# Jian Ghomeshi, host of Q on CBC, fired.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 27, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645 "2014-10-27T13:31:30Z")
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### Author: ![Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ce7236/32.png) [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mona_Lisa_Simpson)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/181 "2014-11-05T17:24:12Z")

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I am curious. For those in the USA if such a scandal hit an American broadcaster/interviewer would the fact that he was born overseas to Iranian parents be brought to the foreground? I am not saying it should (my goodness, my sister in law was raised as half Persian.) I keep thinking that the spin in the USA would be that he is a “creepy foreigner” I am glad we acknowledge him as our own Canadian creep, and keep ethnicities out of the dialogue. (For whatever that’s worth.)

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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/182 "2014-11-05T17:31:06Z")

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> [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](#):
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> I am curious. For those in the USA if such a scandal hit an American broadcaster/interviewer would the fact that he was born overseas to Iranian parents be brought to the foreground? I am not saying it should (my goodness, my sister in law was raised as half Persian.) I keep thinking that the spin in the USA would be that he is a “creepy foreigner” I am glad we acknowledge him as our own Canadian creep, and keep ethnicities out of the dialogue. (For whatever that’s worth.)

If “Terry Gross-meshi” of NPR’s “Fresh Air Q” 😉 was busted for something like this, it would be massive, massive tabloid fodder. Would his/her “foreign-ness” be spotlighted?

Dude (said in a non-gender way) EVERY angle would be spotlighted!!!

This would be \*especially \*yucky because of the political football that NPR is between Liberals and Conservatives. You can bet that Republicans - who point to NPR as an agent for the Liberal Agenda and proof that the Center for Public Broadcasting should be unfunded - would milk a scandal like that for all it was worth. I don’t say that in an anti-Republican way; just acknowledging the reality of the scenario.

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/183 "2014-11-05T17:37:46Z")

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> [@Mona\_Lisa\_Simpson](#):
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> I am curious. For those in the USA if such a scandal hit an American broadcaster/interviewer would the fact that he was born overseas to Iranian parents be brought to the foreground? I am not saying it should (my goodness, my sister in law was raised as half Persian.) I keep thinking that the spin in the USA would be that he is a “creepy foreigner” I am glad we acknowledge him as our own Canadian creep, and keep ethnicities out of the dialogue. (For whatever that’s worth.)

I have seen derogatory comments about immigrants and/or Muslims in user comments, but not in any mainstream articles. There will always be a few stupid people/trolls who leave comments like that.

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### Author: ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/184 "2014-11-05T18:29:21Z")

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The [lawyer he has hired](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/11/05/jian_ghomeshi_hires_lawyer_who_defended_exattorney_general_michael_bryant.html#) is apparently famous in Toronto (her name is Marie Henein) and her manner is described a female Hannibal Lecter.

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### Author: ![74westy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/74westy/32/3950_2.png) [@74westy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/74westy)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/185 "2014-11-05T18:35:05Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Maybe you could organize some sort of symbolic book / CD / whatever burning. For every item tossed on the fire, money raised for the event could go to benefit a women’s shelter.

Or you could just donate to a women’s shelter and leave the book burning to the Nazis.

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### Author: ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/186 "2014-11-05T19:20:55Z")

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> [@74westy](#):
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> Or you could just donate to a women’s shelter and leave the book burning to the Nazis.

Wow. It took longer than I thought for this thread to be Godwinized. I’m seriously disappointed. ☹

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/187 "2014-11-05T20:11:03Z")

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[CBC asks court to dismiss Ghomeshi lawsuit](http://www.citynews.ca/2014/11/05/cbc-asks-court-to-dismiss-ghomeshi-lawsuit/)

Nothing surprising, I suppose.

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### Author: ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
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> [@74westy](#):
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> Or you could just donate to a women’s shelter and leave the book burning to the Nazis.

Now that was just nasty and amazingly fucking ignorant or maybe you can explain to us how someone burning their own personal property is in any way like something perpetrated by Nazis.

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/189 "2014-11-05T20:26:07Z")

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Trying to get back on topic…

Here’s Elvira Kurt’s [message on Facebook](https://www.facebook.com/elvira.kurt/posts/10154818437280424). She has (used to have?) a regular segment on Q.

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### Author: ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/190 "2014-11-05T20:27:59Z")

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So what are they currently doing about the show? Are they airing repeats, new shows with a guest host, or another program?  
How often did the show air?

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/191 "2014-11-05T20:30:56Z")

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They’re using guest hosts for now. I think, until they find a new one or something.  
The show is only one hour for the next few days, but will go back to its hour-and-a-half length soon.  
Some segments are repeated, some new.  
I don’t think they’ll ever repeat a show that had Jian on it.

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### Author: ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/192 "2014-11-05T20:40:10Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> [CBC asks court to dismiss Ghomeshi lawsuit](http://www.citynews.ca/2014/11/05/cbc-asks-court-to-dismiss-ghomeshi-lawsuit/)
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> Nothing surprising, I suppose.

Quoth a litigation partner I work with, in his analysis of his statement of claim last week: “I will turn in my licence to practice law if the CBC does not bring a motion to dismiss”. Before describing the reasons such a motion would likely succeed.

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### Author: ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/193 "2014-11-05T20:40:13Z")

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Well, the remarks about NPR all ring true for the CBC, I’m afraid. Our right leaning, in power, party has long been pushing for defunding the broadcaster. They’ve been slashing budgets since they came to power.

And they’ll definitely make hay with this development, I’m certain. Our tax dollars will pay for all of the extra legal fees, (and they will likely stretch to millions) plus any large payouts that are required. It sounds like they could be sued by a lot of people for toxic workplace.

But I seriously doubt his Iranian heritage will be emphasized. In part because his family emigrated from England, and because well, it’s not very Canadian. Seems titch hateful, and slightly unbecoming, but mostly has no bearing on his acts.Too many immigrants here for that to fly, I expect.

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/194 "2014-11-05T20:42:28Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> Now that was just nasty and amazingly fucking ignorant or maybe you can explain to us how someone burning their own personal property is in any way like something perpetrated by Nazis.

How about you name one book burning that wasn’t held by assholes?

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### Author: ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/195 "2014-11-05T20:51:19Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> How about you name one book burning that wasn’t held by assholes?

I can’t. What does that have to do with Nazis?

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#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/196 "2014-11-05T20:55:10Z")

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Dp

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#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/197 "2014-11-05T20:59:15Z")

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> [@hajario](#):
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> I can’t. What does that have to do with Nazis?

What doesn’t it have to do with Nazis?

Eta: someone saying “leave the bookburning to the Nazis” doesn’t need someone else running in shrieking ZOMG the Nazis were horrible! How dare you bring them up!

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/198 "2014-11-05T21:01:31Z")

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Guys, I’m not actually going to burn any books, so I suggest maybe we drop the whole subject of book-burning and Nazis and get back to the thread subject.

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### Author: ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/199 "2014-11-05T21:02:26Z")

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Sigh. Let’s kill this hijack - the original comment was to ‘leave book-burning to the Nazis’. Meaning, book-burning out of hatred of the authour is an inherently bad thing to do, beneath people - the sort of tactic that sould be _left_ to people like Nazis. Not that anyone who does it _is_, in fact, a Nazi.

There is room to debate as to whether the premise is correct (that is, whether book-burning is or is not a bad thing inherently), but it isn’t an insult, and it isn’t stating that anyone is a Nazi.

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Regretfully, I must disagree with you, **malthus**. It seemed a pretty clear suggestion that **faithfool** was Nazi-esque for suggesting a book-burning.

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