# Jill Stein campaign thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [June 11, 2016, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088 "2016-06-11T07:12:38Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/121 "2016-08-22T00:32:19Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Update time: Her running mate thinks [Barack Obama is an Uncle Tom](http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/8/18/1561474/-Is-President-Obama-an-Uncle-Tom-Green-Party-veep-nominee-Ajamu-Baraka-just-called-him-one).

It’s not his fault for using older terminology. It’s clearly the “Kiev Zio-Nazi government” that has affected US social norms with respect to language. 😛

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [August 22, 2016, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/122 "2016-08-22T03:21:52Z")

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Uncle Tom has been used on black conservatives for awhile now. Since to the Green Party, Obama is a conservative, they get points for consistency.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 2, 2016, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/123 "2016-09-02T17:54:28Z")

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Jill Stein’s campaign flies to the wrong city. Not surprising from a party that holds their ‘convention’ at a college campus and failed to notice that the only restaurant nearby was a McDonald’s, which pleased the self-righteous vegans immensely .

> **[Jill Stein delays rally after landing in wrong Ohio city](https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/294295-jill-stein-delays-rally-after-landing-in-wrong-ohio-city/)**
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> The Green Party candidate flew to Cincinnati instead of Columbus. 

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**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/124 "2016-09-07T18:46:15Z")

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[Jill Stein faces federal charges for vandalizing construction equipment at the Dakota Access Pipeline construction site.](http://bipartisanreport.com/2016/09/06/breaking-2016-presidential-candidate-floored-by-federal-criminal-charges-details/)

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/125 "2016-09-07T20:02:59Z")

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Lock her up!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/126 "2016-09-07T20:32:13Z")

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So all the people who can’t stand “Crooked Hillary” now have to choose from:

1. A man who bribed the Florida Attorney General
2. A woman who vandalizes property
3. [A man who now has a fake VP as his running mate](http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/evan-mcmullin-running-mate-227803). (Some of us)
4. [A man who’s party wants to destroy the Federal Government](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson)
5. Hillary Clinton, the most criminally investigated and smeared candidate in history… with not a shred of evidence to support these investigations and smears.

Jesus. Fucking. Wept.

How people aren’t making the logical and _moral_ decision is beyond me. Well… it’s not. But it’s apparently beyond them to even see the issue.

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/127 "2016-09-07T21:58:34Z")

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[A warrant has been issued for Jill Stein](http://www.cbsnews.com/news/warrant-out-for-green-party-candidate-jill-steins-arrest-in-north-dakota/).

As of now, I am declaring her a Fugitive from the Law!

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 10:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/128 "2016-09-07T22:00:48Z")

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…

And isn’t it insane that the Green Party candidate getting arrested likely won’t make the top-10 of crazy things to happen this election?

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**Author:** ![adaher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@adaher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/adaher)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/129 "2016-09-07T22:28:27Z")

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A Green Party candidate not getting arrested or having a history of arrests would be a big surprise. Isn’t that what lefties do when they are bored, get arrested or chain themselves to something?

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 7, 2016, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/130 "2016-09-07T22:41:01Z")

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Possibly true, but getting arrested **during** the campaign seems a rather desperate move for votes.

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**Author:** ![DinoR](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dinor/32/2821_2.png) [@DinoR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DinoR)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/131 "2016-09-08T00:25:26Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> Possibly true, but getting arrested **during** the campaign seems a rather desperate move for votes.

You saw the part where she got arrested 4 years ago too? That one was for trying to force her way into a debate. Arrest isn’t a new campaign tactic for her. Desperate times call for desperate measures. After all nobody is paying attention to her position that [wifi is harming our our children.](http://www.sciencealert.com/us-presidential-candidate-jill-stein-thinks-wi-fi-is-a-threat-to-children-s-health)

Think of the children!😃

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/132 "2016-09-08T01:05:49Z")

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That’s right, I forgot she has been down this path before.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [September 8, 2016, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/133 "2016-09-08T02:26:33Z")

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> [@adaher](#):
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> A Green Party candidate not getting arrested or having a history of arrests would be a big surprise. Isn’t that what lefties do when they are bored, get arrested or chain themselves to something?

Still, better than armed takeovers of government buildings.

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2016, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/134 "2016-09-10T00:38:06Z")

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Good God, this crazy woman is now a 9/11 truther.

> **[Jill Stein calls for new 9/11 investigation](https://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/295266-stein-calls-for-new-9-11-investigation/)**
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> The Green Party candidate said the 9/11 Commission report contains “omissions and distortions.”

