# Jim Cornette's awe-inspiring rant against the right wing on YouTube

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 10, 2009, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306 "2009-06-10T05:48:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2009, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/61 "2009-06-12T13:31:14Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> He may be (a LOT) more intelligent than Clothahump, but he’s still doing what they all do, sticking his fingers in his ears, closing his eyes, scrunching up his face and going “LALALALA I CAN’T HEAR YOU! LOOK, SHINY!”

I wouldn’t say that.

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/62 "2009-06-13T03:48:12Z")

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Almost 11:00 central and views are at almost 7300.

When I opened this I thought, “Surely not _that_ Jim Cornette.” And I’ll be damned. I think one of my favorite points was that guys like O’Reilly don’t actually believe the shit they’re saying; they just are making a buck. God knows Limbaugh would probably rather be doing football (regarding which I just heard that he’s considering buying the St. Louis Rams) and O’Reilly would probably rather be a successful fiction writer. But people buy into the crap and then I have to hear them gurge it up at work.

My God, that was impressive. Made me think wistfully of ol’ Bill Hicks.

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**Author:** ![Hung\_Mung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@Hung\_Mung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hung_Mung)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/63 "2009-06-13T03:54:23Z")

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Oh, and as for Bricker’s remark: I won’t disagree that some people expressed the desire to see Bush fail. However, I think there were a lot more people who expected Bush would fail without wanting to actually see him do so. I imagine history would view him differently if he’d gotten his hands on Bin Laden.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/64 "2009-06-13T08:06:29Z")

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> [@Hung\_Mung](#):
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> Oh, and as for Bricker’s remark: I won’t disagree that some people expressed the desire to see Bush fail. However, I think there were a lot more people who expected Bush would fail without wanting to actually see him do so. I imagine history would view him differently if he’d gotten his hands on Bin Laden.

We can’t be sure how history will view him, anyway. If we leave Iraq in a mess and if the Taliban end up stronger in 10 years than they were when we invaded (which certainly appears to be a possibility) it’ll look a lot worse than not being able to catch a single guy hiding in one of the most remote parts of the planet.

It’s also possible that the Middle East makes a strong push for Democracy, starting with Iraq, and Bush is remembered as the guy who started it all.

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**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/65 "2009-06-13T19:42:20Z")

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> [@Enfant Terrible](#):
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> Me too. It was a total stunner.
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> What’s next, Kurt Angle showing up in PSAs telling Arlen Specter that he’d better vote to pass EFCA or it’s ankle-lock time?
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> Didja watch it yet? Huh, did ya, huh?

Listening to it now. It’s pretty solid.

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**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/66 "2009-06-13T20:17:19Z")

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It’s not often that one ever hears such a heart-felt rant (with extra swearing on top) as this. Good on you Jim Cornette, whoever you are.

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> The Republicans have driven us into a ditch, and are complaining about the cost of the tow truck!

That’s gold, whatever your politics.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/67 "2009-06-13T20:20:17Z")

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Der…dis guy iz da smartz cuz he uh…agrees with my thots dat I already had.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/68 "2009-06-13T21:33:02Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Der…dis guy iz da smartz cuz he uh…agrees with my thots dat I already had.

You know, there are many fine public services that can help you with your learning disability.

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**Author:** ![PeacePlease](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/71c47a/32.png) [@PeacePlease](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PeacePlease)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/69 "2009-06-13T22:13:38Z")

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That was spectacular. I agree with what he had to say. I’d love to have the guts to send that to a couple people in my life.

Lots of people should hear that rant. Pass it on.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/70 "2009-06-13T23:05:48Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> You know, there are many fine public services that can help you with your learning disability.

Well what other response is there when someone posts yet another dumbass ranting about pat party-line bullshit?

Great rant? The favorable side of mediocre at best.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/71 "2009-06-13T23:10:58Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Well what other response is there when someone posts yet another dumbass ranting about pat party-line bullshit?

“Another great show, Mr Hannity.”

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 13, 2009, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/72 "2009-06-13T23:27:41Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> “Another great show, Mr Hannity.”

Precisely. 😉

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**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/73 "2009-06-14T02:19:38Z")

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I haven’t the foggiest who Jim Cornette is. I do know, however, that I have not laughed that hard in a while. He was awesome.

