# Jim\_B's Note should be upgraded to a Warning at least **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [May 4, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959 "2022-05-04T18:31:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/1 "2022-05-04T18:31:39Z")
This is not really a big complaint against the Mods who did a great job by acting very quickly in shutting down a horribly offensive thread. I don’t think things went far enough though. We have a poster with a history creating the most offensive OP in quite some time. It should have been a Warning along with a Suspension. > [@Kudos To Elton John](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/kudos-to-elton-john/963951): > > I wasn’t sure where this should go on these boards. But I just wanted to say, kudos to Elton John. The guy is gay. Yet AFAIK he’s not HIV positive. You know, he wasn’t promiscuous or at least used protection, at a time, when few gay men did. I just think he should be given some credit for that. slightly_smiling_face ---
**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/2 "2022-05-04T18:35:16Z")
And it may be. I was uncomfortable making that decision as the newest MPSIMS mod without input from the others. It’s being discussed in the mod loop. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/3 "2022-05-04T18:39:41Z")
Thank you. And again, kudos for the quick action. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/4 "2022-05-04T19:00:25Z")
I’d give them the boot. No second chances. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/5 "2022-05-04T19:03:46Z")
FYI. There is his OP below that was locked just a few months ago. > [@Celebrities Who Act Gay But DEFINITELY Aren't?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-who-act-gay-but-definitely-arent/957253): > > Because I personally don’t think that there is such a thing as gay mannerisms. But that question would be for a different section of these boards slightly_smiling_face . My question is, name a celebrity who acts gay, but who clearly isn’t. I personally am thinking mostly of males. But you can include females. I would like to start with Michael Dorn, who played the Klingon Worf on Star Trek: the Next Generation. He did do a convincing Klingon. But I have noticed that out of makeup he does act… ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/6 "2022-05-04T19:49:49Z")
Funny, that is the thread I brought up in the Modloop before I got to read this thread. I am strongly advocating for an upgrade to warning. I think **JimB** is not learning or perhaps trolling the board. We also have this shitty thread from him: > [@Diethylstilbestrol and Lesbianism?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/diethylstilbestrol-and-lesbianism/955508): > > I have to tell you, I was originally going to just post this in IMHO or MPSIMS. But upon closer reflection, I realize it might spark a debate. So I’ll err on the side of caution, and post it here. The prenatal drug diethylstilbestrol may lead to Lesbianism in women. I first read about this, I should tell you, in the Merck Manual. But they don’t publish it anymore, in paper form at least. But if you want to read more, [here](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7031187/) is one of many online articles about it. But I just have to ask, if true… ---
**Author:** ![ParallelLines](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/parallellines/32/3575_2.png) [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/7 "2022-05-04T20:46:27Z")
Wow. Read the OP in question. The assumptions hidden behind the smiley face and congratulatory tone… yeah. This being ATMB, I won’t ascribe motives the way @What_Exit did, but I would agree, a warning is certainly merited. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/8 "2022-05-04T20:48:55Z")
> [@Aspenglow](#): > > I was uncomfortable making that decision as the newest MPSIMS mod without input from the others. I’ve heard this kind of thing from a couple of the newer mods now, and I just want to say I think it’s absolute bullshit. After, say, 1 month or so, you guys should all have the same ability to make these calls by yourselves. I can see needing some consensus on _banning_ long-term posters, but for _warnings_, your say-so should be good enough in the forums you mod. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/9 "2022-05-04T20:52:51Z")
She brought it to the modloop and was looking for additional guidance. I went digging as **JimB** has been pulling stuff like this for a long time. This incident is about to be upgraded to a warning and a topic ban will be following. I’m not sure if **Aspenglow** is doing this or if I will be doing it after I have dinner. But she did everything right in this case as she wasn’t as familiar with the poster as say I am. Before the night is out, additional action will be taking place. ---
**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/10 "2022-05-04T21:06:00Z")
Agreed, except apparently the second chances have already happened. That post was beyond the pale, and to those of us who lost family and friends to AIDS, painful to read. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/11 "2022-05-04T21:09:36Z")
Thank you to the mods for giving attention to this sort of thing, and being thoughtful about it as well. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/12 "2022-05-04T21:33:28Z")
Great job, Mods. ---
**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/13 "2022-05-04T22:29:47Z")
Agreed. Thanks for doing the right thing. ---
**Author:** ![ShadowFacts](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shadowfacts/32/2934_2.png) [@ShadowFacts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShadowFacts)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/14 "2022-05-04T22:41:07Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’ve heard this kind of thing from a couple of the newer mods now, and I just want to say I think it’s absolute bullshit. Yes, it’s hard to imagine why they might be a little hesitant and want to seek advice… ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/15 "2022-05-04T22:43:32Z")
> [@MrDibble](#): > > I’ve heard this kind of thing from a couple of the newer mods now, and I just want to say I think it’s absolute bullshit. After, say, 1 month or so, you guys should all have the same ability to make these calls by yourselves. I can see needing some consensus on _banning_ long-term posters, but for _warnings_ , your say-so should be good enough in the forums you mod. It took them like three hours. I think that’s reasonable. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2022, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/16 "2022-05-04T23:32:25Z")
Yeah, very reasonable. And honestly that post in the OP just had me going “Huh? What the fuck does he mean here?”. But those other posts **What\_Exit** bring up, makes it clear. This was the right way to handle it. And the topic ban is better than just a quickie warning. This took thought and consideration. Good work. ---
**Author:** ![Treppenwitz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treppenwitz/32/3445_2.png) [@Treppenwitz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Treppenwitz)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/17 "2022-05-05T01:05:52Z")
> [@DrDeth](#): > > Good work I would say great work. Measured and carefully thought out. Kudos to all the mods. j ---
**Author:** ![carnut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnut/32/3531_2.png) [@carnut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnut)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/18 "2022-05-05T01:14:33Z")
Yes, I just hovered over the heading and decided I didn’t want to get involved in that conversation. Thanks Mods! ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/19 "2022-05-05T01:19:21Z")
Okay, you are right, dude. _Great_ work. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2022, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959/20 "2022-05-05T04:52:31Z")
> [@ShadowFacts](#): > > Yes, it’s hard to imagine why they might be a little hesitant and want to seek advice… I didn’t mean it’s bullshit _by_ Aspenglow, I meant it’s bullshit _for_ Aspenglow to have to put up with their decisions having to be vetted. Like I said, that’s perfectly OK for bannings (and topic bannings, like this one), but an individual mod should be able to Warn on their own initiative, or else you have all the faff around threads being locked while the loop is consulted etc. That thread warranted a Warning just for itself, IMO, only the full topic ban should have needed to consult the loop. Yes, _this_ loop discussion went quickly. Lots of them _don’t_. Mods have lives. That’s more bureaucracy than is warranted for a Warning. And yes, props to the mods for the eventual Warning and topic ban. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-bs-note-should-be-upgraded-to-a-warning-at-least/963959.md?page=2)