# Jim Jordan accused of ignoring sexual abuse as a coach **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [July 3, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230 "2018-07-03T15:13:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/1 "2018-07-03T15:13:27Z")
> **[GOP Rep. Jim Jordan Accused of Turning Blind Eye to Sex Abuse as Ohio State...](https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/national-international/gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-of-turning-blind-eye-to-sex-abuse-as-ohio-state-wrestling-coach/2059702/)** > > Former wrestlers at Ohio State University have accused their former coach, Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, of failing to stop the team’s doctor from molesting them and other students, NBC News reported. In April the university announced it was investigating... So far he’s denying any knowledge, which doesn’t strike me as credible. Strikingly similar to the Michigan gymnast doctor case, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/2 "2018-07-03T17:05:15Z")
A summary – Jordan (R - OH) was an assistant wrestling coach for Ohio State U a few decades back, and several wrestlers have come forward and accused the team doctor (now deceased) of routinely groping wrestlers, and that at least one of them specifically told Jordan about it. Jordan denies any knowledge of this. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [July 3, 2018, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/3 "2018-07-03T17:08:59Z")
Why is it always wrestling coaches? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/4 "2018-07-04T01:39:41Z")
Pulling a Paterno? And of course the teflon coating that repubs enjoy (especially the freedom caucus’ers) will reduce this to a very quick handwave. We all have our pet peeve shitheads - mine is this twatwaffle. Jordan is about as toxic an excuse for a “statesman” in Washington as it gets. He is a psychotic, high strung fucking twatwaffle, and the schandenfraude in seeing the (incredibly unlikely) reckoning for this “oversight” would be considerable, muchly so. Noooo problems seeing this fucker go down - too bad not here, though.:mad: ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/5 "2018-07-04T01:47:07Z")
If I were accused of allowing up to 2,000 college students get sexually abused and raped, I would be trying to undermine the FBI too. ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/6 "2018-07-04T01:51:07Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Why is it always wrestling coaches? Well, it is a very hands-on sport. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/7 "2018-07-04T02:13:34Z")
> [@E-DUB](#): > > Why is it always wrestling coaches? Why is it always Republican wrestling coaches? ---
**Author:** ![jasg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f0a364/32.png) [@jasg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jasg)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/8 "2018-07-04T02:39:31Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Why is it always Republican wrestling coaches? It’s the other, little talked about, Hastert Rule. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/9 "2018-07-04T03:28:38Z")
Now, we’re left to wonder whether his devoted loyalty to the Dotard is that of a true believer, or that of a scared little man who’s knows that there are some very interesting files on him in the Kremlin… ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/10 "2018-07-04T06:57:24Z")
I find his response not believable. Mainly because these events happened so many years ago I would expect him to be saying something along the lines of, “That’s too long a time ago for me to remember accurately.” But for him to definitively state that they didn’t happen? That doesn’t pass the sniff test. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/11 "2018-07-04T16:22:06Z")
Old Time Radio wants you to know [it’s not them!](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Jordan_(actor)) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/12 "2018-07-04T16:31:48Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Why is it always Republican wrestling coaches? How else can you get a sweaty muscular man into a compromising position without anyone thinking less of you? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/13 "2018-07-04T18:11:29Z")
I do not see any reference to an election in this thread. I considered sending it to Great Debates, but I have seen no factual information cited or debated. Off to The BBQ Pit. [/Moderating] ---
**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/14 "2018-07-04T18:58:39Z")
It’s a perfect example of the cruelty that goes hand in hand with republicanism. ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/15 "2018-07-04T19:19:02Z")
Isn’t the whole point of wrestling to grope each other until someone gets too uncomfortable and quits? Just like MMA ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/16 "2018-07-04T20:25:18Z")
It’s just more o’ them “values” we keep hearing about. ---
**Author:** ![Pippers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b5a626/32.png) [@Pippers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pippers)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/17 "2018-07-04T23:07:45Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If I were accused of allowing up to 2,000 college students get sexually abused and raped, I would be trying to undermine the FBI too. I’d been snickering over this news until I read your post. You put it into perspective in one sentence. I hope Jordan gets his comeuppance, and I really hope those boys get some type of closure. What a shit deal. Imagine you know, that the adults know, that you’re being molested and they do nothing. And to top it all off dick-stroker Jimmy Jordan is lying to the press, telling them he is willing to assist law enforcement in anyway he can, yet he hasn’t responded to the lawyers handling the case. > **[Powerful GOP politician accused of turning blind eye to sexual abuse at Ohio...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/powerful-gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-turning-blind-eye-sexual-n888386)** > > "It's sad for me to hear that he's denying," said one former wrestler. "I don’t know why he would, unless it’s a cover-up." Shortly after the NBC News story was published, Fury added the following statement: "He has not been contacted by investigators about the matter but will assist them in any way they ask, because if what is alleged is true, the victims deserve a full investigation and justice.” But Kathleen Trafford of Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, the Dayton, Ohio-based law firm that was appointed as legal counsel to Ohio State, said in a statement that investigators “had previously contacted Rep. Jordan’s office by email and phone to request that he participate in an interview.” “To date, Rep. Jordan has not responded to those requests,” Trafford wrote. “The investigative team is continuing its efforts to schedule an interview with Rep. Jordan.” ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [July 4, 2018, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/18 "2018-07-04T23:24:31Z")
> [@JohnT](#): > > If I were accused of allowing up to 2,000 college students get sexually abused and raped, I would be trying to undermine the FBI too. From whence that number? ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/19 "2018-07-05T00:18:00Z")
> **[Powerful GOP politician accused of turning blind eye to sexual abuse at Ohio...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/powerful-gop-rep-jim-jordan-accused-turning-blind-eye-sexual-n888386)** > > "It's sad for me to hear that he's denying," said one former wrestler. "I don’t know why he would, unless it’s a cover-up." “Strauss sexually assaulted male athletes in at least fifteen varsity sports during his employment at OSU from 1978 through 1998,” DiSabato wrote in a June 26 email to Kathleen M. Trafford of Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, the Columbus-based law firm that represents Ohio State. “Athlete victims include members of the following programs: football, basketball, wrestling, swimming, cheerleading, volleyball, lacrosse, gymnastics, ice hockey, soccer, baseball, tennis, track and cross country.” Chillingly, DiSabato added: “Based on testimony from victim athletes from each of the aforementioned varsity sports, we estimate that Strauss sexually assaulted and/or raped **a minimum of 1,500/2,000 athletes at OSU from 1978 through 1998.**" ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2018, 12:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230/20 "2018-07-05T12:30:06Z")
Apparently, Jordan just didn’t know about this abuse. [He watched.](https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/ohio-state-sx-assault-victim-claims-gop-rep-jim-jordan-witnessed-doctor-committing-lewd-acts-showers/#.Wz3xrCherdQ.twitter) > [@](#): > > “These conversations were not individual conversations,” Di Sabato _(One of the wrestlers, JT)_ recalled. “They were conversations with a group of athletes who were complaining on a regular basis, not only about Dr. Strauss but the conditions within the hall that forced us to take showers with, not only Dr. Strauss, but other university faculty members and professors who had access to our shower facility that led to lewd acts, masturbation, excessive soaping of the groin area.” > > “And Dr. Strauss took a lot of showers and soaped himself a lot,” he added. “When you look at the definition of sexual abuse and sexual assault — and Jim Jordan went on record saying he knew about the facilities, he took showers with us. He saw Dr. Strauss and others perform these acts in front of us.” [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-jordan-accused-of-ignoring-sexual-abuse-as-a-coach/817230.md?page=2)