I have to say, when he was talking about how smart Obama is, I remember the first time I saw Obama speak. I turned to my husband and said “Holy Shit! He is smarter than me!” Trust me, in politics, I don’t get that feeling very often. I think it unnerves people just how smart he is. And Jim was right on the money talking about if there was any valid dirt, it most certainly would have come up LONG before a black dude named Barack Hussein Obama got nominated/elected.

I wish more people spoke up the way Mr. Cornette did.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/74 "2009-06-14T02:54:45Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> Well what other response is there when someone posts yet another dumbass ranting about pat party-line bullshit?
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> Great rant? The favorable side of mediocre at best.

**Carol Stream** , is that you? Truth hurts, I realize, but don’t you at least recognize the fact that this wasn’t a political pundit ranting on a political show, like Limbaugh, Hannity and the others? This was a WRESTLING manager, ranting on a podcast about WRESTLING, meant to only be heard by the faithful wrestling followers. Maybe you don’t realize that because the YouTube video, uh, audio, cut out all the talk about wrestling. It was originally a half hour show.

So, here you have a wrestling manager, a _southern_ wrestling manager, that most of us have never heard of (though of course quite famous in the world of wrestling), talking about wrestling on a wrestling podcast, then he gets asked about what this guy Joey Styles has been saying on his Twitter/blog, and he goes off and says all the things that frustrated smart liberals have been thinking, but few have been willing to say out loud, and he’s intelligent, articulate, passionate and righteously angry. It’s the whole package, not just the fact that it’s a random guy venting.

He really only goes wrong when he says “More people were trying to keep him from getting elected then were trying to prosecute Charles Manson for the Sharon Tate murders” (there was only one guy prosecuting Manson, Vincent Bugliosi) but I guess he couldn’t come up with a better analogy on short notice.

It is a great rant, and I’m very disappointed that after a spurt of new page views, it seems like it’s going to be forgotten quickly. It should go viral. This guy should be all over the TV (Stewart, Maddow, Olbermann, Maher). This guy should have his own TV or radio show. It looks like none of that’s going to happen, and it’s a damned shame.

For those of us who know about it though, it’s a fantastic little secret we share.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/75 "2009-06-14T05:47:59Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> It is a great rant, and I’m very disappointed that after a spurt of new page views, it seems like it’s going to be forgotten quickly. It should go viral. This guy should be all over the TV (Stewart, Maddow, Olbermann, Maher). This guy should have his own TV or radio show. It looks like none of that’s going to happen, and it’s a damned shame.

He’s got his own show. It’s called _TNA Impact!_. Check local listings for details.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/76 "2009-06-14T07:48:12Z")

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Yeah, well, granted, but I’m not going to watch/listen to a wrestling show on the off-chance that he talks politics. He should have a show where he talks politics. I think so anyway. He’s smart, knowledgeable, articulate, willing to tell it like it is, doesn’t give a rat’s ass what anyone thinks of him, and should be the guy who kicks the wimpy Democrats in their nonexistent balls to try to get them to grow a pair already. He should be the guy to go head-to-head with these right-wing pundits and say the things that our pundits are too timid to say.

Obviously he’s not ready to retire from wrestling. That’s our loss, because we need him.

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**Author:** ![Jihi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jihi/32/17768_2.png) [@Jihi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jihi)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/77 "2009-06-14T16:57:56Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> Obviously he’s not ready to retire from wrestling. That’s our loss, because we need him.

While the idea of Cornette with his own pundit show on TV or radio is certainly intriguing, (and I know I’d tune in given half a chance), the likelihood of that is almost nil. It’s obvious he’s passionate about politics and the direction the country is going in, but wrestling has always been his life. He’s been involved in it since 1975, (he was only 14 at the time), and it’s allowed him to pay the bills and put food on the table quite comfortably. Knowing Cornette as I do, (only as a fan, I don’t know him personally of course), if this rant were to gain any serious traction I don’t think he’d be averse to doing guest spots on talk shows, but a regular gig would almost certainly be out of the question.

