# Jim Morrison of the DOORS is alive truly having faked his death in 1971 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 30, 2011, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478 "2011-01-30T03:07:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/21 "2011-01-30T04:01:29Z")
If it is, in fact, so easy to shed some light on this through a DNA test-- and it hasn’t been done-- why isn’t it done? Probably because it’s not true at all. I agree with what’s written above. Jim Morrison was way too stoned to NOT die soon after. And he would need help filling out the name change documents with the acid abuse. I doubt “Bill Loyer” would be his choice as an anonymous. A name something more like Mr. Rainbow Funky would make me believe it a little more. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/22 "2011-01-30T04:08:49Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > Glad to see that there are still good drugs available. Yeah, they make your brain squirm like a toad. ---
**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/23 "2011-01-30T04:09:01Z")
Mr. Rainbow Funky would be bad trade craft and it would give him away to the US Secret Police, which he was obviously so terrified of that he moved back to Oregon to hide from them. You don’t need a passport in Oregon, and while I think they take US currency there, as long as you can learn the language you can really blend in away from the long arm of the US. That’s why he decided not to stay in Europe…and that’s why he wouldn’t choose a name like Mr. Rainbow Funky. You see, it all circles back. Circular. Feel the energy. The ball WANTS to be in the hole…it’s natural place is in the hole. Take it home, Jimmy… -XT ---
**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/24 "2011-01-30T04:10:56Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Mummies, not zombies. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/25 "2011-01-30T04:14:04Z")
William Loyer is an anagram for Wily Mole Lair. Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/26 "2011-01-30T04:14:08Z")
> [@Snowboarder\_Bo](#): > > :smack: Don’t worry about it. They’re practically the same thing right? ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/27 "2011-01-30T04:20:10Z")
Not only that, an anagram of Mr. Funky Rainbow is Barf In Wonky Rum. Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as Mr. Mojo Risin’. ---
**Author:** ![Girl\_From\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/3da27b/32.png) [@Girl\_From\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Girl_From_Mars)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/28 "2011-01-30T04:38:45Z")
Oh good. I actually have a freshly popped bowl of popcorn right here! ---
**Author:** ![thirdname](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@thirdname](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdname)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/29 "2011-01-30T04:41:56Z")
Does he keep in touch with Tupac and Elvis? ---
**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/30 "2011-01-30T04:43:50Z")
> [@cochrane](#): > > Not only that, an anagram of Mr. Funky Rainbow is Barf In Wonky Rum. Doesn’t quite have the same ring to it as Mr. Mojo Risin’. > [@xtisme](#): > > Mr. Rainbow Funky would be bad trade craft and it would give him away to the US Secret Police, which he was obviously so terrified of that he moved back to Oregon to hide from them. You don’t need a passport in Oregon, and while I think they take US currency there, as long as you can learn the language you can really blend in away from the long arm of the US. That’s why he decided not to stay in Europe…and that’s why he wouldn’t choose a name like Mr. Rainbow Funky. You see, it all circles back. Circular. Feel the energy. The ball WANTS to be in the hole…it’s natural place is in the hole. > > Take it home, Jimmy… > > -XT HA! Good ones, both! Mr. M. Rizin would make more sense. OTOH, Bill Loyer sounds like Bill LAWYER! That would be a good name for someone who wants to be left alone. Who wants to hang with a bill lawyer? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/31 "2011-01-30T04:53:49Z")
Actually, what really happened was that he dared to go down to the end of the town without consulting me. Pure disobedience. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/32 "2011-01-30T04:57:00Z")
Stephen King, in the expanded edition of _The Stand_, has his well-grounded, solid-as-a-rock character Stu Redman say he saw Jim Morrison pass through town just a few years before, and was astonished to recognize the long-thought-dead Doors singer as he filled up at the gas station where Stu worked. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/33 "2011-01-30T05:19:18Z")
Had a look around. It seems this **JLizard** guy is the only person championing this idea. He has a [video on YouTube](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYFKVzDLU3s) that is questionable at best in its claims. Not that it matters to anyone if he’s alive, if he isn’t making music. ---
**Author:** ![wedgehed](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/8edcca/32.png) [@wedgehed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wedgehed)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/34 "2011-01-30T05:19:38Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Stephen King, in the expanded edition of _The Stand_, has his well-grounded, solid-as-a-rock character Stu Redman say he saw Jim Morrison pass through town just a few years before, and was astonished to recognize the long-thought-dead Doors singer as he filled up at the gas station where Stu worked. Who did Stu see in the original unexpanded, un-updated version? ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/35 "2011-01-30T05:49:49Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Stephen King, in the expanded edition of _The Stand_, has his well-grounded, solid-as-a-rock character Stu Redman say he saw Jim Morrison pass through town just a few years before, and was astonished to recognize the long-thought-dead Doors singer as he filled up at the gas station where Stu worked. Maybe he actually saw Val Kilmer? ---
**Author:** ![Rain\_Soaked](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e19adc/32.png) [@Rain\_Soaked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rain_Soaked)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/36 "2011-01-30T05:56:35Z")
> [@xtisme](#): > > Well, if she is his wife and if she is a medical doctor, does she have conclusive DNA evidence? Shouldn’t be too hard to get a sample for him and have it checked out, right? I assume the answer is ‘no’, since if she in fact HAD that evidence and wanted it to become public, she wouldn’t be writing to the Doors (as if they would have the final say, even assuming they want to ensure no one knows this sooper sekrit information), she’d be going public with her evidence and doing the talk show circuit. > > That’s pretty much where these types of CTs always fail…there is no actual evidence, despite the fact that if it were true it would be easy enough to get that evidence. The lady is married to him so he’s probably willing to give her a DNA sample about as often as she would let him. > > -XT No factual evidence? Did you read the post? He said: “A video with Bill Loyer’s voice and film footage was circulated and dozens sold on ebay- customer’s paying $24 for a VHS video- and not a one of them left negative or even neutral feedback.” Not one of them left negative or even neutral feedback! If that isn’t Q.E.D. I don’t know what is. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![oliversarmy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/eb8c5e/32.png) [@oliversarmy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oliversarmy)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/37 "2011-01-30T07:12:50Z")
If indeed this marginally talented lounge singer were still alive, why would anyone care? ---
**Author:** ![fumster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e9c0ed/32.png) [@fumster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fumster)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 7:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/38 "2011-01-30T07:13:45Z")
> [@Claverhouse](#): > > Doctor Who signed the death certificate ? We won’t be fooled again. ---
**Author:** ![user\_hostile](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/user_hostile/32/474_2.png) [@user\_hostile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/user_hostile)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/39 "2011-01-30T07:18:11Z")
What about Jimmy’s birth certificate? How do we know that Jimmy is really Jimmy? These questions and others are answered in my new book: _Flying Saucers: Can they cure Herpes?_ ---
**Author:** ![pepperlandgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/f17d59/32.png) [@pepperlandgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pepperlandgirl)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2011, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478/40 "2011-01-30T07:38:21Z")
> [@Wile\_E](#): > > And he’s not even a real doctor! > > Haven’t we seen this same OP here before? Oh good, I’m not crazy. I was very disturbed when the whole thing seemed very, very familiar. So if I have everything straight, Doctor Who signed Jim Morrison’s birth certificate and then used the TARDIS to take him to Texas where he bought gas disguised as Val Kilmer? How does Bill Loyer fit into all of this? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-of-the-doors-is-alive-truly-having-faked-his-death-in-1971/569478.md?page=3)