# Jim Harbaugh watch **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** football-nfl\ **Created:** [January 13, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054 "2024-01-13T22:32:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/1 "2024-01-13T22:32:02Z")
It wouldn’t be January in Michigan without Jim Harbaugh’s annual NFL flirtation. This year does feel a little different: he’s now beat OSU three years in a row, won the B1G three years in a row and he’s won the Natty. He’s just wrapped up celebration week in Ann Arbor by riding in the back of a vintage fire truck for the championship parade, so let’s get to speculatin’ about what he decides to do now. He hired sports agent Don Yee in December, and he’s reportedly interviewing with the Chargers this week. > **[Jim Harbaugh set to interview with Chargers in major step toward NFL return](https://nypost.com/2024/01/13/sports/jim-harbaugh-to-interview-with-chargers-in-step-toward-nfl-return/)** > > Jim Harbaugh is weighing another NFL run after nine seasons at Michigan. Reports from those close to him say his first choice would be to stay at Michigan, he’s looking for iron-clad assurances that they will stick with him regardless of what the ncaa does this year in regard to the investigations. He lives next to his parents in AA, and the university has already offered him more money per year than any head coach in the NFL makes. > **[Michigan football insider: 'Jim Harbaugh genuinely wants to stay'](https://gbmwolverine.com/posts/michigan-football-insider-jim-harbaugh-genuinely-wants-to-stay-01hm0npa50xb)** > > There has been a lot of talk about the future of Michigan football head coach Jim Harbaugh. Heck, there was plenty of talk about it leading up to the national c Also might go to the raiders, but less likely. As a Wolverine myself, i hope he stays, and i suspect he will. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2024, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/2 "2024-01-13T23:22:00Z")
A couple days ago, a UM player said in an interview he is already aware of what Harbaugh is going to do, which suggests either he’s already been offered a pro job or he’s staying with Michigan. Or maybe it just means that the players were made aware that he’s at least going to interview with San Diego. [https://athlonsports.com/college-football/michigan-football-will-johnson-star-knows-j-j-mccarthy-jim-harbaugh-college-football-future](https://athlonsports.com/college-football/michigan-football-will-johnson-star-knows-j-j-mccarthy-jim-harbaugh-college-football-future) ---
**Author:** ![Omniscient](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omniscient/32/3290_2.png) [@Omniscient](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omniscient)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/3 "2024-01-14T02:08:38Z")
This probably belongs in this thread. > [@NFL Black Monday 2024 thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/nfl-black-monday-2024-thread/995750/69): > > Well, he said he is open to it… “I don’t know that,” Carroll said when asked about his potential desire to continue coaching ([via ESPN’s Brady Henderson](https://twitter.com/BradyHenderson/status/1745854086791266430?s=20)). “I’ve got plenty of energy for it and thought and willingness, but I can’t imagine there’s a place, the right one. I don’t know. I’m open to everything, but I’m not holding my breath on that. There’s a lot of world out here that I’m excited about challenging and going after. So if that happens, it happens. We’ll see.” To me that means h… ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 14, 2024, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/4 "2024-01-14T07:37:29Z")
Jim has one final goal and that is a Super Bowl title. I’m sure he hasn’t forgotten the loss at Super Bowl XLVII in 2013. I think he’s waiting for the right NFL team that has players that fit his system. He might stay at Michigan another year or two until that opportunity happens. I don’t know enough about the Chargers. Whether it requires too big a rebuilding job. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 16, 2024, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/5 "2024-01-16T13:49:18Z")
Negotiations with UM are supposedly stuck at what potential charges he’ll be immune from. Money isn’t the issue, so I suspect he does want to stay at Michigan, but wants some sort of guarantee he isn’t chucked if some additional punishment is given by the NCAA. > **[Jim Harbaugh/Michigan Negotiations Hit Impasse Over One Issue: REPORT](https://www.outkick.com/jim-harbaugh-michigan-wolverines-negotiations-stall/)** > > Negotiations between Jim Harbaugh and Michigan reportedly have hit a standstill. What is the problem? Will Harbaugh go to the NFL? ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/6 "2024-01-25T03:07:46Z")
> **[Harbaugh returning to NFL to coach Chargers after leading Michigan to...](https://apnews.com/article/la-chargers-jim-harbaugh-2b8eb8ef9e0a934b066936c6e57e64f1)** > > Jim Harbaugh will be the head coach of the Los Angeles Chargers, leaving Michigan after capping his ninth season as coach of college football’s winningest program with the school’s first national championship since 1997, two people familiar with the... ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/7 "2024-01-25T03:11:21Z")
Now the Chargers are my least favorite team. I want him to fail spectacularly and regret his jump to the pros for the rest of his life. He could’ve had buildings named after him at Michigan if he had stayed. Now he’ll be just another coach who, at best, wins a Super Bowl and will be forgotten in 20 years. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 11:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/8 "2024-01-25T11:56:01Z")
