# Jill Stein is a stupid cretin

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 8, 2017, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313 "2017-02-08T10:27:35Z")\
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**Author:** ![naita](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naita/32/5862_2.png) [@naita](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/naita)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 10:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/1 "2017-02-08T10:27:35Z")

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Posted this as a reply in another BBQ thread, but I think she deserves her own thread. Is this pure propaganda and pandering to her idiot followers, or did she turn off the TV when there wasn’t a surprise “Jill Stein is going to be president”-announcement and miss the part where the republicans kept control of the senate?  
[Jill Stein on twitter about the confirmation of DeVos that all democratic senators and two republicans voted against:](https://twitter.com/DrJillStein)

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> Why would we have a tie on such an egregious nominee? Because Democrats serve corporate interests.

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**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/2 "2017-02-08T13:37:45Z")

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If she’s not stupid, she’s certainly pandering to stupid people. If she wants support she needs to peel those people away from Democrats, so might as well attack the Democrats.

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/3 "2017-02-08T16:01:37Z")

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Another presidential candidate as clueless as Donald? How do these people keep rising to the top?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/4 "2017-02-08T16:06:12Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Another presidential candidate as clueless as Donald? How do these people keep rising to the top?

because shit floats?

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/5 "2017-02-08T16:34:31Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> because shit floats?

Only when they’re full of fat. I learned that on House. I presume hot air would work too however.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 4:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/6 "2017-02-08T16:38:19Z")

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Thanks, Obama!

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/7 "2017-02-08T16:49:25Z")

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> [@Snarky\_Kong](#):
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> If she’s not stupid, she’s certainly pandering to stupid people. If she wants support she needs to peel those people away from Democrats,

Heh.

What if she’s arguing that, if she didn’t feel that Democrats in general – and Hillary Clinton in particular – didn’t serve corporate interests, then The Great Jill Stein would have felt no need to run, and would’ve peeled no support away, and Hillary would’ve been elected, and a better Secretary of Education would’ve been picked?

Like the man said, it’s an idiotic point, but it is a point.

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**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/8 "2017-02-08T18:08:35Z")

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I apologize in advance.

> [@Kobal2](#):
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> > [@SteveG1](#):
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> > because shit floats?
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> Only when they’re full of fat. I learned that on House. I presume hot air would work too however.

Do these pants make my poop look fat?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/9 "2017-02-08T23:47:01Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Only when they’re full of fat. I learned that on House. I presume hot air would work too however.

Interesting.  
(Thomas Dolby voice) “SCIENCE!”

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/10 "2017-02-09T00:35:56Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Another presidential candidate as clueless as Donald? How do these people keep rising to the top?

The top of what? Stein has as much chance of becoming President as I do.

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**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/11 "2017-02-09T01:13:10Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> The top of what? Stein has as much chance of becoming President as I do.

The top of a major third party.

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/12 "2017-02-09T02:40:57Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> The top of a major third party.

There’s no such thing.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/13 "2017-02-09T02:48:09Z")

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It’s nice to see a Pitting of someone other than The Donald …

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/14 "2017-02-09T02:50:38Z")

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> [@Wesley\_Clark](#):
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> The top of a major third party.

What Yookeroo said. A “major third party” is an oxymoron in American politics. Third parties are for people who want to talk about politics without actually participating in politics.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/15 "2017-02-09T03:26:54Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> What Yookeroo said. A “major third party” is an oxymoron in American politics. Third parties are for people who want to talk about politics without actually participating in politics.

Nah. Third parties are for people who want to express ideological purity, at the cost of preventing a travesty. Stein, in persuading sufficient people to vote for her, changed the course of history. She’s definitely a major player, a more important Trump ally than Bannon himself.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/16 "2017-02-09T03:54:39Z")

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Jill Stein’s not stupid; her career is running for an office that she and everyone else knows she cannot possibly win. And yet she finds enough suckers to keep her ‘candidacy’ (and political organization) alive.

Who’s stupid again?

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/17 "2017-02-09T03:58:33Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Jill Stein’s not stupid; her career is running for an office that she and everyone else knows she cannot possibly win. And yet she finds enough suckers to keep her ‘candidacy’ (and political organization) alive.
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> Who’s stupid again?

The people giving her money?

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/18 "2017-02-09T13:50:38Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> What Yookeroo said. A “major third party” is an oxymoron in American politics. Third parties are for people who want to talk about politics without actually participating in politics.

This, and I say it as a Libertarian.

I checked after the election. If every single person who voted for the Green and Libertarian party’s candidate plus that write-in guy from Utah had voted for Clinton (an impossibility) she still would not have won.

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**Author:** ![CandidGamera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/candidgamera/32/2878_2.png) [@CandidGamera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CandidGamera)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/19 "2017-02-09T13:58:41Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> This, and I say it as a Libertarian.
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> I checked after the election. If every single person who voted for the Green and Libertarian party’s candidate plus that write-in guy from Utah had voted for Clinton (an impossibility) she still would not have won.

You are incorrect. The margins in PA, WI, and MI were less than the total number of votes taken by the Green Party.

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**Author:** ![watchwolf49](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9c0ed/32.png) [@watchwolf49](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/watchwolf49)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2017, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jill-stein-is-a-stupid-cretin/779313/20 "2017-02-09T14:45:00Z")

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Wait … isn’t the Democrats considered a major third party … or do they just act that way?

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