Also, you’re absolutely correct in your assessment of how the interview went. I’m sure he probably went to the podcast expecting to discuss his career and the wrestling industry in general and then the host popped the Styles question on him and he went off the cuff for fifteen minutes. I really don’t think it was ever meant to be a prelude to anything else. It makes me curious what he’d say with a little bit of prep time first though.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/78 "2009-06-14T17:28:32Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> It is a great rant, and I’m very disappointed that after a spurt of new page views, it seems like it’s going to be forgotten quickly. It should go viral. This guy should be all over the TV (Stewart, Maddow, Olbermann, Maher). This guy should have his own TV or radio show. It looks like none of that’s going to happen, and it’s a damned shame.

Before someone cites this thread as an example of how _all_ liberals support this sort of vitriolic rant, let me say that I don’t. I have some disagreements with how “conservatism” has been practiced in this country during my lifetime, but I’d rather see people making their case from facts than from anger.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/79 "2009-06-14T18:34:26Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> **Carol Stream** , is that you? Truth hurts, I realize, but don’t you at least recognize the fact that this wasn’t a political pundit ranting on a political show, like Limbaugh, Hannity and the others? This was a WRESTLING manager, ranting on a podcast about WRESTLING, meant to only be heard by the faithful wrestling followers. Maybe you don’t realize that because the YouTube video, uh, audio, cut out all the talk about wrestling. It was originally a half hour show.

No, I got that it was about wrestling. But as a political commentary it was a list of talking points screamed by someone trained with WWE Mic skills. Why would the bullet point list of liberal talking points hurt?

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> So, here you have a wrestling manager, a _southern_ wrestling manager, that most of us have never heard of (though of course quite famous in the world of wrestling), talking about wrestling on a wrestling podcast, then he gets asked about what this guy Joey Styles has been saying on his Twitter/blog, and he goes off and says all the things that frustrated smart liberals have been thinking, but few have been willing to say out loud, and he’s intelligent, articulate, passionate and righteously angry. It’s the whole package, not just the fact that it’s a random guy venting.

Yeah, he goes on to repeat what liberals have been saying over and over and over again. He wasn’t saying what everyone was feeling but couldn’t express. That’s nonsense. That people have been afraid to say it out loud is utter nonsense, it’s factually incorrect. He is part of a Greek chorus saying the same exact thing, not the focus character giving voice to the stifled oppression of an entire generation. :rolleyes: It was an SDMB BBQ Pit rant done in Wrestler-speak. I’ve heard it all before thousands of times.

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> He really only goes wrong when he says “More people were trying to keep him from getting elected then were trying to prosecute Charles Manson for the Sharon Tate murders” (there was only one guy prosecuting Manson, Vincent Bugliosi) but I guess he couldn’t come up with a better analogy on short notice.

Yeah, that’s the point where he strayed farthest from the cliche arguments.

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> It is a great rant, and I’m very disappointed that after a spurt of new page views, it seems like it’s going to be forgotten quickly. It should go viral. This guy should be all over the TV (Stewart, Maddow, Olbermann, Maher). This guy should have his own TV or radio show. It looks like none of that’s going to happen, and it’s a damned shame.

It’s not a great rant, it’s more of the same. It would be a damned shame if this piece of trivial bullshit were to go viral so that we could have yet another bombastic douchebag all over television saying what half of the other bombastic douchebags are saying, railing at the bombastic douchebags who they disagree with.

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> For those of us who know about it though, it’s a fantastic little secret we share.

Are you serious?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [June 14, 2009, 6:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-cornettes-awe-inspiring-rant-against-the-right-wing-on-youtube/499306/80 "2009-06-14T18:37:18Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> Before someone cites this thread as an example of how _all_ liberals support this sort of vitriolic rant, let me say that I don’t. I have some disagreements with how “conservatism” has been practiced in this country during my lifetime, but I’d rather see people making their case from facts than from anger.

Exactly. Liberals are much more adopting the tactics of the right. Something is touted as ‘awe-inspiring’ merely because he had good diction while screaming. There was nothing I don’t read about twice daily on the Dope in his rant, it’s brilliance must therefore reside not so much in what he said but in that he was preaching to the choir and able to scream like a pro-Wrestler.

/me slams a case of Brawndo.

It’s what Liberals crave.

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