# Jian Ghomeshi, host of Q on CBC, fired.

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [October 27, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645 "2014-10-27T13:31:30Z")
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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/201 "2014-11-05T22:04:55Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> Well, the remarks about NPR all ring true for the CBC, I’m afraid. Our right leaning, in power, party has long been pushing for defunding the broadcaster. They’ve been slashing budgets since they came to power.
> 
> And they’ll definitely make hay with this development, I’m certain. Our tax dollars will pay for all of the extra legal fees, (and they will likely stretch to millions) plus any large payouts that are required. It sounds like they could be sued by a lot of people for toxic workplace.
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> But I seriously doubt his Iranian heritage will be emphasized. In part because his family emigrated from England, and because well, it’s not very Canadian. Seems titch hateful, and slightly unbecoming, but mostly has no bearing on his acts.Too many immigrants here for that to fly, I expect.

::ahem::

Back to this topic - ah, sorry. I hadn’t realized there were similarities and yeah, this is meat for any opponents, innit? I don’t think ethnicity would be a primary factor here, either. Not because we’re even-keeled like you are portraying Canadian media - it just doesn’t seem to have an angle at this point. This seemingly deluded criminal has enough angles to his story as it is.

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### Author: ![Malthus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/85f322/32.png) [@Malthus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malthus)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/202 "2014-11-05T22:06:14Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> ::ahem::
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> Back to this topic - ah, sorry. I hadn’t realized there were similarities and yeah, this is meat for any opponents, innit? I don’t think ethnicity would be a primary factor here, either. Not because we’re even-keeled like you are portraying Canadian media - it just doesn’t seem to have an angle at this point. This seemingly deluded criminal has enough angles to his story as it is.

Big Ears Teddy cares nothing for ethnicity.

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### Author: ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/203 "2014-11-05T22:17:05Z")

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I’ll say one last thing about the idiotic hijack that **74westy** started and then I’ll desist… I was trying to think of something good to come out of a horrific situation, one in which [most] people probably wouldn’t ever want to read an abuser of women again. As thus, I totally couldn’t care less about the stupidity of believing “That all books are sacred OMGZ!!1!” is a valid approach in light of this guy’s antics. So, he can trivialize the heinous acts of the Nazis with my suggestion. On here, it’s to expected. If the person I was offering it to ain’t interested, that’s all I need to know. Now, I’ll let that guy tilt at windmills and let everyone else go back to discussing that creeper Jian. Sorry for my part in this. It wasn’t my intention.

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/204 "2014-11-05T22:22:58Z")

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Yeah who knew calling for a book burning would be controversial?

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### Author: ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/205 "2014-11-05T22:28:04Z")

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Yeah, still don’t care _in context_. Nice try though on keeping the hijack alive!

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/206 "2014-11-05T22:34:38Z")

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Montreal blogger Steve Faguy has written a good blog entry, [Some things to consider before your next Jian Ghomeshi think piece](http://blog.fagstein.com/2014/10/29/jian-ghomeshi-scandal/), bringing up many important points about the nature of the case, and other subjects.  
(Article was written last week, I think, but updated more recently as new information has come to light.)

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/207 "2014-11-05T23:10:26Z")

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> [@faithfool](#):
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> Yeah, still don’t care _in context_. Nice try though on keeping the hijack alive!

Pffft. You made an obnoxious suggestion and i no more continued the hijack than you.

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/208 "2014-11-05T23:13:21Z")

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I have now lost count of how many times I and other people have tried to stop the hijack and steer the thread back on course. I don’t want to say anything nasty about other posters, so I won’t. I’m not a mod, but can I just ask us to please stay on topic? Can we just drop whatever the hijack was about, and stop insulting each other?  
(I hope I’m not “junior modding.” I just want to get back on topic.)

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/209 "2014-11-05T23:15:00Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> ::ahem::
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> Back to this topic - ah, sorry. I hadn’t realized there were similarities and yeah, this is meat for any opponents, innit? I don’t think ethnicity would be a primary factor here, either. Not because we’re even-keeled like you are portraying Canadian media - it just doesn’t seem to have an angle at this point. This seemingly deluded criminal has enough angles to his story as it is.

Out of curiosity, has American media been covering this story much? Anyone know?

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### Author: ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/210 "2014-11-05T23:32:53Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Out of curiosity, has American media been covering this story much? Anyone know?

It looks like there’s almost nothing in American online media; CNN published one article early on that was mainly about Ghomeshi’s claims that this was all consensual BDSM, but there doesn’t seem to have been anything since. It looks like the same thing happened with the New York Times – just one early article about his firing. Except for an opinion piece in Slate, every reference on the first page of Google News listings is from Canadian media.

