# jfk JUNIOR Death Controversy **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [April 16, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591 "2017-04-16T23:57:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![saturncomet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@saturncomet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saturncomet)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/1 "2017-04-16T23:57:32Z")
Video explains all. [http://youtu.be/SAe2PC3Gv\_Y](http://youtu.be/SAe2PC3Gv_Y) ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/2 "2017-04-16T23:59:08Z")
Aw shit! I was hoping your post might explain some of it. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/3 "2017-04-16T23:59:52Z")
No, the video doesn’t explain shit. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/4 "2017-04-17T00:02:15Z")
> [@saturncomet](#): > > Video explains all. > [http://youtu.be/SAe2PC3Gv\_Y](http://youtu.be/SAe2PC3Gv_Y) Why don’t you explain the video in your own words for those of us who can’t be arsed to sit through, or are otherwise unable to watch a video? ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/5 "2017-04-17T00:12:14Z")
The controversy as I recall off the top of my head is that he took off in a private plane, at night, in a storm, in weather that professional pilots refused to fly in, weather that required extra equipment, training and certification (none of which he had), so that he could fly over the ocean (at night in a storm) to land on an island where the airport was going to be closed by the time he got there and people were shocked, SHOCKED, I tell you, to find that he didn’t make it. That man murdered two women and destroyed a perfectly good plane because he was JFK JUNIOR GODDAMIT. Asshole. Oh, and, he & I were born on the same day, but there’s no controversy there. ---
**Author:** ![saturncomet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@saturncomet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saturncomet)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/6 "2017-04-17T00:15:31Z")
interesting how some have opinions in a few minutes but the vid is 1 hour long. I provided to much text yesterday and people complained about all the reading so if you want more than this smattering- PM me. Weather was actually fine bomb was planted on plane searchers were purposely lead to wrong area until plane could be found by others planes pingers did signal for help and location when plane hit water. HRC needed to be senator and you know who was about to announce his candidacy. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/7 "2017-04-17T00:19:50Z")
> [@saturncomet](#): > > interesting how some have opinions in a few minutes but the vid is 1 hour long. > I provided to much text yesterday and people complained about all the reading so if you want more than this smattering- PM me. > > Weather was actually fine > bomb was planted on plane > searchers were purposely lead to wrong area until plane could be found by others > planes pingers did signal for help and location when plane hit water. > > HRC needed to be senator and you know who was about to announce > his candidacy. You provided someone else’s words. Use your own. People here are not going to sit through an hour video without some sort of reason why. Use your own words and provide a summary. Explain why you believe it. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/8 "2017-04-17T00:22:43Z")
> [@saturncomet](#): > > interesting how some have opinions in a few minutes but the vid is 1 hour long. > I provided to much text yesterday and people complained about all the reading so if you want more than this smattering- PM me. > > Weather was actually fine > bomb was planted on plane > searchers were purposely lead to wrong area until plane could be found by others > planes pingers did signal for help and location when plane hit water. > > HRC needed to be senator and you know who was about to announce > his candidacy. Really? You wanted me to waste an hour of my life by watching what you can summarize in 5 sentences? Why didn’t you put that in your OP? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/9 "2017-04-17T00:29:08Z")
> [@saturncomet](#): > > interesting how some have opinions in a few minutes but the vid is 1 hour long. A few minutes? The crash occurred in 1999. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/10 "2017-04-17T00:34:58Z")
This shit again? [Oswald acted alone.](http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=131458&page=1) ---
**Author:** ![jshore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b5e925/32.png) [@jshore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jshore)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/11 "2017-04-17T00:40:19Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > You provided someone else’s words. Use your own. > People here are not going to sit through an hour video without some sort of reason why. > Use your own words and provide a summary. > Explain why you believe it. Better yet, look up “conspiracy theory” in the dictionary and explain why this isn’t one. Also, clearly explain to us why other less conspiratorial conclusions, like the one reached by investigators, can be definitively ruled out. And, by the way, whether the weather was fine or bad, non-commercial aviation is f-cking dangerous. I have heard that some insurance companies won’t insure CEOs when they fly in their own planes. This point confused me for a while because commercial aviation is so safe; however, it is important to recognize the huge cavernous difference in safety between the two. ---
**Author:** ![saturncomet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecd19e/32.png) [@saturncomet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saturncomet)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/12 "2017-04-17T00:40:52Z")
In addition to the 5 sentences above it was a plot to kill jfk jr as he was just about to announce his candidacy for senator. I listened to the vid 8 months ago. All words are mine in all posts here. Coast guard/searchers deliberately delayed finding plane as I do not believe they were that incompetent as video shows. I will NOT BE doing a big copy paste job here. Its not permitted in this forum (the peoples court LOL- TSD) If interested listen to the video. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/13 "2017-04-17T00:41:17Z")
Debate questionable. Content negligible. Closed. Don’t do it again. ---
**Author:** ![Bone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bone/32/407_2.png) [@Bone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bone)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jfk-junior-death-controversy/784591/14 "2017-04-17T00:42:28Z")
> [@saturncomet](#): > > Video explains all. > [http://youtu.be/SAe2PC3Gv\_Y](http://youtu.be/SAe2PC3Gv_Y) Is there any evidence you’d like to present? Typically content free posts with links to videos sans explanation are unconvincing as much as they go unwatched.