# Jim Morrison..THE golden child **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 6, 2013, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457 "2013-02-06T04:46:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/21 "2013-02-06T17:51:01Z")
Is he more wonderful than James Otto? :):)🙂 ---
**Author:** ![TreacherousCretin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/treacherouscretin/32/476_2.png) [@TreacherousCretin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TreacherousCretin)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/22 "2013-02-06T19:00:22Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > Few more, then I’m off to bed. > > [Peace Frog](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X34JarNjoIU) > [Soul Kitchen](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxizIrbcSuU) > > One more? > [Tell All The People](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NC3pcDyn1M) One too many. Robby wrote “Tell All The People” ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/23 "2013-02-06T21:03:00Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > What about that time he broke on through to the other side, like Kool-Aid Man? Oh YEAH!!! ---
**Author:** ![Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Nunzio\_Tavulari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nunzio_Tavulari)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/24 "2013-02-06T21:10:43Z")
> [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Is he more wonderful than James Otto? :):)🙂 James Otto loved his mother. Morrison only sang about it. Bless James Otto and you for mentioning him. ---
**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/25 "2013-02-06T22:02:17Z")
_“Pamela Morrison, who said, ‘God, Jim, you smell- would it KILL you to take a bath?’… never got a dinner.”_ - Red Buttons ---
**Author:** ![Nonsuch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nonsuch/32/2922_2.png) [@Nonsuch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nonsuch)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2013, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/26 "2013-02-06T22:32:32Z")
In my mind, I have a short list of the events I would like to see if I were granted the power to go back in time. And on that list, amid the trial of Joan of Arc, the Battle of Stamford Bridge and the Beatles’ gig at Litherland Town Hall, is the incident when Janis Joplin cracked a drunken Jim Morrison across the skull with a whiskey bottle. That sums up my feelings for the Lizard King (and confirms Janis’ overall awesomeness into the bargain). ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/27 "2013-02-07T00:10:56Z")
Thread shat already? Check. Thread moved to a forum where one doesn’t need to be a 60-yr-old fangurl to post? Check. In college I was a poetry editor for a campus literary magazine so I read a lot of poetry by sophomores and realized that the term is quite literal. Morrison’s poetry was sophomoric. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/28 "2013-02-07T01:35:38Z")
> [@TreacherousCretin](#): > > One too many. Robby wrote “Tell All The People” I’ve never been one of those “OMG JIM MORRISON!1!!” people. When I hear his name, I just associate it with the Doors. I couldn’t tell you who wrote what. But I do love The Doors (and Jim’s voice). ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/29 "2013-02-07T01:55:14Z")
> [@Tollhouse](#): > > just a random observation > > who can argue about the wonderfulness of Jim Morrison…all six feet of black Irish wonderfulness of wonderfulness > > oh yea did I say how wonderful he was/is? > > baritone voice that makes me melt like an ice cube > eyes you can go swimming in > ok, dont want to make anyone too sick with my adolescent pinings, but just saying…😃 Are you really trying to have a serious thread about this guy with that OP? He was positioned as the Justin Bieber of his day on Tiger Beat, and he fuckin’ hated it. I have stated many times that the Doors made some good songs that have and will stand the test of time, but a lot of crap, too. Regardless, Morrison came across as a pretentious douchebag, illustrative of everything that can go wrong with rock n’ roll. ---
**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/30 "2013-02-07T02:17:12Z")
> [@WordMan](#): > > A He was positioned as the Justin Bieber of his day on Tiger Beat, and he fuckin’ hated it. > … > Morrison came across as a pretentious douchebag, illustrative of everything that can go wrong with rock n’ roll. Dont you think these two were related? As in, he did want to be a poet and was hoping people will like his poetry. However, he may have not seen it right away, but people (women) started to like him more than his poetry. For a decent person that would be quite a shocking realization. I think there’s a scene in Stone’s movie where he actually mocks the audience, touches himself and saying: “Is this what you came for?” And, the recent documentary “When you’re a strange” paints a somewhat different picture at a personal level than what I’m reading so far. ---