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### Author: ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/211 "2014-11-05T23:41:03Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> I have now lost count of how many times I and other people have tried to stop the hijack and steer the thread back on course. I don’t want to say anything nasty about other posters, so I won’t. I’m not a mod, but can I just ask us to please stay on topic? Can we just drop whatever the hijack was about, and stop insulting each other?  
> (I hope I’m not “junior modding.” I just want to get back on topic.)

For fucks sake. No one who says " I’m stopping the hijack by getting the last word in" is even remotely trying to stop the hijack.

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### Author: ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/212 "2014-11-05T23:47:09Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Out of curiosity, has American media been covering this story much? Anyone know?

The only reason I know about it is from here, and I listen on and off to Q. (I was in the car yesterday when an announcement for it came on, but of course nothing was mentioned and I’m sure if I heard the program, I would’ve just assumed he’s on vacation.) I haven’t seen any US media on it.

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### Author: ![EmilyG](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/emilyg/32/364_2.png) [@EmilyG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EmilyG)
#### Post date: [November 5, 2014, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/213 "2014-11-05T23:53:22Z")

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Yeah, I guess he’s not as well-known in the US as he is in Canada. I don’t know how many people in Canada had heard of him either, actually. Though perhaps he’s more famous now?

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### Author: ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/214 "2014-11-06T00:03:50Z")

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> [@SpoilerVirgin](#):
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> It looks like there’s almost nothing in American online media; CNN published one article early on that was mainly about Ghomeshi’s claims that this was all consensual BDSM, but there doesn’t seem to have been anything since. It looks like the same thing happened with the New York Times – just one early article about his firing. Except for an opinion piece in Slate, every reference on the first page of Google News listings is from Canadian media.

[Slate.com](http://Slate.com) has published a few articles about it.

> **[Search | Slate](https://slate.com/search)**
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> All stories from Slate Magazine.

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### Author: ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/215 "2014-11-06T00:03:59Z")

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I was kind of a fan of Moxy Fruvous back in the day, but couldn’t have named any of the members, and if it weren’t for this issue, I wouldn’t be able to pick Ghomeshi out of a lineup, nowadays.

So, yeah, he’s a lot better known than he used to be. Too bad he got better known by being a scumbag.

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### Author: ![joyfool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/df788c/32.png) [@joyfool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joyfool)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/216 "2014-11-06T00:18:58Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Out of curiosity, has American media been covering this story much? Anyone know?

I’ve seen it more on what’s labeled as feminist type sites than anything else. I just hope he gets what’s coming to him.

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### Author: ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)
#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/217 "2014-11-06T00:22:50Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> The [lawyer he has hired](http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2014/11/05/jian_ghomeshi_hires_lawyer_who_defended_exattorney_general_michael_bryant.html#) is apparently famous in Toronto (her name is Marie Henein) and her manner is described a female Hannibal Lecter.

This excerpt from the article had me laughing:

> [@](#):
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> Last week at a gala dinner honouring past presidents of the Criminal Lawyers Association, Henein, CLA treasurer and the evening’s emcee, joked about Ghomeshi.
> 
> “As criminal lawyers we represent people who have committed heinous acts. Acts of violence. Acts of depravity. Acts of cruelty. Or as Jian Ghomeshi likes to call it, foreplay,” she said to the crowd of about 450 lawyers, including judges of both the provincial and superior court where his case might be heard if charges are laid.
> 
> She also joked that she and Eddie Greenspan, famed Canadian criminal lawyer and the evening’s keynote speaker, have worked together for many years. “Some criminal. Some regulatory. Some light BDSM.” Both jokes drew huge laughs from the crowd at the Ritz Carlton."

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#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/218 "2014-11-06T00:27:00Z")

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> [@EmilyG](#):
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> Out of curiosity, has American media been covering this story much? Anyone know?

Only the Neo-Nazi rags cover it. [ducks and runs](Hey, I burn outdated books and outdated materials, but I never realized that I was a Nazi before.)[/ducks and runs]

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#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/219 "2014-11-06T00:34:52Z")

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Article from Slate: [I Knew About Jian Ghomeshi](http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2014/11/jian_ghomeshi_allegations_i_wasn_t_surprised_to_hear_them_does_that_make.html).

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#### Post date: [November 6, 2014, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jian-ghomeshi-host-of-q-on-cbc-fired/702645/220 "2014-11-06T00:40:08Z")

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It seems to me that a lot of the Canadian coverage is coming from the Toronto Star. Or maybe it’s just that they’ve been running a lot of articles on him. Or confirmation bias? Or because, if I remember correctly, they’re the ones who had that first big article with the accusations, that sort of got this story started.

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