# JFK Assassination **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [February 11, 2013, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942 "2013-02-11T05:05:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/141 "2013-02-17T19:31:27Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > Just a question to any CT believers out there: What is the minimum number of people you believe would have had to have been involved to keep the conspiracy a secret for 50 years? Wrong question, IMHO. Or you’ve worded it poorly. The way I’ve usually seen it posited is “How many people would have to be involved, with full knowledge, to make the conspiracy possible?” The followup is then “Do you believe that many people could have maintained absolute silence for 50 years?” Most CTs would require at least a dozen inside people. Some would literally require thousands. ETA: FWIW, the \*one \*alternate theory I leave room for is that Oswald discussed his plans with one or more people, of little or no significance, who were indeed wise enough to keep their traps shut. Or died before ever being tempted to speak up. It’s possible a letter, diary or deathbed admission could come to light even this far down the road. I do \*not \*extend this thinking to the participation of anyone who materially assisted or advanced the assassination. ---
**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/142 "2013-02-17T21:13:56Z")
I’m reasonably certain Oswald posted his plans on Facebook. ---
**Author:** ![Leo\_Bloom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leo_bloom/32/10377_2.png) [@Leo\_Bloom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Bloom)\ **Post date:** [February 17, 2013, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/143 "2013-02-17T23:15:44Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > I’m reasonably certain Oswald posted his plans on Facebook. Just have to find who friended him. Boom, right there. Conspirators. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/144 "2013-02-18T02:45:58Z")
> [@jtgain](#): > > 1. A grassy knoll shooting. Actually, a careful listening to the audiotapes of the investigation reveals they tought a gassy troll was involved prominently. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/145 "2013-02-18T03:26:25Z")
> [@Leo\_Bloom](#): > > Just have to find who friended him. Boom, right there. Conspirators. You ijjits, Facebook didn’t exist in Oswald’s day. It was MySpace. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/146 "2013-02-18T03:36:39Z")
You’re all wrong. You have to ask who was on his [FAPA](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_Amateur_Press_Association) distribution list. The hectograph stains on the grassy knoll are a dead giveaway. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/147 "2013-02-18T15:33:37Z")
> [@BMalion](#): > > I’m reasonably certain Oswald posted his plans on Facebook. There actually are several “Lee Harvey Oswald” accounts on FB plus a “Lee Harvey Oswald is Innocent!” group. ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/148 "2013-02-18T16:38:46Z")
> [@NitroPress](#): > > This makes no real sense at all. Do you really think that if solid evidence came to light that Castro or the mob was behind it, the men of the Commission would have whitewashed it to protect the dead man’s reputation? > > Exercise for the reader: go look up the Commission members and study their biographies. List the ones you think would be prone to distorting truth and promoting a coverup. List any you think might have been less than of the highest possible honesty, integrity and duty to task. > > Only by turning them into faceless drones, sock puppets of Our Real Masters, can you dismiss their findings. They were neither. Your comment makes no sense. I never said (or implied) that Castro and the Mob were behind the killing. What I said was, the Warren Commission most likely did NOT look at all the connections that the CIA had with the Mob. The reason for this, is that such revelations would be highly embarrassing. The Johnson administration did not want anything to come out on this, so no such pathways were ever looked at by the commission. What if it came out that Oswald was working for the CIA? Then you would have an agency of the US government working with a nut who killed a president. That would NOT look good for the CIA or the government. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/149 "2013-02-18T16:49:28Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Your comment makes no sense. I never said (or implied) that Castro and the Mob were behind the killing. What I said was, the Warren Commission most likely did NOT look at all the connections that the CIA had with the Mob. The reason for this, is that such revelations would be highly embarrassing. The Johnson administration did not want anything to come out on this, so no such pathways were ever looked at by the commission. What if it came out that Oswald was working for the CIA? Then you would have an agency of the US government working with a nut who killed a president. That would NOT look good for the CIA or the government. If this is true, what should we conclude from this omission? ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [February 18, 2013, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/150 "2013-02-18T16:51:20Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > Your comment makes no sense. I never said (or implied) that Castro and the Mob were behind the killing. What I said was, the Warren Commission most likely did NOT look at all the connections that the CIA had with the Mob. The reason for this, is that such revelations would be highly embarrassing. The Johnson administration did not want anything to come out on this, so no such pathways were ever looked at by the commission. What if it came out that Oswald was working for the CIA? Then you would have an agency of the US government working with a nut who killed a president. That would NOT look good for the CIA or the government. I will stand by my comment. You are supposing that the commission members would have avoided an unpalatable truth in favor of an even more unpalatable lie. You’re welcome to review the long, long list of interviews conducted by the commission and outline any gaps you perceive. > [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > If this is true, what should we conclude from this omission? Step 1: demonstrate that there _is_ an omission. Even **ralph** ’s wording is qualified. The what-if of a what-if is what’s generated the mountains of trash related to the event. ---
