# Jim Inhofe is a dumbass

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 1, 2010, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586 "2010-12-01T21:14:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/61 "2010-12-02T15:42:20Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> [Here’s one.](http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=1356566&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312)

I find myself trusting news articles less and less these days, but I suppose that’s satisfactory enough. Thanks.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/62 "2010-12-02T15:58:59Z")

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My only regret is that the parade name wasn’t changed earlier. It’s only been the last couple of years that Inhofe hasn’t shown up. I hope his kids and grandkids hate him for ruining the HOLIDAYS for them.

Here is the news channel site. You can see from the comments section how the grandstanding plays out with our [del]morons[/del] populace. The same group that through ballot initiatives expressed the state’s anti, -muslim, -foreigner, -immigrant, -education, -obama attitudes. [various pit, election, GD threads also].  
[URL=“http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=13591934”][SIZE=3]http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=13591934]Inhofe Parade Boycott

Asshole pilot.

Asshat Climate Change denier.

I should start a Stupid Oklahoman Idea of the Day pit thread.

Can’t wait to retirement and departure day.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/63 "2010-12-02T16:18:26Z")

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Why is it that Catholicism gets bashed so fervently on these boards by the Doper atheists? I’d wager that if I did a search of threads that dealt with knocking down religion, Catholicism would far outnumber any other faith. Why not hate on all of them? Where is the outcry against:

Islam: 1.5 billion  
Hinduism: 900 million  
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million  
Buddhism: 376 million  
primal-indigenous: 300 million  
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million  
Sikhism: 23 million  
Juche: 19 million  
Spiritism: 15 million  
Judaism: 14 million  
Baha’i: 7 million  
Jainism: 4.2 million  
Shinto: 4 million  
Cao Dai: 4 million  
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million  
Tenrikyo: 2 million  
Neo-Paganism: 1 million  
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand  
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand

If any of the aforementioned faiths decided to have a spiritual parade would you break out the pitchforks and have them change the name of their holiday?

And another question: do any of the atheists on this board celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day or Valentines Day? You do realize that both of those holidays are based on members of the Catholic clergy, right?

Tell you what, while I’m celebrating my faith this season have another humdrum day and take a break from the Catholic bashing.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/64 "2010-12-02T16:25:32Z")

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The Juche parades are a bit scary - I wouldn’t be sorry if they went away.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/65 "2010-12-02T16:32:00Z")

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[Link.](http://media.sacbee.com/static/weblogs/photos/images/2010/oct10/north_korea_sm/north_korea_03.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/66 "2010-12-02T16:36:18Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> If any of the aforementioned faiths decided to have a spiritual parade would you break out the pitchforks and have them change the name of their holiday?

I’ll take “Missing The Point” for 1000, Alex.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/67 "2010-12-02T16:40:31Z")

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> [@Mr.Moto](#):
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> The Juche parades are a bit scary - I wouldn’t be sorry if they went away.

They’re hiding in your mailbox… waiting for the inevitable pounce!

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/68 "2010-12-02T16:44:40Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/69 "2010-12-02T16:53:02Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> If any of the aforementioned faiths decided to have a spiritual parade would you break out the pitchforks and have them change the name of their holiday?

Nobody cares if Christians have a “Christmas parade.” Nobody has demanded they they change the word. If a _municipality_ was to have a publicly funded partade in the name of one of those other religions, conservative Christians would have embolisms. They think the government should only publicly fund and endorse Christianitym and that if the government does _not_ publicly fund and endorse Christianity, then that amounts to persecution of Christians.

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> And another question: do any of the atheists on this board celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day or Valentines Day? You do realize that both of those holidays are based on members of the Catholic clergy, right?

Sure I celebrate them. I also celebrate Christmas and Easter. What does private celebration have to do with objecting to state endorsement, and how does a lack of state endorsment amount to a persecution of Catholics?

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> Tell you what, while I’m celebrating my faith this season have another humdrum day and take a break from the Catholic bashing.

What Catholic bashing?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/70 "2010-12-02T16:53:14Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> Why is it that Catholicism gets bashed so fervently on these boards by the Doper atheists?

Who the fuck was bashing Catholicism? Nobody even mentioned in this thread until you did. We were talking about James Inhofe, who is a devout numbskull and _a Presbyterian_. There was some complaining about Christians who depict themselves as a persecuted majority, which Inhofe was doing. I find that crap very annoying myself.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4bbf92/32.png) [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Hamsandwich)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/71 "2010-12-02T16:55:32Z")

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> [@Bosstone](#):
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> I’ll take “Missing The Point” for 1000, Alex.

Ooookkkkk…

Since the OP didn’t contain a link to the original article I have to take it on FAITH that the following quote is accurate:

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> Have you seen any instances of the word “Christmas” being replaced by the considerably more ethnic “Holiday”? Sen. Jim Inhofe sure has. And now that his hometown “Christmas” parade is a “Holiday” parade, he’ll keep his horse stabled…“I did not do so last year because I’m not going to ride in a Christmas parade that doesn’t recognize Christmas,” he said. “I am hopeful that the good people of Tulsa and the city’s leadership will demand a correction to this shameful attempt to take Christ, the true reason for our celebration, out of the parade’s title. Until the parade is again named the Christmas Parade of Lights, I will not participate.”

Jim Inhofe is upset that the Tulsa Christmas parade has been changed to the Holiday Parade. Check.

The majority of responses to the OP celebrate that he upset and wonder why Inhofe is getting his knickers in a twist. Check.

A Catholic holiday is under assault on these boards AGAIN, for the umpteenth time. Check.

A poster wonders why other faiths aren’t nearly as denigrated as Catholicism and would like to know why. Check.

