# Jim Morrison oediphus complex? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [June 9, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571 "2012-06-09T00:40:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/41 "2012-06-14T19:01:31Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > No, Morrison wrote the lyrics. It was part of a film he did called [HWY.](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HWY:_An_American_Pastoral) Cool. I thought somebody here would know. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/42 "2012-06-14T19:22:10Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > To stir up the “who’s the doucheiest?” conversation a bit more, Johnny Rotten seems like less of an asshole because he knows he’s a collosal asshole. Jim Morrison didn’t seem to realize he was a collosal asshole, which made him an even bigger asshole. > > I guess I can’t understand how the Sex Pistols were pretentious. They were about as pretentious as The Monkeys. I mean, they were pretend, but they weren’t pretentious. They knew they were pretend. That’s where I was coming from, yes. Well articulated. ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/43 "2012-06-14T20:15:51Z")
> [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](#): > > And more to the point, how does that relate to your username? I’m going to take a wild stab and say the the OP’s username is an anagram of his real name à la Mr. Mojo Risin/Jim Morrison. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2012, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/44 "2012-06-14T20:48:29Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > à la Mr. Mojo Risin/Jim Morrison. Since we are openly discussing likes and dislikes about the guy, can I just add that “Mr. Mojo Risin” is so silly. I could dig “I am the Lizard King” - that was cool and dangerous - but Mr. Mojo…just oy. But I can’t deal with Jay-Z calling himself HOVA either, and “H to the Izzo, V to the Izzay” just makes me giggle. I think both should’ve just referred to themselves as something really dangerous and menacing…like Black Adder 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2012, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/45 "2012-06-15T02:55:46Z")
Love him, or hate him, I believe he was responsible for bringing performance art into rock concerts; he inspired Alice Cooper and Kiss and the like. His alcoholism progressed as The Doors gained notoriety. I’m not defending him, but from most accounts he was a pretty decent, albeit maturely-stunted, individual most of the time. Over a five year period of fame and fortune he never bought a house, put down roots or did anything a normal adult would have done. But that was hardly the exception in the late 1960s. I don’t see how he’s significantly different than quite a few other “artists” from the era. ---
**Author:** ![Esox\_Lucius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@Esox\_Lucius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esox_Lucius)\ **Post date:** [June 17, 2012, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/46 "2012-06-17T20:35:34Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Yes, that would be a good image, if those were the right words. If it’s any consolation, those are similar to the words I always heard. But they’re not the right words… Thanks for the thorough correction, disappointing as it is. I guess every writer needs an editor. Now I suppose you’ll tell me that “_Slow walkin’ Walter, fire engine guy_” aren’t the lyrics to the iconic Deep Purple song (called Smoke On The Water for some reason). (Heard that on a phone-in radio show asking for listeners’ incorrectly heard lyrics.) ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/47 "2012-06-18T14:31:35Z")
The Doors as a whole were hit and miss. Some of Robby Krieger’s guitar work is very memorable. If you can get into or get around the lyrics to L.A. Woman, his playing there is easily the match for most of his contemporaries. But, the records of theirs that I bought in my teens don’t get pulled out very often. If they come on the radio, it depends on my mood (and the song) if I change the station or not. My gauge on Mr. Morrison in particular, before reading what he said about the Lizard King line above, was the same thing I’ll say about Glen Danzig: I can’t take him seriously, because he does. But then again, I thought he bought into his own mystique. After reading what he said about the Lizard King line, I may have to reconsider a little. If he didn’t take himself so seriously, then I guess he’s no worse than 1/2 the over-dramatic singers from the era. **TreacherousCretin** , do you know where you read/saw that? Either way, I was given a collection of his poems as a present when I was 16. He was a poet, but not one anyone would have published if he hadn’t been the singer for the Doors. For instance, he’s the type who would put Oedipal references into his poems to emphasize how deep his teen angst was. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [June 18, 2012, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/48 "2012-06-18T18:57:37Z")
> [@scabpicker](#): > > **TreacherousCretin** , do you know where you read/saw that? No, unfortunately. It was an interview in a magazine, but would have been at least 35 years ago. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2012, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571/49 "2012-06-20T06:21:01Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > My take is that Morrison was just trying to be shocking. I thought that the referenced part of The End was a jokey reference to Freud. I’d say Lenny Bruce was trying to be shocking. Jim Morrison just aimed for trippiness. Pseudo intellectual- but in a good way! 😃 Yes I like the Doors _and_ the Sex Pistols. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-oediphus-complex/624571.md?page=2)