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**Author:** ![Hector\_St\_Clare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b5ac83/32.png) [@Hector\_St\_Clare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hector_St_Clare)\
**Post date:** [September 12, 2016, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/135 "2016-09-12T12:11:12Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Jill Stein and Donald Trump stand shoulder to shoulder with Vladimir Putin. In a 2015? trip to Moscow, Jill Stein [shot a video](http://americablog.com/2016/08/jill-stein-moscow-criticized-us-human-rights-said-nothing-russian-human-rights.html): [INDENT][INDENT]From Moscow, Stein noted that we “need to rein in US exceptionalism, and totally reform and revise our foreign policy so that it is based on international law, human rights and diplomacy.” Making those comments from Moscow, at this time, is rather unconventional, [unless you work for Donald Trump](http://americablog.com/2016/07/trump-foreign-policy-adviser-goes-moscow-says-us-isnt-democratic-praises-russia.html).
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> With Red Square as her backdrop, Stein suggested that we need to “replace a US policy of domination with a way forward based on respect, collaboration, international law and human rights.”
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> She added, “we’ve seen that vision really resonate here.” [/INDENT][/INDENT] Wow. Looks like Trump isn’t the only authoritarian wannabe that admires Putin. Here’s Jill Stein [eating dinner](https://twitter.com/zatchry/status/762055852991713280) with Vladamir Putin and Michael Flynn of the Trump campaign. As far as I can tell, she had no criticism for Russian government policy during that junket, notwithstanding their invasion of Ukraine, LGBT policy and repression of the press.
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> [https://freedomhouse.org/country/russia](https://freedomhouse.org/country/russia)
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> [https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2016/russia](https://freedomhouse.org/report/freedom-press/2016/russia)
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> [http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx\_ttnews[tt\_news]=45230tx\_ttnews[backPid]%3D228#.V6bwOjXz\_-U](http://www.jamestown.org/single/?tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=45230tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D%3D228#.V6bwOjXz_-U)
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> [https://www.crisisgroup.org/europe-central-asia/eastern-europe/ukraine/ukraine-line](https://www.crisisgroup.org/europe-central-asia/eastern-europe/ukraine/ukraine-line)

The Russian ‘invasion’ of Ukraine was an intervention in a civil war (and an intervention on the better side, at that). As for the Russian repression of the press, I don’t see why that’s any of America’s business. The experiment with liberalism had horrific results for Russia in the 1990s, so to the extent that liberal journalists are the ones being repressed, good for Russia.

In any case, I generally agree with Jill Stein’s pro-Russian stance, so as much as I dislike her ideas about vaccines and GMOs, I’m leaning either towards her or towards Darrell Castle (who also shares a general approach of foreign policy isolationism). Stein would be better on economic policy, Castle would be better on social policy, but either one would be acceptable on foreign policy, the set of issues I care most about.

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**Author:** ![SlackerInc](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slackerinc/32/275_2.png) [@SlackerInc](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SlackerInc)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/136 "2016-10-08T04:08:10Z")

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I can’t stand Jill Stein, so [this](https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/05/young-people-would-really-like-to-vote-for-someone-not-named-clinton-or-trump/) was pretty hilarious:

> [@](#):
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> First the pollsters asked the expected question. In a four-way race between Clinton, Donald Trump, Libertarian Gary Johnson and Jill Stein of the Green Party, who would you prefer? Clinton was preferred by nine points, with Johnson getting 11 percent and Stein three.
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> But they only asked that question of half of the respondents. The other half got a variant, pitting Clinton and Trump against James Hedges and Monica Moorehead.
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> You, right now: Against … who?
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> Hedges is the Amish-bearded candidate at the top of the Prohibition Party ticket. Moorehead is the presidential candidate for the Workers World Party. Neither, it’s safe to say, is likely to fare very well.
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> Nonetheless, each did as well as Stein.

It also continues to demonstrate that many young voters are being ignorant and/or pissy in this election.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/137 "2016-10-08T15:40:20Z")

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It is beginning to look certain that Hillary will win. But if she does not get a majority of the popular vote, Mitch McConnell will use that as an excuse not to confirm court nominees over the next four years. America needs Hillary to win big. Not just by a 48 to 42 margin.

Votes for (Jill Stein and Gary Johnson) are useless protest votes that will help 'ol Mitch get his justification.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/138 "2016-10-08T16:22:50Z")

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It doesn’t look like McConnell is going to have that authority after New Year’s.

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**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/139 "2016-10-08T16:30:47Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> It is beginning to look certain that Hillary will win. But if she does not get a majority of the popular vote, Mitch McConnell will use that as an excuse not to confirm court nominees over the next four years. America needs Hillary to win big. Not just by a 48 to 42 margin.
> 
> Votes for (Jill Stein and Gary Johnson) are useless protest votes that will help 'ol Mitch get his justification.

The Senate will swing Democrat so that’s not an issue.

But if somehow the Republicans stay a majority would a Clinton plurality mean anything?

The president won with less than 50% of the popular vote in 1948, 1960, 1968, 1992, 1996, and 2000. It’s not any big deal. Clinton doing so wouldn’t rank in the top 100 excuses McConnell could dream up.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2016, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-campaign-thread/757088/140 "2016-10-08T17:24:54Z")

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> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#):
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> The Senate will swing Democrat so that’s not an issue.  
> .

Quite possibly, but by no means a sure thing.

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