**Author:** ![stoplight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@stoplight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stoplight)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/151 "2013-11-08T02:47:31Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > As has already been demonstrated, a “back and to the left” head snap indicates a shot from the rear, not from the front. The Zapruder film doesn’t prove what you say it proves. I would agree the head shot came from the rear but most likely not from Oswald. Perhaps someone can explain Four things. First the entrance wound to Kennedy’s neck was a different size then the entrance wound to the back of his head, why? second the so called magic bullet fired from the Mannlicher penetrated both Kennedy and Connolly and remained wholly in tact while the bullet with the different sized entrance wound to the back of Kennedy’s head cause a large exit wound? why? and not one aspect of that bullet was ever found why? The flight of the neck shot and the head shot should have traveled at the same speed and same angle downward, if true why was the exit wound from the head shot in the top of the skull instead of the facial area? ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/152 "2013-11-08T03:05:11Z")
i’m probably gonna regret getting into this, but … > [@stoplight](#): > > First the entrance wound to Kennedy’s neck was a different size then the entrance wound to the back of his head, why? It’s been years since I’ve been deer hunting, but I remember that rifle exit holes were commonly a different size, usually larger. > [@stoplight](#): > > The flight of the neck shot and the head shot should have traveled at the same speed and same angle downward, if true why was the exit wound from the head shot in the top of the skull instead of the facial area? Gee, ya think maybe the head moved after the first 2 shots? ---
**Author:** ![stoplight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@stoplight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stoplight)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/153 "2013-11-08T03:38:23Z")
> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > i’m probably gonna regret getting into this, but … > It’s been years since I’ve been deer hunting, but I remember that rifle exit holes were commonly a different size, usually larger. > Gee, ya think maybe the head moved after the first 2 shots? first two shots? are saying he was hit three times? look at a picture before the head shot and the position of his head. Again…Kennedy and Connolly were hit by the same bullet from the same gun. One bullet goes through Kennedy into Connolly and is found intact, flight of the bullet, back neck, through neck downward into Connolly’s chest and then into his hand and leg indicating downward travel. But the head shot fired from the same window same gun two seconds later exits out the top of Kennedy’s head? and is never found. A wound like that is usually caused by a fragmenting round meant to fragment on contact. But that would mean two different rounds were fired. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/154 "2013-11-08T03:43:24Z")
> [@stoplight](#): > > But the head shot fired from the same window same gun two seconds later exits out the top of Kennedy’s head? Of course it does. Look at the Zapruder film; after the first shot, JFK leans forward. The third shot enters the back of his head, and exits the top. Perfectly consistent with a shot from the sixth-floor window in the Book Depository. ---
**Author:** ![stoplight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@stoplight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stoplight)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/155 "2013-11-08T04:12:32Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Of course it does. Look at the Zapruder film; after the first shot, JFK leans forward. The third shot enters the back of his head, and exits the top. Perfectly consistent with a shot from the sixth-floor window in the Book Depository. two entrance and exit wounds so you are saying a shot missed? The entry wound to the head was low down on the back of President Kennedy’s skull. There was also a large wound, the location of which was variously described as toward the top, right and rear of the skull. All of these locations of the supposed exit wound are higher than the entry wound, and are incompatible with a shot coming from above and behind at an angle of about 10°–15° to the horizontal, given the inclination of Kennedy’s head at the moment of the fatal shot or shots. Based on the exit wounds two different types of bullets were used and because each entrance wound was a different size indicates a different caliber was employed. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/156 "2013-11-08T04:17:57Z")
The bullet that struck his skull disintegrated, creating enormous pressure that caused his skull to explode. ---
**Author:** ![Capt\_Kirk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@Capt\_Kirk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capt_Kirk)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/157 "2013-11-08T04:28:19Z")
Dear Og, not again. Didn’t we do this two weeks ago? **Stoplight** , really it was LHO, from TSBD sixth floor window, three shots including a miss. That is all. **Capt Kirk** ---
**Author:** ![Trinopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/2bfe46/32.png) [@Trinopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trinopus)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/158 "2013-11-08T05:26:00Z")
> [@stoplight](#): > > . . . same angle downward . . . The car had moved forward some distance, so the angle was less steep. ---
**Author:** ![stoplight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@stoplight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stoplight)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/159 "2013-11-08T06:09:14Z")
> [@Amateur\_Barbarian](#): > > The bullet that struck his skull disintegrated, creating enormous pressure that caused his skull to explode. as it was designed to do, while the one entering his neck was designed to remain intact…weird… ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [November 8, 2013, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942/160 "2013-11-08T06:21:36Z")
> [@stoplight](#): > > as it was designed to do, while the one entering his neck was designed to remain intact…weird… Are you being deliberately obtuse? A bullet striking the heavy bones of the skull is quite different from one going into the soft tissue of the neck – that should be quite obvious. * * * Also, Project Gutenberg, in recognition of the 50th Anniversary of JFK’s assassination, has posted the first 12 volumes (out of 26) of the Warren Commission Report online – see [Volume 1 here](http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/44001). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-assassination/649942.md?page=9)