Where am I missing the point?

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**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/72 "2010-12-02T16:56:02Z")

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**Darth Hamsandwich** , you do know that not all Christians are Catholics, right?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/73 "2010-12-02T16:56:51Z")

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Christmas isn’t a Catholic holiday, dipshit. It’s a _Christian_ holiday. If you can’t tell the difference between Catholicism and Christianity, you should stop posting in threads about religion until you’ve passed ninth grade social studies.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/74 "2010-12-02T16:57:31Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> And another question: do any of the atheists on this board celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day or Valentines Day? You do realize that both of those holidays are based on members of the Catholic clergy, right?

And I’m sure the esteemed beatified Pat and Val were all about green beer and chocolates in heart shaped boxes too. Just as Jesus surely dressed up in a red suit and put an evergreen in his living room.  
Christmas is a secular holiday whether you like it or not. If you’re that upset about it, I suggest you lobby to have all references to Santa, Rudolph, Frosty and the elves stricken from the season as well.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/75 "2010-12-02T16:57:32Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Happens. Can we at least agree, though, that a parade of lights has no innate association with Christmas, unlike a fir tree covered in lights and jingly things?

Christmas trees don’t have any innate religious association either. They are used by Christians, but they have zero to do with any religious aspect of the holiday. Christians adopted the practice from pagans. In my opinion, it’s fine if Christians want to use pagan symbols to decorate their parties, but they don’t have a right to demand that the government call those symbols “Christian” when they aren’t.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/76 "2010-12-02T16:59:55Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> Why is it that Catholicism gets bashed so fervently on these boards by the Doper atheists? I’d wager that if I did a search of threads that dealt with knocking down religion, Catholicism would far outnumber any other faith. Why not hate on all of them? \<snip\>
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> And another question: do any of the atheists on this board celebrate Saint Patrick’s Day or Valentines Day? You do realize that both of those holidays are based on members of the Catholic clergy, right?
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> Tell you what, while I’m celebrating my faith this season have another humdrum day and take a break from the Catholic bashing.

You’re the first one to mention the Catholics.

Currently tending Atheist/Agnostic, I was raised Catholic in the Bible Belt. I guaran-damn-tee you that 99% of the “War Against Christmas” crowd are Jack-Chick-Reading, Catholic-Hating, Bible-Thumping Fundamentalists. In fact, their direct spiritual ancestors are the dour Puritans of New England–who refused to celebrate Christmas because they saw the Pagan roots of the “Popish” holiday.

Yup, missing the point…

(Unless you a member of [The Catholic League](http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/censorship-advocate-bill-donohue%E2%80%99s-history-right-wing-demagoguery).)

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/77 "2010-12-02T17:02:17Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> Ooookkkkk…
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> Since the OP didn’t contain a link to the original article I have to take it on FAITH that the following quote is accurate:
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> Jim Inhofe is upset that the Tulsa Christmas parade has been changed to the Holiday Parade. Check.
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> The majority of responses to the OP celebrate that he upset and wonder why Inhofe is getting his knickers in a twist. Check.
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> A Catholic holiday is under assault on these boards AGAIN, for the umpteenth time. Check.
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> A poster wonders why other faiths aren’t nearly as denigrated as Catholicism and would like to know why. Check.
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> Where am I missing the point?

You can’t be serious.

1. Christmas is not just a “Catholic” holiday or even just a Christian holiday.
2. No one has attacked it.

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**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/78 "2010-12-02T17:05:25Z")

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> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> In my opinion, it’s fine if Christians want to use pagan symbols to decorate their parties, but they don’t have a right to demand that the government call those symbols “Christian” when they aren’t.

Sure they do - they have as much right to demand such as you have to demand that the government not do such. Considering that “Christmas tree” is a term in common use and that the majority of the country is Christian, they may have more pull with a legislator than you do in this case.

There is no establishment issue with the term “Christmas tree” whether you use it, a department store uses it, or a school does. That seems to be fairly well settled law.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/79 "2010-12-02T17:06:01Z")

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> [@Bridget\_Burke](#):
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> I guaran-damn-tee you that 99% of the “War Against Christmas” crowd are Jack-Chick-Reading, Catholic-Hating, Bible-Thumping Fundamentalists.

Not all of them. We even have one or two [on this very board.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=356442)😛

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-inhofe-is-a-dumbass/562586/80 "2010-12-02T17:06:20Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> Where am I missing the point?

Okay, the Catholic thing is too funny, but you’ve already been jumped for that, so I’ll skip it. Two things:

1: An inclusive celebration should have an inclusive name.

2: Most people in this thread other than the standard extremists aren’t necessarily celebrating that there has been another successful attack on **Christianity** (heehee, Catholicism? Seriously?), but rather that Inhofe is being such a twit about it. It’s right there in the piece you quoted:

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> “I did not do so last year because I’m not going to ride in a Christmas parade that doesn’t recognize Christmas,” he said.

An inclusive celebration recognizes Christmas AND Chanukah AND New Years AND whatever other winter holidays someone sees fit to celebrate. It’s ludicrous that “recognizing other faiths” should equal “being ignored”.

> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#):
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> Christmas trees don’t have any innate religious association either. They are used by Christians, but they have zero to do with any religious aspect of the holiday. Christians adopted the practice from pagans. In my opinion, it’s fine if Christians want to use pagan symbols to decorate their parties, but they don’t have a right to demand that the government call those symbols “Christian” when they aren’t.

They may not be tied inherently to the original meaning of Christmas, but they are certainly a specific symbol of Christmas. I wouldn’t call latkes holiday potatoes either.

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