# JFK fatal head shot **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [October 24, 2013, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-fatal-head-shot/672117 "2013-10-24T15:13:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2013, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-fatal-head-shot/672117/121 "2013-10-29T23:25:40Z")
Oh, I’ll take your word for all of that. I was just trying to put together what I recall of the reasons for taking that route. ---
**Author:** ![CurtC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ce73a5/32.png) [@CurtC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CurtC)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-fatal-head-shot/672117/122 "2013-10-30T03:00:26Z")
I think today there is a concrete barrier separating Elm and Main where they come together, but I believe in 1963 it was just a curb between them. ETA: I just looked on Google Street View and it’s still just a curb. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-fatal-head-shot/672117/123 "2013-10-30T19:27:21Z")
> [@Human\_Action](#): > > I’d put him where my patsy supposedly was: the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository. I know I have posted this before, but if you visit the [6th Floor Museum](http://www.jfk.org/), you can’t get into the sniper’s nest proper (it’s closed off with plexiglass), but you can look out the window that is two to the right of Oswald’s window and see almost exactly the same view that he did. Look at the [picture on this page](http://www.jfk.org/go/exhibits) and you will see what I mean. I used to think there was an outside chance of a second shooter until I stood and looked out that window. At that moment, all doubt vanished. As I have said before, my grandmother could have made that shot. From a sniper’s perspective, it just doesn’t get any better than that. Granted, the trees have grown just a little since then, but looking down on the street, you see Xs painted on the concrete at the points of impact. They are a perfect straight line shot. There is a [webcam in the sniper’s nest](http://www.earthcam.com/usa/texas/dallas/dealeyplaza/). Watch when it gets onto Elm Street. You’ll see the same thing he did. ---
**Author:** ![Kokopilau](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Kokopilau](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kokopilau)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2013, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-fatal-head-shot/672117/124 "2013-10-30T22:11:00Z")
> [@Avulsed Brainstem](#): > > I’ll concede the point. I thought there was discussion of the various routes and the turn onto Houston and then Elm was added late in the plan to bring the motorcade past more people, but I can’t lay a finger on the passage. That’s one of the [false claims](http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/route.htm) made by Garrison in his book, though it appears he swiped it from someone else. Here’s the tiny map image usually reproduced by conspiracymongers to prove that the “original route” did not include the turn onto Elm: [http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dmnmap2.gif](http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dmnmap2.gif) Here’s how that map appeared on the front page of the _Dallas Morning News,_ fron November 22, 1963, showing how small the map was in relation to the newspaper page: [http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dmntot.gif](http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dmntot.gif) Here’s the map that the _Dallas Times-Herald_ published the evening of the day before, November 21, 1963: [http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dth.jpg](http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dth.jpg) Here’s a closeup of that map, clearly showing the turn onto Houston and Elm: [http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dthdetl.jpg](http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dthdetl.jpg) Here’s the written description of the motorcade route, published by the _Dallas Morning News_ two days before that, on November 19, 1963, explicitly mentioning the turn onto Houston and Elm: [http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dmntue.gif](http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dmntue.gif) Here’s the written description from the _Dallas Times-Herald_ from that same day, mentioning that same turn: [http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dthtue.gif](http://i479.photobucket.com/albums/rr157/antpogo/jfk/dthtue.gif) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-fatal-head-shot/672117.md?page=6)