn/32/14411_2.png) [@Michael\_Varn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Varn)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/189 "2023-06-28T20:33:10Z")
Here is what I am saying: I believe that the timeline as described in the Warren Report may not be accurate. The only thing we know for sure to the second, is that three shots rang out at 12:30pm central time. The back end of this timeline is also confirmed by Oswald’s arrest at 1:51pm central time. Oswald’s arrival at the movie theater is just an approximation as per eyewitnesses. Now just because the Warren Report may have made a mistake with the timeline, which I think they did, does NOT mean that this mistake was an intentional act to cover up a conspiracy. I could be wrong, there may not have been any body double of Oswald involved in any way. So in the final analysis, there needs to be a brand new forensic investigation to determine exactly how much real time it took for Oswald to go from point A to point Z in the timeline. It is most probably more than one hour. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/190 "2023-06-28T20:36:30Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > What if there was “another” Oswald? [https://www.jfk-assassination.net/2oswalds.htm](https://www.jfk-assassination.net/2oswalds.htm) > These theories have been around for a long time, dating back to 1966 when philosopher Richard Popkin published _The Second Oswald_ . > If there were two Oswalds, then only one of them could be buried in [“Lee Oswald’s grave” in the Rose Hill Cemetery in Fort Worth](https://www.jfk-assassination.net/leegrave.jpg). > Conclusion > So is there nothing at all to the “two Oswalds” theories? No, nothing at all. The whole rickety structure is built on unreliable witness testimony, carefully selected and inaccurate documents, and a mountain of implausible supposition. > [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > I could be wrong, there may not have been any body double of Oswald involved in any way. Yeah, you’re wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/191 "2023-06-28T20:44:25Z")
> [@crowmanyclouds](#): > > I was afraid it would turn out that Oswald was a clown in a Gorillagram costume wearing an Oswald disguise. JFK was actually killed by DB Cooper. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/192 "2023-06-28T20:44:45Z")
> [@Michael\_Varn](#): > > I believe that the timeline as described in the Warren Report may not be accurate. Based on what? Have you ever been to Dallas to see the locations yourself? Things have changed but you know the addresses so you could see how far apart these places were. Do you think that nobody attempted to follow the reported course as described in the time line to see if the times agree? ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/193 "2023-06-28T20:45:25Z")
And DB Cooper was actually Woody Harrelson’s father. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/194 "2023-06-28T20:46:37Z")
I thought Ted Cruz was DB Harrelson’s father. Or was it Woody Cooper? Maybe it was DB Cruz… ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/195 "2023-06-28T20:50:18Z")
Since this thread has taken a left turn right out of FQ territory, I think it’s best just to close this. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [June 28, 2023, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/196 "2023-06-28T20:50:22Z")
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