I read the NCAA investigation played a part in this decision. Heck even in the NFL he may be a target. I remember Harbaugh’s intense coaching style became a problem with the 49ers. It works better at college with young players. > **[Can NCAA punish Jim Harbaugh? Former Michigan football coach leaves for NFL...](https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/2024/01/24/ncaa-punishments-michigan-football-jim-harbaugh-investigations-los-angeles-chargers/72345786007/)** > > Jim Harbaugh is out at Michigan football and the jurisdiction of the NCAA. Now the question is what that means for the investigations into the program. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/9 "2024-01-25T15:01:14Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I remember Harbaugh’s intense coaching style became a problem with the 49ers. Eh, a few players got tired of his shtick, especially after they realized he didn’t actually do much. Most of the players regard him well. The bigger issue was his dedication to antagonizing his bosses. He did it at San Diego State, where he had success but was happily shown the door. He did it at Stanford, where he had success but was happily shown the door. He did it with the 49ers, where he had success but was happily booted out the door. He did it at Michigan, too, who were masochistic enough to take it like Kevin Bacon in _Animal House_ but are now left holding the bag now that he’s absconded out the door. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/10 "2024-01-25T16:43:11Z")
I remember John saying in an interview that his relationship with Jim was strained for awhile after the Super Bowl. I can’t relate to that level of competitiveness. Losses can sting but it is just a game. Family comes first. Jim probably will find success with the LA Chargers. He is a good coach. It be interesting to see how Michigan does next season. They have a lot of talent on the roster. ---
**Author:** ![snowthx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowthx/32/10660_2.png) [@snowthx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snowthx)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/11 "2024-01-25T16:51:25Z")
He probably doesn’t care much what others think about him or when they’ll forget about him. He wants that Super Bowl for himself, and there is only one path to getting there. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/12 "2024-01-25T18:27:54Z")
That’s obviously what was on his mind, but i don’t understand that. He could’ve become a Michigan football legend, bigger than Schembechler. Beloved player, beloved coach. He took this program to the top of the mountain… and then left. With a Natty in hand, back to back to back B1G championships and consistently eating Ryan Day’s lunch, plus Saban’s retirement, he could’ve been the top dog in college recruitment and built a program that is the gold standard for the next 15 years. He does that, the university could very well rename the Big House as Harbaugh Stadium complete with a 20 foot statue at the corner of Stadium and Main. He chose poorly, imo. Michigan offered to make him the highest paid coach in college football with an elevator clause keeping him at that level, plus protections against the NCAA’s bullshit. Plus he had a student body that worshiped him, an alumni association that threw gobs of money and support his way and a college president who would bend over backwards for him. He had politicians from both sides of the aisle across the state begging him to stay. A governor who is an MSU alumna singing his praises. He won’t get a fraction of the love in LA that he could’ve had here for the rest of his life, even if he wins back to back Super Bowls there. Legend status at Michigan vs just another nfl head coach who may or may not win a ring. I know which one I’d have chosen. But he’s gonna do him. I know I’m being a petty asshole, but I don’t wish him well in LA. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/13 "2024-01-25T18:35:56Z")
I certainly don’t blame him. Maybe he’s bored with winning at Michigan and just wants a new challenge? That’s a pretty acceptable path for oneself. The fact that he gave up all he did by leaving Michigan seems to indicate that he doesn’t care about the things that you find important and has an inner goal he seeks to chase, and if he didn’t try, he would’ve been kicking himself in the ass with regret that he didn’t try. I dunno. Different things drive different people. That said, I did enjoy seeing tOSU getting their asses handed to them lately by Michigan. ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2024, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/14 "2024-01-25T18:50:28Z")
It’s not money or fame at this point. I think the simplest explanation is probably it - it took too long for Michigan to give him his immunity guarantee. If he was going to commit to Michigan, he wanted Michigan to commit to him. And they didn’t. They didn’t even offer immunity from the NCAA sanctions until it became clear he was going to walk. That’s not commitment, that’s having their hands forced. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2024, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-harbaugh-watch/996054/15 "2024-01-27T06:00:30Z")
> **[Michigan promotes offensive coordinator Sherrone Moore to replace Jim...](https://apnews.com/article/michigan-sherrone-moore-coach-jim-harbaugh-b68e52a8f87770f7aa47128d13df1bab)** > > Michigan has hired Sherrone Moore to replace coach Jim Harbaugh, giving the 37-year-old offensive coordinator an opportunity to lead college football’s winningest program.