# Jim Croce, revisited (amazing soccer moment) **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [March 4, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228 "2010-03-04T02:04:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![RalfCoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RalfCoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RalfCoder)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/1 "2010-03-04T02:04:27Z")
You don’t tug on Superman’s cape, [You don’t kick into the wind](http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/blog/sow_experts/post/Strong-wind-scores-an-incredible-own-goal?urn=sow,225434), You don’t pull the mask off the ol’ Lone Ranger, and you don’t mess around with Jim. ---
**Author:** ![PapSett](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ecc23a/32.png) [@PapSett](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PapSett)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/2 "2010-03-04T12:57:09Z")
Spit. You don’t \*spit \*into the wind. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/3 "2010-03-04T13:01:50Z")
Moved, with edited title, from MPSIMS to The Game Room. ---
**Author:** ![RalfCoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@RalfCoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RalfCoder)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/4 "2010-03-04T13:12:48Z")
> [@PapSett](#): > > Spit. You don’t \*spit \*into the wind. Nope. Kick. Watch the video on the link. It’s an amazing goal scored by a soccer team. Thank you, Twickster for re-forumming this. It’s been awhile since I was here, and I’m re-learning my way around the place. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/5 "2010-03-04T13:36:21Z")
No prob – even folks who are around regularly still forget about the Game Room forum sometimes. Welcome back! ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/6 "2010-03-04T18:20:49Z")
It’s a crazy video, but that shouldn’t actually count as a goal, should it? ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/7 "2010-03-04T18:57:56Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > It’s a crazy video, but that shouldn’t actually count as a goal, should it? Why not? ball was in play and it went into the goal. ---
**Author:** ![borschevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/97f17d/32.png) [@borschevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/borschevsky)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/8 "2010-03-04T19:06:06Z")
There are lots of situations where a ball in play has to be touched by a player before a goal can be scored. I just looked it up, and in this case the [fifa laws](http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf) explicitly state that this isn’t a goal: > [@Law 16](#): > > A goal may be scored directly from a goal kick, but only against the opposing team. ---
**Author:** ![Baron\_Greenback](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baron_greenback/32/48_2.png) [@Baron\_Greenback](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baron_Greenback)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/9 "2010-03-04T19:47:27Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > There are lots of situations where a ball in play has to be touched by a player before a goal can be scored. I just looked it up, and in this case the [fifa laws](http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf) explicitly state that this isn’t a goal: I think the correct call is to award a corner to the opposing team. ---
**Author:** ![Piker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ba9def/32.png) [@Piker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Piker)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/10 "2010-03-04T21:11:17Z")
Apparently, the game is being replayed, as the goal should not have counted. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2010, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/11 "2010-03-04T23:36:59Z")
In a youth league game(maybe 10 years old) in one game I scored two goals on corner kicks directly thanks to a strong wind. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![OldGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/3bc359/32.png) [@OldGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldGuy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/12 "2010-03-05T03:01:53Z")
> [@borschevsky](#): > > There are lots of situations where a ball in play has to be touched by a player before a goal can be scored. I just looked it up, and in this case the [fifa laws](http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf) explicitly state that this isn’t a goal: > > A goal may be scored directly from a goal kick, but only against the opposing team. This is rather strange. It implies strongly that something like this has happened before. Who would expect a goal kick to ever go directly into one’s own goal. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/13 "2010-03-05T03:04:30Z")
> [@OldGuy](#): > > This is rather strange. It implies strongly that something like this has happened before. Who would expect a goal kick to ever go directly into one’s own goal. I wonder if the possibility of a a goal kick bouncing off a clumsy ref into the goal has anything to do with the reasoning. ---
**Author:** ![Snarky\_Kong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Snarky\_Kong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snarky_Kong)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/14 "2010-03-05T05:17:02Z")
> [@wolfman](#): > > I wonder if the possibility of a a goal kick bouncing off a clumsy ref into the goal has anything to do with the reasoning. Would that count as directly? If the keeper had tipped the ball would it have counted? ---
**Author:** ![duality72](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duality72/32/3910_2.png) [@duality72](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duality72)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2010, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-croce-revisited-amazing-soccer-moment/531228/15 "2010-03-05T16:54:10Z")
> [@Snarky\_Kong](#): > > Would that count as directly? If the keeper had tipped the ball would it have counted? For the ref, no. The ref is considered part of the field; “touches” refer only to players. If the keeper had tipped the ball on its way into the goal, that would have been a touch and the goal would have counted. If the kicker had touched the ball, it would be an indirect free kick for the opposing team.