# Jim Rosen's Classified Information - Wealth Building System **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [December 31, 2004, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399 "2004-12-31T08:54:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![rayray5884](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/57b2e6/32.png) [@rayray5884](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayray5884)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 8:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/1 "2004-12-31T08:54:56Z")
As I sat here daydreaming about making the kind of money that this half hour infomercial was taling about I decided to search around the internet for some information on the system. I’m very skeptical about all these systems but figured I’d check out what the buzz was online. I googled the system and found next to nothing. Nearly every site was an ad to sell the system but none were actual reviews or comments regarding the system. So the questions I have are these. Is there no information on this system online because no one is really buying it? If people are buying it why aren’t they talking about the good and bad of this system online? I searched several search engines, the straight dope message board and even google groups. Of all the searches I think I found 1-2 sites that had a little blurb about the system but that’s it. If you have any information to share on the system or if you know why I can’t find any information on this system let me know! Thanks in advance! ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/2 "2004-12-31T09:21:23Z")
[Jim Rosen It Looks Like a Bait and Switch, But You Got Your Money’s Worth](http://www.thinktec.com/jim_rosen/baitandswitch.html) [Google™ cache of a Rosen message board segment (I just wonder why the original is gone)](http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:aYOSEbbSzM0J:www.thecomplaintstation.com/cgi-bin/datacgi/database.cgi%3Ffile%3DForum%26report%3DSubtopic%26SubtopicID%3D00042401%26firstrecord%3D0%26finalrecord%3D14+Jim+Rosen%27s+Classified+Information+scam&hl=en) ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 9:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/3 "2004-12-31T09:22:36Z")
(Search argument: “Jim Rosen Classified Information scam”) ---
**Author:** ![SavageNarce](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@SavageNarce](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SavageNarce)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/4 "2004-12-31T13:20:39Z")
Check out [www.jimrosensucks.com](http://www.jimrosensucks.com/) . ---
**Author:** ![aahala](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/a88e4f/32.png) [@aahala](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aahala)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/5 "2004-12-31T14:51:10Z")
The wealth building plan seems to work like this. You send him your wealth, he builds it. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/6 "2004-12-31T16:07:19Z")
General rule of thumb: when anyone says “here is a way to make money”, ask “then why aren’t they using it instead of selling it?” ---
**Author:** ![TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tellmei_mnotcrazy/32/3419_2.png) [@TellMeI\_mNotCrazy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TellMeI_mNotCrazy)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/7 "2004-12-31T21:14:06Z")
> [@SavageNarce](#): > > Check out [www.jimrosensucks.com](http://www.jimrosensucks.com/) . What sucks is the website is so horrible to look and it and frustratingly distracting. ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [December 31, 2004, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/8 "2004-12-31T21:49:15Z")
> [@Lumpy](#): > > General rule of thumb: when anyone says “here is a way to make money”, ask “then why aren’t they using it instead of selling it?” Because him telling you necessarily means that it won’t work for him anymore. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![spingears](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@spingears](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spingears)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/9 "2005-01-01T19:40:15Z")
Anthing advertised in Informercials or Sold on TV is almost always over priced, carries a high Shipping, Handling, Insurance, &/or Taxes surcharge. You buy the product, use it a few times and eventually end up putting it on the top shelf or in the garage and forget it. Get Rich Schems are for the unwary and credulus. Few if any can make a break-even income with them. The seller is the one getting the mult-digit income, not the poor sap the buys into the speil. He is also usually to embarrased to complain that he had been ‘taken.’ **Caveat Emptor!** ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/10 "2005-01-01T20:19:38Z")
> [@spingears](#): > > Anthing advertised in Informercials or Sold on TV is almost always over priced, carries a high Shipping, Handling, Insurance, &/or Taxes surcharge. You buy the product, use it a few times and eventually end up putting it on the top shelf or in the garage and forget it. > > \*\*[/SIZE] Hey now! I have a spiffy keen black item that folds from attache case-sized device to 5-sided, 2-wheel cart complete with spiffy keen collapsable handle. I only paid $25 for the thing with shipping and handling, and I use it every day to lug my papers and laptop to and from my car and job every day. ---
**Author:** ![Chairman\_Pow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/838e76/32.png) [@Chairman\_Pow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chairman_Pow)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/11 "2005-01-01T20:40:12Z")
> [@Jonathan Woodall](#): > > Hey now! > I have a spiffy keen black item that folds from attache case-sized device to 5-sided, 2-wheel cart complete with spiffy keen collapsable handle. > I only paid $25 for the thing with shipping and handling, and I use it every day to lug my papers and laptop to and from my car and job every day. You’ll note that he said, “almost everything.” ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Slant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c57346/32.png) [@Mr.Slant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Slant)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/12 "2005-01-02T00:51:48Z")
My bad. I suppose the degree to which things on infomercials are rip-offs is proportional to the price. And things where they don’t MENTION the price in the infomercials are probably all rip-offs, with the arguable exception of a certain Bose product. ---
**Author:** ![Lumpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lumpy/32/446_2.png) [@Lumpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lumpy)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/13 "2005-01-02T16:29:44Z")
Also, beware when the commercial shows someone counting a big wad of bills to illustrate how much money you’ll make. ---
**Author:** ![anson2995](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c77e96/32.png) [@anson2995](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anson2995)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/jim-rosens-classified-information-wealth-building-system/282399/14 "2005-01-02T18:05:41Z")
The whole “start your own buisness” industry is based on selling two false premises: 1) that running a small business is an easy way to make money, and 2) that all you need is a good idea to be succesful. The reality is that hundreds of good models exist for small businesses that a person can start. They are proven, tested, and all around you. The simplest of them can fail and the riskiest of them can succeed. It’s not the idea but the skill and effort of the person that determiens how far it goes. Running your own business is incredibly hard work. Sure, you are your own boss, but that means _more_ responsibility, not less. I spent eight years working for a fortune 500 company before leaving to work for myself. I work more hours, sometimes for less money, and don’t get perks like paid vacation or health insurance. _Everyone_ who offers to tell you a way to make money is just trying to get some out of your pocket.