**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/31 "2013-02-07T02:37:49Z")
Word man It was not a life or death topic, this is just a thread about my admiration of the man.if you read my other input here, I alluded to his creative talent , intellgience etc, and how he defnately did NOT want to be a Justin Bieber type. He was a true artist who became unhappy and disillusioned with performing on some levels, he also wanted more creative freedom to arrange the albums how he envisioned them, but elektra had more say in that then he wanted. I started out the op that way, I guess i got carried away as i thought about his dark brown curls and those deep eyes, ok, slapping myself to get back to topic, sorry I couldn’t help myself, :D, first and foremost I take him seriously for what he did, that’s not exclusive to my very objective findings that Morrison was created on one of Gods truly good days, he was verrrry easy in the eyes… He wasn’t perfect but I disagree completely that he was pretentious, I think he was very deep and felt things on a level many people don’t, even if he didnt have dark brown curls or deep eyes or any of that, i would still not see that he was pretentious. In some ways I feel like he was actually insecure ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/32 "2013-02-07T02:50:14Z")
There’s no such thing as black Irish, unless you’re talking about Phil Lynott. ---
**Author:** ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/33 "2013-02-07T03:09:35Z")
> [@Tollhouse](#): > > Word man > > It was not a life or death topic, this is just a thread about my admiration of the man.if you read my other input here, I alluded to his creative talent , intellgience etc, and how he defnately did NOT want to be a Justin Bieber type. He was a true artist who became unhappy and disillusioned with performing on some levels, he also wanted more creative freedom to arrange the albums how he envisioned them, but elektra had more say in that then he wanted. > I started out the op that way, I guess i got carried away as i thought about his dark brown curls and those deep eyes, ok, slapping myself to get back to topic, sorry I couldn’t help myself, :D, first and foremost I take him seriously for what he did, that’s not exclusive to my very objective findings that Morrison was created on one of Gods truly good days, he was verrrry easy in the eyes… > > He wasn’t perfect but I disagree completely that he was pretentious, I think he was very deep and felt things on a level many people don’t, even if he didnt have dark brown curls or deep eyes or any of that, i would still not see that he was pretentious. In some ways I feel like he was actually insecure I think you are focused on this concept you have of a “golden child.” Morrison was an admiral’s son with issues, a decent baritone and a penchant for immature danger and cruelty, with limited craft, at best. If that fits your golden child persona, enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 3:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/34 "2013-02-07T03:30:20Z")
Word man,…enjoy I will 🙂 Sounds like you and I have differing beliefs about the man ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/35 "2013-02-07T03:50:19Z")
Tollhouse, if you don’t mind me asking, how old are you? My guess is that you’re younger than 27. I also guess that you’re older than 16. Let’s split the difference and guess that you’re 21. How’d I do? ---
**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/36 "2013-02-07T04:14:17Z")
Leaden I am 83 :eek: Seriously though, not sure what my age has to do with Jim being talented…I remember my moms friend always had a thing for Elvis. If someone brought him up, she would swoon… ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/37 "2013-02-07T05:03:55Z")
> [@Tollhouse](#): > > I am 83 :eek: Then he’s too young for you, you cradle robber. Or he would be, if he weren’t too dead for you. ---
**Author:** ![Tollhouse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e99b99/32.png) [@Tollhouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tollhouse)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/38 "2013-02-07T05:49:52Z")
Just my luck, they are always either too something for me…too rich, too poor, too young, too dead…sigh…damm… ---
**Author:** ![Ambivalid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a5b964/32.png) [@Ambivalid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ambivalid)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/39 "2013-02-07T06:41:36Z")
> [@Tollhouse](#): > > all six feet of black Irish Am I missing something here? WhachutalkinboutWillis? 😕 ---
**Author:** ![Beastly\_Rotter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@Beastly\_Rotter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beastly_Rotter)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2013, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457/40 "2013-02-07T07:19:41Z")
> [@Ambivalid](#): > > Am I missing something here? WhachutalkinboutWillis? 😕 It’s a pretty old-fashioned term, but dark-complexioned, dark haired, dark eyed Irish people were sometimes referred to as “Black Irish”: [Colin Farrell](http://cdn04.cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/farrell-baby/colin-farrell-baby-number-2-01.jpg) would be a pretty good example. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-morrison-the-golden-child/649457.md?page=3)